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Post by dbutler69 on Mar 1, 2024 16:01:21 GMT -5
I'm sure this is blasphemy, but I actually kind of liked the Cathy Lee Crosby Wonder Woman costume from the 1974 TV movie, especially as I've never been too crazy about her traditional costume (not that Lynda Carter didn't look great in it) though I do like the iteration of the costume with the skirt instead of the shorts. Anyway, my biggest complaint about this costume is that the boots should be red instead of blue. Why would you give blue boots when you've got the blue tights? Strange choice there. I'd also perhaps do something a bit different with that red jersey coat. I must've watched this dumb movie a thousand times as a kid. It was ALWAYS playing on some local station's "Sunday Afternoon Movie". Usually with Doc Savage as a double feature. I always hated her costume (mainly because it made NO effort to be comic accurate) but liked that Ricardo Montalban was in it. I also have distinct memories of Henrey Gibson (the head Nazi in Blues Brothers) in it, but it doesn't seem to be the case. You got to watch this AND Doc Savage? Sweet! I've been wanting to check out Doc Savage. You're right, they made no effort to make this costume comic book accurate and though I've said I like it, I do have to admit that the design is a head scratcher. It's so far off model that it's baffling, and it's not like women haven't been wearing skimpy outfits on TV by this time. And yes, Rocardo Montalban in anything is in makes it better. Speaking of which, I saw him in an episode of Wild Wild West a couple of weeks ago.
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Post by tarkintino on Mar 2, 2024 6:45:14 GMT -5
I do have to admit that the design is a head scratcher. It's so far off model that it's baffling, and it's not like women haven't been wearing skimpy outfits on TV by this time. The costume was likely the result of its "Diana Prince" influence (IOW, no star-spangled hotpants and a rope), and considering the sociopolitical environment of the period this TV movie was produced, it was a call out (in a slapped together, unthinking way) to the Women's Lib movement. Some comic book adaptations on TV and film in the years to follow would take their own, non-source traditional path and succeed, but they captured and refined the essence of the basic source material, instead of trying to turn a character into a hero from another genre, like the '74 Wonder Woman.
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Post by Rags on Mar 2, 2024 14:20:34 GMT -5
This is the rarest of The Warriors #1 comics, it's listed on the bay for a cool $5K
I was amazed to learn there are only an estimated 15-20 copies as it was a rare on-line exclusive and never sold in stores....I got one around 10 years ago, amazingly in NM and cost me $125, and this slabbed CGC9.8 (only one that exists) is the 2nd one I've seen in a decade. The other copy is somewhere in Australia....
50th Anniversary of the movie is coming up in 2029.....
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Post by codystarbuck on Mar 2, 2024 20:30:43 GMT -5
I'm sure this is blasphemy, but I actually kind of liked the Cathy Lee Crosby Wonder Woman costume from the 1974 TV movie, especially as I've never been too crazy about her traditional costume (not that Lynda Carter didn't look great in it) though I do like the iteration of the costume with the skirt instead of the shorts. Anyway, my biggest complaint about this costume is that the boots should be red instead of blue. Why would you give blue boots when you've got the blue tights? Strange choice there. I'd also perhaps do something a bit different with that red jersey coat. To make the legs look longer. Crosby was 5 ft 8, but they might have been trying to make her look even taller, for the whole Amazon thing. Carter was 5 ft 9, and seemed even taller (boot heels helped, as did the hair). I always felt it looked too much like a track suit, like she was just warming up and would take it off, for the real fight. They did a similar thing, with Adrianne Palicki, in the later WW tv pilot, though it looks like they rethought it and changed the boots to red. This was an early publicity shot...... but the clips I have seen of the pilot, look like this....... Later, in the third act, she turns up in this..... In a scene where she rips open a warehouse door, she is in that costume, but when the door rolls up, the boots have mi-height heels. Once she starts to walk in the warehouse, after an edit, she had the flat-heeled boots. It looks like they kept tweaking it through the shoot, based on feedback, with the intent of either CGI-ing the final suit over footage, or do reshoots for the action scenes. Ironically, in the Lynda Carter series, she normally had high heeled boots, unless there was a running scene and suddenly her boots had flat, cushioned soles. I didn't notice it, as a kid, but did on a bootleg VHS I had, as an adult. I later saw a similar thing, in the opening scenes of some Cynthia Rothrock movie, being shown on cable. She is supposed to be a cop, undercover, for mugging detail or something, dressed rather like a hooker, in tight miniskirt and heels. That is, until she throws a roundhouse kick to some scumbag, and is suddenly wearing a looser skirt and black tennis shoes, until she completes the kick and is back to high heels.
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Post by Calidore on Mar 3, 2024 0:01:40 GMT -5
I later saw a similar thing, in the opening scenes of some Cynthia Rothrock movie, being shown on cable. She is supposed to be a cop, undercover, for mugging detail or something, dressed rather like a hooker, in tight miniskirt and heels. That is, until she throws a roundhouse kick to some scumbag, and is suddenly wearing a looser skirt and black tennis shoes, until she completes the kick and is back to high heels. Stunt shoes! Awesome.
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Post by Rags on Mar 3, 2024 11:18:19 GMT -5
The cover by itself made this a must have lol.....can't stop smirking....
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Post by codystarbuck on Mar 3, 2024 12:25:39 GMT -5
I could make a joke about a ten gallon hat; but, I'll be good.
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 5, 2024 7:14:19 GMT -5
We had a small discussion ( not too in-depth) about Bendis in our last zoom meeting. I understand he's a polarizing figure , but the work he did on the Avengers made it very popular and saved the franchise. The series preceding his run was pretty lackluster. It's not you fathers Avengers, but things have to change.
There I said it.
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Post by kirby101 on Mar 5, 2024 9:47:36 GMT -5
With Bendis, I don't know if it's the stories or the heavily decompressed way he tells them that is controversial.
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Post by impulse on Mar 5, 2024 11:06:44 GMT -5
If you don't like talking heads, quippy "realistic" dialogue, and decompressed stories, you may struggle with Bendis. He also sometimes disregards established characterization.
I really enjoyed his Alias book. I enjoyed his Avengers at the time, but I wasn't an Avengers reader before, so not sure what he broke.
His characterizations of the X-MEN in AvX were not-insignificant factor in my dropping Marvel comics.
Mixed bag.
Also, I don't necessarily mind reading comics in a decompressed format per se, but at $4+ per 32 page issue, I started to mind the cost to time value ratio.
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Post by Confessor on Mar 5, 2024 11:29:38 GMT -5
I generally like Bendis' writing, with his work on Alias/The Pulse/Jessica Jones being my fravourite stuff of his. I also enjoyed his writing on New Avengers, House of M, Secret War, and Secret Invasion, but have not really re-visited those since I initially read them.
I can definitely see that his stylistic quirks would be off-putting to some though.
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Post by sunofdarkchild on Mar 5, 2024 15:59:01 GMT -5
Bendis is a case where his early work is far superior to his later work. Ultimate Spider-Man, Alias, Daredevil, are all truly elite runs. He tried with those street-level heroes in the 2000s. His work with teams and 'god-level' heroes has been more hit or miss, which has greatly affected the quality of his output since 2010 since he's tended to be on the latter kind of books at Marvel and DC. A lot of his runs started out strong but then fizzled out. His X-Men run was like that. It was pretty good until the Battle of the Atom event and never became consistently good again after that. But he wrote a great Magik so I give him a lot of leeway there. His Superman run started out with a lot of promise, but the decision to age Jon was kind of the death knell for it.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Mar 5, 2024 16:39:20 GMT -5
We had a small discussion ( not too in-depth) about Bendis in our last zoom meeting. I understand he's a polarizing figure , but the work he did on the Avengers made it very popular and saved the franchise. The series preceding his run was pretty lackluster. It's not you fathers Avengers, but things have to change. There I said it. Bendis is a decent writer.. he just can only write one character. Powers is good. Ultimate Spidey is great. That's the character he can write. His Avengers would have been better if the same story wasn't pasted onto existing characters with personalities that were not the character he writes. Sadly, it started a trend to do so that has continued since.
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 5, 2024 16:50:25 GMT -5
We had a small discussion ( not too in-depth) about Bendis in our last zoom meeting. I understand he's a polarizing figure , but the work he did on the Avengers made it very popular and saved the franchise. The series preceding his run was pretty lackluster. It's not you fathers Avengers, but things have to change. There I said it. Bendis is a decent writer.. he just can only write one character. Powers is good. Ultimate Spidey is great. That's the character he can write. His Avengers would have been better if the same story wasn't pasted onto existing characters with personalities that were not the character he writes. Sadly, it started a trend to do so that has continued since. Bendis’ team books suffered from what some TV shows suffered from. Everyone had a quick wit. That’s not true in real life. I remember watching the “House “ TV show, every one was quick with a comeback. It got tiring after a while. Some people are quick and many are not.
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Post by Prince Hal on Mar 5, 2024 18:00:13 GMT -5
Bendis is a decent writer.. he just can only write one character. Powers is good. Ultimate Spidey is great. That's the character he can write. His Avengers would have been better if the same story wasn't pasted onto existing characters with personalities that were not the character he writes. Sadly, it started a trend to do so that has continued since. Bendis’ team books suffered from what some TV shows suffered from. Everyone had a quick wit. That’s not true in real life. I remember watching the “House “ TV show, every one was quick with a comeback. It got tiring after a while. Some people are quick and many are not. YES! Ted Baxter was a great character on "MTM" because he never really had a comeback. Same with Mel Cooley on "The Dick Van Dyke Show," who occasionally smacked Buddy, but inevitably was topped by him immediately. The writers actually created relatively unique characters.
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