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Post by Calamas on Nov 12, 2015 9:34:11 GMT -5
Bizzaro Why? Okay in the late 50s, early 60s when humor--or at least attempts at humor--permeated the DC style of superhero storytelling. But that type of story is long gone. Bizzaro should have long ago followed.
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Post by Cei-U! on Nov 12, 2015 10:02:13 GMT -5
I never really liked reading THOR because he talks funny. Verily, methinketh yon 'Stan the Man' , in days bygone, did confuseth his Old Norse and Olde English syntax. Yon results doth bloweth dead bear. I have had enow! Actually, Stan Lee likely took his cue for Asgardian dialect from Bulfinch's Mythology, a reference book that was to classic mythology what Roget was to thesaureses (thesauri?) and Bartlett to quotations, a book little Stanley Martin Lieber was almost certainly exposed to as a schoolboy. I've owned a copy since my own childhood. In re-reading it a few years back, I discovered that Bulfinch uses the exact same "thee-thou-thy" dialogue in his retelling of the Norse myths Stan does (though, curiously, not for the Greek or Egyptian myths). My theory is that the Smilin' One dug out his copy of Bulfinch while researching the new "Tales of Asgard" back-up series, thought "Hey, I like the way that makes the characters sound more mythic" and slowly converted his dialogue to match. Within six months of launching ToA, Thor and company were in full pseudo-Shakespearean mode. You may not care for it (lots of folks agree with you) but he seems to have come by it legit. Cei-U! I summoneth yon lightning!
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Post by Prince Hal on Nov 12, 2015 10:33:13 GMT -5
Superheroes that just never did it for me, try though I might, that have not been mentioned:
Namor Hulk Iron Man Supergirl Wonder Woman Firestorm B'wana Beast (JUST KIDDING!)
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Post by Hoosier X on Nov 12, 2015 11:10:54 GMT -5
Doctor Doom looks cool and has a great backstory/origin but is an obnoxious tool of a stereotypical villain, always ranting and raving and waving his royal willie. "You DARE to defy Doom?!!?" Please. That, and he's a typical Kirby super-scientist, able to pull the exact never-seen-before-or-since doodad out of his ass the situation calls for. Cei-U! I summon my cancelled Latverian visa! He was a great villain ... for a while. They started using him too much really early on. Even in the early 1970s he was wearing a little thin. I started reading comics in 1975 and I remember two or three good Doctor Doom adventures in the next ten years. And a lot of stories that made me roll my eyes. No wonder they started acting like they were all Doombots.
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Post by Hoosier X on Nov 12, 2015 11:12:59 GMT -5
The Bryne Superman run was a good run. It's not considered to be bad at all. I was talking more about the opinions of Byrne, in general. Not so much his runs on things. Everything I have read that he he has written, I have loved. <----I am exhausted, surely there is a better way to have worded that? I do not think I'm going to ever read his Wonder Woman, though. I have heard many bad things. I wanted to like it so bad! I bought it for a while for the art. And then about 20 issues in, I noticed the art was bad too.
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Post by realjla on Nov 12, 2015 11:15:01 GMT -5
Verily, methinketh yon 'Stan the Man' , in days bygone, did confuseth his Old Norse and Olde English syntax. Yon results doth bloweth dead bear. I have had enow! Actually, Stan Lee likely took his cue for Asgardian dialect from Bulfinch's Mythology, a reference book that was to classic mythology what Roget was to thesaureses (thesauri?) and Bartlett to quotations, a book little Stanley Martin Lieber was almost certainly exposed to as a schoolboy. I've owned a copy since my own childhood. In re-reading it a few years back, I discovered that Bulfinch uses the exact same "thee-thou-thy" dialogue in his retelling of the Norse myths Stan does (though, curiously, not for the Greek or Egyptian myths). My theory is that the Smilin' One dug out his copy of Bulfinch while researching the new "Tales of Asgard" back-up series, thought "Hey, I like the way that makes the characters sound more mythic" and slowly converted his dialogue to match. Within six months of launching ToA, Thor and company were in full pseudo-Shakespearean mode. You may not care for it (lots of folks agree with you) but he seems to have come by it legit. Cei-U! I summoneth yon lightning! Cei-Thee...pardon, I doth mean, Cei-Thou...(Strikes hammer on ground) Hey, good point, mister!
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Post by Hoosier X on Nov 12, 2015 11:18:25 GMT -5
Ra's al Ghul is terrible.
There I said it.
He has suffered from overexposure since about 1980. The only good Ra's al Ghul story since the O'Neil/Adams days is that Batman Annual with the Trevor von Eeden art.
I also still like him in the first storyline I ever saw him in - he's the presiding judge in the classic "Where Were You The Night Batman Was Killed?" issues.
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Post by DE Sinclair on Nov 12, 2015 11:43:53 GMT -5
That's the first thing I thought of too. Ouch.
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Post by Cei-U! on Nov 12, 2015 12:02:03 GMT -5
Ra's al Ghul is terrible. There I said it. He has suffered from overexposure since about 1980. The only good Ra's al Ghul story since the O'Neil/Adams days is that Batman Annual with the Trevor von Eeden art. I also still like him in the first storyline I ever saw him in - he's the presiding judge in the classic "Where Were You The Night Batman Was Killed?" issues. Ra's al Ghul is my favorite Bat villain so I should vehemently disagree, but I realized my love of the character comes almost entirely from "the O'Neil/Adams days [and] that Batman Annual with the Trevor Von Eeden art" so we sorta kinda agree!? I also like the David Warner-voiced version in the animated series. The Liam Neeson Ra's was a major disappointment, a pointless namecheck. I enjoyed using him as a behind-the-scenes villain in Lash House. Cei-U! I summon the Demon's Head!
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Nov 12, 2015 12:14:25 GMT -5
I summon the Demon's Head! Hey...this is an all-ages site.
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Post by DE Sinclair on Nov 12, 2015 12:22:29 GMT -5
I summon the Demon's Head! Hey...this is an all-ages site. Plus the Doom's "royal willie" remark. You are developing a potty-mouth, sir.
I summon the bar of soap!
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Post by The Captain on Nov 12, 2015 12:26:06 GMT -5
I wish Wolverine had been the one to die in X-Men #95, instead of Thunderbird.
There. I said it.
I never understood the appeal of Wolverine, and as his healing power grew out of control and he could survive pretty much anything, he became like Superman. There was no challenge for Wolverine, because even if he got beaten down, he was going to heal from his injuries and keep being "the best there was at what he did", which was pretty much smoking cigars, drinking, lusting after an involved woman, hanging out with underage girls, putting said underage girls into mortal danger on a regular basis, and fighting with Professor X and Cyclops because he wanted to kill people due to his inferiority complex over being not only short but also Canadian.
Bruce Banner should have let Rick Jones die in the gamma bomb test.
There. I said it.
Most of you know my hatred of Rick Jones, and while Banner not saving him would have deprived the world of the Hulk, it also would have prevented the ongoing douchbaggery inflicted on the MU by Rick Jones. He only existed because Stan Lee despised kid sidekicks and Jones served as an older POV that Lee figured more readers would relate to, leading Rick to interact with so many heavy hitters despite the fact that he had zero skills (unless "being a crappy wannabe rock singer" is a skill) and a grating personality. Rick Jones is the Forrest Gump of the MU, only with fewer IQ points and less social grace.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Nov 12, 2015 14:05:14 GMT -5
Gambit makes my stomach turn. Phony accent, super long trench coat that no one could maneuver in when its fight time. Stupid headband.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Nov 12, 2015 17:30:36 GMT -5
I wish Wolverine had been the one to die in X-Men #95, instead of Thunderbird.There. I said it. I never understood the appeal of Wolverine, and as his healing power grew out of control and he could survive pretty much anything, he became like Superman. There was no challenge for Wolverine, because even if he got beaten down, he was going to heal from his injuries and keep being "the best there was at what he did", which was pretty much smoking cigars, drinking, lusting after an involved woman, hanging out with underage girls, putting said underage girls into mortal danger on a regular basis, and fighting with Professor X and Cyclops because he wanted to kill people due to his inferiority complex over being not only short but also Canadian. That last bit made me laugh out loud! Poor Wolvie was so cool at one point, before he was made invincible, was given organic claws and got so overexposed that we all got adamantium poisoning. That was a long, long time ago.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2015 17:36:50 GMT -5
I take back what I said about Deadpool.
I just think that the 90s should be left in the 90s. So, that's a NO to Cable, too.
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