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Post by Reptisaurus! on Mar 10, 2018 18:52:06 GMT -5
Gene Colan's first run on Dr. Strange is the peak of American mainstream comic art.
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Post by rberman on Mar 10, 2018 19:29:29 GMT -5
Daredevil's costume should not cover his ears. Super-hearing is one of his main powers! Saying that he needs the extra ear protection because his ears are so sensitive is not a good excuse. If he's listening for something quiet (heartbeats are one of his specialties), he will definitely not want his ears obstructed. Also, it looks more like body paint than a hood when his ears are sticking off the side of his mask, as in this example by Frank Miller. ![](https://i.imgur.com/aWyvmpE.jpg?1) There, I said it. I can't see an earless DD costume that doesn't (A) look goofy or (B) spoil the devil motif. Artists thrive on challenge! I'm no artist, though. The "Dread Pirate Murdock" look he sported in his origin retelling (and the first season of the Netflix TV series) could have worked, but nope, they covered his ears then as well: ![](https://i.imgur.com/sX8Yfi4.jpg?1)
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Post by kirby101 on Mar 10, 2018 20:12:49 GMT -5
Gene Colan's first run on Dr. Strange is the peak of American mainstream comic art. So true. He reinvented the comic page and brought a new style of storytelling to comics. I think his innovations go under appreciated.
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Post by chaykinstevens on Mar 11, 2018 8:58:30 GMT -5
To me, SHIELD will forever stand for: Supreme Headquarters International Law Enforcement Division. Wouldn't that be SHILED?
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Post by codystarbuck on Mar 11, 2018 11:04:37 GMT -5
It's Supreme Headquarters International Espionage, Law Enforcement Division
The renaming was to eliminate the Cold War-era Espionage part; but, as Agent Ward said, the revamped versions "Sound like someone really wanted the name to spell out SHIELD." The original was a take-off on SHAEF, the Supreme Headquarters, Allied Expeditionary Force, aka Gen. Dwight Eisenhower's command, in WW2.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Mar 11, 2018 11:49:25 GMT -5
Ward's line was the best part of the TV show's first season!
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Post by tarkintino on Mar 11, 2018 16:26:00 GMT -5
The Invaders deserved a quality artist....not Frank Robbins. The Invaders is as close to that textbook case of a comic's cover art (on occasion with this series) being far above that of the interiors ss a title can get.
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Post by String on Mar 11, 2018 17:51:37 GMT -5
To me, SHIELD will forever stand for: Supreme Headquarters International Law Enforcement Division. Wouldn't that be SHILED? You see? They got me so messed up I can't even spell anymore!
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 11, 2018 18:15:30 GMT -5
I just finished reading Strikeforce Morituri 1-9. This is the best hidden treasure that I've read in years. I've had it for years and finally looked at it. Brent Anderson and Peter Gillis team up to produce an unpredictable series, I have to track down the other issues.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Mar 11, 2018 20:13:36 GMT -5
I just finished reading Strikeforce Morituri 1-9. This is the best hidden treasure that I've read in years. I've had it for years and finally looked at it. Brent Anderson and Peter Gillis team up to produce an unpredictable series, I have to track down the other issues. The first year of the run is truly stellar. Even with our being forewarned that the characters might not last long there were far more twists than in your average comic, and even with the loss of many favourites the book’s interest never suffered. It sort of petered out toward the end, though. The title really needed Gillis and Anderson.
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Post by codystarbuck on Mar 11, 2018 22:20:53 GMT -5
The Invaders deserved a quality artist....not Frank Robbins. The Invaders is as close to that textbook case of a comic's cover art (on occasion with this series) being far above that of the interiors ss a title can get. Gonna have to agree to strongly disagree on that one. Robbins was an excellent storyteller who had a feel for the period and made it look like something out of the Golden Age, while keeping it exciting and dynamic. His fluid, rubbery style made the characters come alive and the series pretty much goes downhill, visually, when he departed. His best work was when paired with Frank Springer. He also proved to be a damn good writer, on Batman, as well as his newspaper strip, Johnny Hazard. His style gave it a nice, pulpy feel that Golden Age Timely had, especially Alex Schomberg's covers (which largely inspired the series). His battle sequences with Captain America were some of the most dynamic, this side of Kirby and Namor and the Torch also shown well under his pencil. I do think his Captain America work in that series is a little wonky and doesn't work nearly as well; but, still had more personality than many of the artists who graced that work, post-Kirby. Robbins was the reason I read the series in the 70s and collected it, in college, in the 80s, when I found a comic shop.
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Post by tarkintino on Mar 12, 2018 16:15:56 GMT -5
The Invaders deserved a quality artist....not Frank Robbins. The Invaders is as close to that textbook case of a comic's cover art (on occasion with this series) being far above that of the interiors ss a title can get. Gonna have to agree to strongly disagree on that one. Robbins was an excellent storyteller who had a feel for the period and made it look like something out of the Golden Age, while keeping it exciting and dynamic. His fluid, rubbery style made the characters come alive and the series pretty much goes downhill, visually, when he departed. His best work was when paired with Frank Springer. He also proved to be a damn good writer, on Batman, as well as his newspaper strip, Johnny Hazard. His style gave it a nice, pulpy feel that Golden Age Timely had, especially Alex Schomberg's covers (which largely inspired the series). His battle sequences with Captain America were some of the most dynamic, this side of Kirby and Namor and the Torch also shown well under his pencil. I do think his Captain America work in that series is a little wonky and doesn't work nearly as well; but, still had more personality than many of the artists who graced that work, post-Kirby. Robbins was the reason I read the series in the 70s and collected it, in college, in the 80s, when I found a comic shop. The Golden Age also had artists with illustrations not as stiff and twisted as that of Robbins, including the talents leading each row of comparisons to Robbins (including one you mentioned). Using Namor and Bucky for comparison... ![](https://i.imgur.com/bsb4QPk.jpg?1) One can see the work of artists with (in some cases) very different styles, yet at the time of each cover and/or story, there was more artistic coherence than what Robbins typically delivered to The Invaders. Its not just a matter of certain artists' work "looking better", but each knew how to tell a story effectively--with dynamism and emotion, taking the story (and reader) from start to finish, sans the jarring, start and stop of Robbins' kind of work. NOTE: The Steranko section features Rick Jones from Captain America #111. I'm using the image of Jones, since it was established (early on) that Jones was a look-alike of Bucky, so the panel makes the cut. Regarding Robbins' work as a writer--that's not in question. I never had a problem with his fine DC stint as a writer.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 16:55:02 GMT -5
I am in the same boat as cody. I didn't like Robbins on his Capt American run but I thought he was a great fit on Invaders. His art style gave it a Golden Age look.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Mar 12, 2018 17:03:19 GMT -5
He never really worked for me on Invaders, but I really liked Robbins on the Shadow. Surprisingly great at mystery/noir.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 18:05:14 GMT -5
Thanks for finding this picture ... interesting to see this and the differences of artists ... tarkintino and I've didn't realize that until I saw this picture below. ![](https://i.imgur.com/bsb4QPk.jpg?1)
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