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Post by hondobrode on Dec 14, 2015 23:00:58 GMT -5
I'm waiting to do the same thing with Overture when Comixology puts it on sale.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2015 2:25:25 GMT -5
Apparently it was the #1 selling comic in November 2015, with sales estimated at
440,234 copies
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2015 2:42:08 GMT -5
Apparently it was the #1 selling comic in November 2015, with sales estimated at
440,234 copiesAnecdotally speaking, I've talked to 4 shop owners in the area. All 4 have sold out of the variants they upped their orders to qualify for, so they made their money back, but none of them have even sold a third of the actual copies of regular version of the book they ordered in, and about 70% of the copies they moved the entire month were within the first week, so they don't think it will have legs and continue to sell long term. Batman (the new52 book) was the long term bestseller the last 3 years in all 4 shops in terms of pull list + shelf sales. In 2 of the shops they didn't even sell as many copies of DKIII #1 to end customers as they do the regular Batman book, and all 4 said if it weren't for the variants they would have only ordered about half of what they did, and still would have had too many copies for how it's actually selling to end customers in their shops. If it had been sold on a returnable basis, they would have returned about half to 2/3 of what they ordered as unsold, but Diamond is what it is and the numbers they throw out there are what they sell, not what retailers do. So good on DC have manipulating the market like the big 2 have to do now to get sales numbers, they're playing he game better now, but never mistake sales to retailers for actual end customers buying the book. Granted is a small sample, but it's consistent through all 4 shops. -M |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2015 13:40:21 GMT -5
The sample could be extended to my dealer, there was more interest in regular Batman than Dark Knight. He still has about 10 or so left but that will be stock for the new year.
If other dealers broke even with the variant, they could afford to sell regular copies below cover price and still not lose out.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Dec 18, 2015 20:29:35 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm shocked the market hasn't collapsed by now, too.
But, man, the next slight economic downturn and US comic shops are screwed, unless there are huge changes to their business model.
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Post by dupersuper on Dec 18, 2015 20:54:24 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure they're safe as long as the movies and TV shows (and video games and merchandise) keep making Disney and WB gazillions of dollars.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Dec 18, 2015 23:00:07 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure they're safe as long as the movies and TV shows (and video games and merchandise) keep making Disney and WB gazillions of dollars. DC and Marvel are safe, sure, but the mom and pop comic shops? Who knows. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2015 2:36:55 GMT -5
Ok from Brian Hibbs response to questions on his column, someone asked about % of sales being variants, and he said there's no way to know for certain, but...
and that on average he estimates that 10% of the copies ordered are variants, but that doesn't tell you how much a store bumped up an order to qualify for variants in most cases.
With DKIII though we know it required a 5K copy buy in to get a store exclusive variant, and there were 37 stores who did it-which means they ordered 5K copies of the regular cover before they order copies of the store exclusive variant or any other variant, those 37 stories accounted for 185K of the sales of the regular cover, plus however many of the store exclusive variant they ordered and any other variants they ordered at the 1:10, 1:25, 1:50, 1:100 etc. levels. And I would assume they mostly likely ordered 1000 copies of the store exclusive to go with the 5K they ordered of the regular copy otherwise what's the point of having sa stock of your own variant to sell that no one else does, giving us more the 200K of the copies sold for those stores-so you are looking at 37 accounts of the approximate 5000 Diamond accounts in the US accounting for nealry half of all the sales of DKIII #1.
-M
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2015 8:15:05 GMT -5
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Post by dupersuper on Dec 21, 2015 17:49:25 GMT -5
Does any one actually collect the variants? I just want the book. If I see more than 1 cover on the stands I'll grab the one I like the best. If I like the others I'll look up pics online later.
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Dec 21, 2015 20:21:38 GMT -5
Maybe so, but I suspect he's still interested in comic books and its craft, while I'm pretty confident that Stan Lee hasn't been interested in those for a good 20 years. I mihgt be wrong, But it's obvious Miller was/is passionate about the artform, when it mostly seemed to always be a job for Stan Lee, which makes me wanna listen to Miller a little more  |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Dec 21, 2015 22:20:51 GMT -5
Maybe so, but I suspect he's still interested in comic books and its craft, while I'm pretty confident that Stan Lee hasn't been interested in those for a good 20 years. I mihgt be wrong, But it's obvious Miller was/is passionate about the artform, when it mostly seemed to always be a job for Stan Lee, which makes me wanna listen to Miller a little more Nah, that's not true. Stan's actually been REALLY creatively active in comics lately - much moreso than Miller, who seems to be concentrating on film. He did a Manga series, a whole line of comics for Boom! He seems sick to death of talking about work he did 40-50 years ago, though. |
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Dec 21, 2015 22:45:34 GMT -5
Maybe so, but I suspect he's still interested in comic books and its craft, while I'm pretty confident that Stan Lee hasn't been interested in those for a good 20 years. I mihgt be wrong, But it's obvious Miller was/is passionate about the artform, when it mostly seemed to always be a job for Stan Lee, which makes me wanna listen to Miller a little more Nah, that's not true. Stan's actually been REALLY creatively active in comics lately - much moreso than Miller, who seems to be concentrating on film. He did a Manga series, a whole line of comics for Boom! He seems sick to death of talking about work he did 40-50 years ago, though. I'm aware he put his name on a manga series and a whole line with Boom, but he didn't write those, he basically licensed his name, which in my book is almost pure cynical business. He just seems to be only about money, or so it seems to me, but I might be off again. |
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