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Post by Gene on Dec 5, 2016 14:21:17 GMT -5
You're better than this, Brett Ewins. Get it together.  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2016 13:24:14 GMT -5
Some of these panels are just too...painful.
I wonder why publishers accept this sub-standard work?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2016 13:46:20 GMT -5
From Kitty Pryde & Wolverine 1984 mini-series, this awful rendering (penciled & inked) by Al Milgrom is from issue #1. Pick any panel from this page as an example for the "WORST" pick!
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Post by The Captain on Dec 6, 2016 13:52:15 GMT -5
From Kitty Pryde & Wolverine 1984 mini-series, this awful rendering (penciled & inked) by Al Milgrom is from issue #1. Pick any panel from this page as an example for the "WORST" pick! (Broken image link).What the hell is going on with Kitty's face in the middle panel on the bottom? Where did her entire bottom lip go, and how is she making those wrinkles on her chin? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2016 13:53:35 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2016 13:54:38 GMT -5
From Kitty Pryde & Wolverine 1984 mini-series, this awful rendering (penciled & inked) by Al Milgrom is from issue #1. Pick any panel from this page as an example for the "WORST" pick! (Broken image link).What the hell is going on with Kitty's face in the middle panel on the bottom? Where did her entire bottom lip go, and how is she making those wrinkles on her chin? Is she biting the bottom of her lip? Maybe? |
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Post by The Captain on Dec 6, 2016 14:00:54 GMT -5
What the hell is going on with Kitty's face in the middle panel on the bottom? Where did her entire bottom lip go, and how is she making those wrinkles on her chin? Is she biting the bottom of her lip? Maybe? That's what it looks like Milgrom is going for, but most people don't try to swallow their bottom lip when biting it. She has the entire thing in her mouth, which I've been trying to replicate as I sit here and I just can't do it. Anatomically, it seems pretty odd. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2016 14:04:29 GMT -5
Is she biting the bottom of her lip? Maybe? That's what it looks like Milgrom is going for, but most people don't try to swallow their bottom lip when biting it. She has the entire thing in her mouth, which I've been trying to replicate as I sit here and I just can't do it. Anatomically, it seems pretty odd. Yeah. It is pretry bad. I think that's what she is doing because it would fit with the dialogue in the panel. |
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Post by Prince Hal on Dec 6, 2016 14:21:40 GMT -5
Some of these panels are just too...painful. I wonder why publishers accept this sub-standard work? I've asked myself the same question a million times, jez. Guess number one: People buy it. As an old Irishman once said, "If they're buyin' the shite yer sellin', ya don't have to make it better, ya just haveta give 'em more..." |
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 6, 2016 14:28:42 GMT -5
Also, deadlines. When they are up against it, fast and crap beats slow and pretty.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2016 15:19:55 GMT -5
Here is some more Milgrom crapolla from the Kitty Pryde & Wolverine mini-series. Please feel free to enjoy this childlike scrawl of a Wolverine fight sequence...
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Post by The Captain on Dec 6, 2016 16:54:22 GMT -5
Here is some more Milgrom crapolla from the Kitty Pryde & Wolverine mini-series. Please feel free to enjoy this childlike scrawl of a Wolverine fight sequence... (Broken image link).In Milgrom's defense, it is a comic about mutants, so it is entirely possible that they are fighting in front of a gigantic baby blue wall while floating in mid-air. |
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Post by Confessor on Dec 7, 2016 7:37:48 GMT -5
Here is some more Milgrom crapolla from the Kitty Pryde & Wolverine mini-series. Please feel free to enjoy this childlike scrawl of a Wolverine fight sequence... (Broken image link).What's with all the Milgrom hate? Admittedly, that first example with Kitty Pryde is not fantastic, but it's not that bad either. As for the above Wolverine fight, I think it looks perfectly fine. The figures themselves and the fight scene depicted look well executed and the lack of background is a stylistic choice designed to focus the reader's attention on the action. You see this kind of removal of backgrounds in a fight sequence consisting of identical sized panels fairly often in Bronze Age comics. I guess I'm just not seeing what's so bad about these examples. I also think Al Milgrom is a much better artist than most people give him credit for. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2016 9:04:01 GMT -5
That last panel has a George Tuska-ish feel to it - particularly Thor's face. Can't say it's my favourite art ever, but compared to some of the abominations published earlier...? |
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Post by The Captain on Dec 7, 2016 9:17:29 GMT -5
Here is some more Milgrom crapolla from the Kitty Pryde & Wolverine mini-series. Please feel free to enjoy this childlike scrawl of a Wolverine fight sequence... (Broken image link).What's with all the Milgrom hate? Admittedly, that first example with Kitty Pryde is not fantastic, but it's not that bad either. As for the above Wolverine fight, I think it looks perfectly fine. The figures themselves and the fight scene depicted look well executed and the lack of background is a stylistic choice designed to focus the reader's attention on the action. You see this kind of removal of backgrounds in a fight sequence consisting of identical sized panels fairly often in Bronze Age comics. I guess I'm just not seeing what's so bad about these examples. I also think Al Milgrom is a much better artist than most people give him credit for. The three panels on the left aren't bad, as they are in close-up, so the lack of background is acceptable. For the three panels on the right, there's so much wasted space that the lack of background is too noticeable. As well, there's no floor, which would help provide some sense of perspective and would ground the art in reality, whereas this is just two guys floating in a panel. |
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