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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 1, 2020 6:12:54 GMT -5
Out of the entire Ultraverse line, I think I only have the Mantra series left in my collection. I used to have the Ultraforce books and held them for the Perez artwork, but I eventually gave them away.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2020 7:48:54 GMT -5
Like any publisher Malibu/Ultraverse was a mixed bag.
In the early 90's I wasn't reading much DC or Marvel and the early Image stuff wasn't what I liked (I had left the X-Men behind and the Image team books read too much like the X-Men). Valiant and Malibu were what I was buying the most of at that time. Valiant should have done their crossover with Malibu instead of Image.
Malibu is like the Atlas Comics of 1975. A line with a small percentage of characters that were great that we remember fondly. And we forget the majority of the stuff was subpar.
Malibu's Ultraverse... gone but not forgotten!
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Post by MDG on Jun 1, 2020 8:08:42 GMT -5
I'm utterly baffled by what I just read, not that I wouldn't put it passed people to do something like that. That's like shattering a rare vase on purpose and then hot gluing it back together
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Post by Trevor on Jun 1, 2020 10:08:30 GMT -5
I wanna see, have any pics?
Hmmmm, sounds like you think his pants are on fire. Darn, called my bluff! Now I have to cut up dozens of old books and make this proto-Plop. But seriously, I’m in the middle of potentially years long project of re-organizing my ~100 longboxes, and am not quite sure which room it’s in at the moment. But I’ll keep a look-out and try to post it here soon.. Now which modern artist would be best for a vintage looking Plop cover.....?
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 1, 2020 10:17:18 GMT -5
I'm utterly baffled by what I just read, not that I wouldn't put it passed people to do something like that. That's like shattering a rare vase on purpose and then hot gluing it back together Ah, yes; Comic Book Confidential! Interesting, if slightly odd documentary. I got a VHS of it from the discount display at a Phar-Mor store, in South Carolina and watched. The cover listed some of the creators interviewed; but, I was surprised, at the time, about how much it focused on the Undergrounds and Alternative comics. It made a nice companion for my tape of The Masters of Comic Book Art.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 1, 2020 12:00:16 GMT -5
Hmmmm, sounds like you think his pants are on fire. Darn, called my bluff! Now I have to cut up dozens of old books and make this proto-Plop. But seriously, I’m in the middle of potentially years long project of re-organizing my ~100 longboxes, and am not quite sure which room it’s in at the moment. But I’ll keep a look-out and try to post it here soon.. Now which modern artist would be best for a vintage looking Plop cover.....? 100 boxes? Yikes! No wonder you favor digital now.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2020 16:52:30 GMT -5
If I add all my Malibu books with Amalgam books and Rob No Feet Liefeld books, I still get (0+0+0)=0
90s was Tough Love....sorry
There, I zeroed it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2020 17:02:58 GMT -5
The only Ultraverse book I really dug was James Robinson's Firearm. I wanted to like Barry Windsor-Smith's Rune, but it underwhelmed me. I did dig Warren Ellis and George Perez on Ultraforce at the time, but it lost me on a reread and I no longer have those. I also really liked the design of Lord Pumpkin, but it was just one of those characters with a great visual that never seemed to have the stories to back it up and really make it click. The rest of the line just came across as run of the mill super-hero fare with average to sub-standard visuals and while it had an appeal as a breath of fresh air compared to a lot of what Marvel was doing and doing so poorly at the time, it really only was good by comparison to the bad stuff, not good on its own merits.
I'll still pick up the issues of Firearm I am missing now if I see them in bargain bins (but not Coedname: Firearm the follow up series by Wolfman that was ten shades of terrible), but other than that I have little to no interest in the Ultraverse stuff.
Now some of the Bravura books on the other hand, still hold some appeal to me. The one I was most excited for-a continuation of Dreadstar ended up being one of the least interesting of the lot that I read, but I still dig Starlin's Breed, Brereton's Nocturnals, Gil Kane's Edge, Simonson's Star Slammers, and am tracking down issues of Breyfogle's Metaphysique to check out when I find them at the right price.
-M
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Post by berkley on Jun 1, 2020 17:20:51 GMT -5
I missed all that stuff at the time but have bought a few back issues of various things since - e.g. Gerber's Sludge, the odd BWS comic. haven't ried reading any f it yet, though.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2020 17:23:03 GMT -5
I missed all that stuff at the time but have bought a few back issues of various things since - e.g. Gerber's Sludge, the odd BWS comic. haven't ried reading any f it yet, though. Oh I forgot, I do have the Mike Ploog illustrated holiday one-shot of Sludge as well, simply because it's Gerber-Ploog. I think it was called Red X-Mas. -M
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2020 19:14:26 GMT -5
You sometimes try to organise your comics and just end up with a bigger mess spread all over the carpeted floor.
Get up...close door....leave room....try again tomorrow. (at least they are safe!)
There, I said it.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 1, 2020 19:15:26 GMT -5
You sometimes try to organise your comics and just end up with a bigger mess spread all over the carpeted floor.
Get up...close door....leave room....try again tomorrow. (at least they are safe!)
There, I said it.
Right ??
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 1, 2020 20:10:54 GMT -5
The only Ultraverse book I really dug was James Robinson's Firearm. I wanted to like Barry Windsor-Smith's Rune, but it underwhelmed me. I did dig Warren Ellis and George Perez on Ultraforce at the time, but it lost me on a reread and I no longer have those. I also really liked the design of Lord Pumpkin, but it was just one of those characters with a great visual that never seemed to have the stories to back it up and really make it click. The rest of the line just came across as run of the mill super-hero fare with average to sub-standard visuals and while it had an appeal as a breath of fresh air compared to a lot of what Marvel was doing and doing so poorly at the time, it really only was good by comparison to the bad stuff, not good on its own merits. I'll still pick up the issues of Firearm I am missing now if I see them in bargain bins (but not Coedname: Firearm the follow up series by Wolfman that was ten shades of terrible), but other than that I have little to no interest in the Ultraverse stuff. Now some of the Bravura books on the other hand, still hold some appeal to me. The one I was most excited for-a continuation of Dreadstar ended up being one of the least interesting of the lot that I read, but I still dig Starlin's Breed, Brereton's Nocturnals, Gil Kane's Edge, Simonson's Star Slammers, and am tracking down issues of Breyfogle's Metaphysique to check out when I find them at the right price. -M Firearm was great for the writing; would have been even better with a more seasoned and stylistic artist. Nocturnals was fantastic; memorable characters, amazing visuals and pretty entertaining stories.
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Post by Batflunkie on Jun 2, 2020 21:24:18 GMT -5
The only Ultraverse book I really dug was James Robinson's Firearm. I wanted to like Barry Windsor-Smith's Rune, but it underwhelmed me. I did dig Warren Ellis and George Perez on Ultraforce at the time, but it lost me on a reread and I no longer have those. I also really liked the design of Lord Pumpkin, but it was just one of those characters with a great visual that never seemed to have the stories to back it up and really make it click. The rest of the line just came across as run of the mill super-hero fare with average to sub-standard visuals and while it had an appeal as a breath of fresh air compared to a lot of what Marvel was doing and doing so poorly at the time, it really only was good by comparison to the bad stuff, not good on its own merits. I'll still pick up the issues of Firearm I am missing now if I see them in bargain bins (but not Coedname: Firearm the follow up series by Wolfman that was ten shades of terrible), but other than that I have little to no interest in the Ultraverse stuff. Now some of the Bravura books on the other hand, still hold some appeal to me. The one I was most excited for-a continuation of Dreadstar ended up being one of the least interesting of the lot that I read, but I still dig Starlin's Breed, Brereton's Nocturnals, Gil Kane's Edge, Simonson's Star Slammers, and am tracking down issues of Breyfogle's Metaphysique to check out when I find them at the right price. -M Firearm was great for the writing; would have been even better with a more seasoned and stylistic artist. Nocturnals was fantastic; memorable characters, amazing visuals and pretty entertaining stories. Firearm was okay. I did like the Issue Zero movie though. Wish they had done more of them though, but apparently it was more or less just a proof of concept
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Post by hondobrode on Jun 2, 2020 21:35:05 GMT -5
I agree that Rune was the only one I attempted to like all because of BWS.
The Bravura line, I wanted to like, and it was better, but not very good except for the Nocturnals. Yes, that was good. Frankly, I'm hurt we haven't seen more of them.
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