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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 8, 2018 8:55:58 GMT -5
The only one I could think of , off the top of my head, is the one you mentioned- Harley Quinn.
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Post by MDG on Oct 8, 2018 9:46:26 GMT -5
The only one I could think of , off the top of my head, is the one you mentioned- Harley Quinn. Also Catwoman and Poison Ivy, maybe
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Post by brutalis on Oct 8, 2018 10:00:50 GMT -5
Nebula for Marvel of late.
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Post by aquagoat on Oct 8, 2018 12:43:16 GMT -5
Catwoman is surely the most popular female super villain, and one of the most popular supervilllains male or female. She's one of the few villains to have a long-running comic of their own, and she got her own movie long before the Joker or Venom.
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Post by beccabear67 on Oct 8, 2018 13:22:03 GMT -5
Who is the most popular female villain ? Do you buy a comic that features a female villain because she's in that issue? I found I liked The Black Cat in Spider-Man, so her on a cover would make me want to read that issue. Then again I was more fanatical collecting every Man-Wolf appearance. Killer Frost in Firestorm was pretty 'cool' too, heh... I like Batman best when he functions as a detective, it make the stories and character more substantial.
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Post by chadwilliam on Oct 8, 2018 17:22:03 GMT -5
Adam West's Batman is the most accurate comic-to-screen transition ever - he is exactly like the Batman of the comics at the time the show was made.
Does anyone prefer those 60s Batman stories (which I found to be campy and downright daft) to, say, Joker's Five-Way Revenge or The Laughing Fish from the 70s?
Although I do collect 60s Batman it's my least favourite era...aliens, giant fish, Batman as King Kong, some midget moron called Gaggy...prefer the 70s and 80s (and beyond) by far.
There, I said it.
If you're comparing the worst of the 60's to the best of the 70's, then no, but I can think of any number of Batman stories from 1960-69 that I rank alongside those two Joker tales cited above. "The Fantastic Dr. No-Face", "Batman and Robin - Imposters!", "The False Face Society", "The Riddle-less Robberies of the Riddler", "Hunt for a Robin Killler", "Hunted or Haunted", "The Day Batman Sold Out", "The Crystal Ball That Betrayed Batman", "The Spark Spangled See Through Man", "Batman's Gangland Guardians" are but ten. I think overlooking those stories because the same decade produced some admittedly lousy stuff would be like dismissing O Neil/Adams/Englehart/Rogers' work because of David Reed's output during the same decade ("Where Were you the Night Batman Died" aside).
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Post by berkley on Oct 8, 2018 17:32:47 GMT -5
I don't know that I ever bought a comic because of the villain back in the day, off the top of my head. I might have done for Darkseid in the Legion if I hadn't already started reading the series because I liked Keith Giffen's artwork. Other favourite villains, like Dormammu or Umar or Hela, tended to be confined to the pages of the series they were mainly associated with, so I would already have been reading those books anyway.
At present, when some of my traditional favourites do appear in other series from time to time, I don't like the style of writing in general enough to take a chance an issue, as a rule. But if things were different, if I were less sceptical about the level of writing in general and how the individual characters are written in particular, I might conceivably try an issue just for the character, always depending on how the artwork looked as well as the writing.
As far female villains go, I'm trying to think of anyone besides Umar and Hela but no one is coming to mind at the moment.
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Post by MDG on Oct 9, 2018 8:29:09 GMT -5
There's nothing more liberating than a beat-to-hell comic--or better yet a stack of 'em. You can read 'em outside, or when you're eating, or if you're about to fall asleep and don't have to worry about "ruining them."
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Post by brutalis on Oct 9, 2018 8:42:26 GMT -5
There's nothing more liberating than a beat-to-hell comic--or better yet a stack of 'em. You can read 'em outside, or when you're eating, or if you're about to fall asleep and don't have to worry about "ruining them."
INDEEEEEEEED! I always have several stacks of such childhood joy for rainy days, summer afternoons after mowing the yard, in the car for when trapped somewhere at appointments and just around for bringing a smile to my face. This is the way ALL comics are meant to end up and NOT bagged, boarded away inside a plastic bag. Always read, showing the love on the outside cover and inside pages of the pleasure delivered over time. You should not have to worry about a thumb print or smudged cover or tiny rips decreasing the resale value. A comic books true value is in the reading and joy it provides EVERY time it is opened
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Oct 9, 2018 9:24:58 GMT -5
There's nothing more liberating than a beat-to-hell comic--or better yet a stack of 'em. You can read 'em outside, or when you're eating, or if you're about to fall asleep and don't have to worry about "ruining them."
I think that mentality comes for ya'll guys and gals that bought comics off spinner racks and read them, traded them with friends, etc. There were no mylar backer boards, and 3 mil polypropylene bags. Like my dad with his baseball cards. Kids put them in the bike spokes, traded them. No sleeves and binders. Where as me I fight the tendency since I started reading comics at the peak of their popularity, or at least exposure, in the 90's where collecting was the mentality. Every single comics I own I have read. But most of the stuff I bought off racks in relative NM condition I have a tendency to try and keep them that way. Now if I buy some GD or VG copy of some Giant Size, I am not as concerned with it.
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Post by badwolf on Oct 9, 2018 9:39:59 GMT -5
David Michelinie's original female Venom concept would've made for a far better character than the one we ended up with, and I say that as a fan of Mr. Brock. I don't see it but that brings an interesting question- Who is the most popular female villain ? Do you buy a comic that features a female villain because she's in that issue? I've bought comics because Poison Ivy or Cheetah were in them.
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 9, 2018 19:24:41 GMT -5
It made me a little sad when I read the Kree Skrull war ( Avengers 89-97) digitally in MU when I had the original in a long box upstairs...
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Post by EdoBosnar on Oct 10, 2018 4:05:35 GMT -5
Always good to have one of these, or 'reader' copies around when I've got something in mylar or slabbed altogether.
All of the actual comic books I own (which, admittedly, isn't much currently), as well as all of my trade collections and, indeed, books, are reader copies.
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 10, 2018 6:10:02 GMT -5
Well said.
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Post by tarkintino on Oct 12, 2018 3:04:57 GMT -5
You can't argue the problem with Burton's Batman is that it is Tim Burton's version of Batman - and then not admit that Christopher Nolan's version is equally a typical Nolan character. I can because Nolan's Batman followed the kind of development seen in various re-tellings of Bit was all of his Batman's origin that existed long before Nolan adapted it. In Burton's case, it was typical misfit character in Freakworld, which was Batman in name only, lacking anything that would tell anyone the layered "who and why" of Wayne and his other half.
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