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Post by beccabear67 on Jul 4, 2020 20:24:54 GMT -5
There are some inkers who have a heaviness in style of their own where they overpower the pencils... Bruce Patterson, Gene Day, Terry Austin, Alfredo Alcala, Ernie Chan/Chua, or Rudy Nebres in particular, over anyone you are going to see less of the penciller's style. I always thought they might be a good match over either breakdowns or someone like Don Perlin, Don Heck or Sal Buscema, solid artists with a sort of plain surface. They did do that for awhile with Sal Buscema's Rom pairing him with the Akin & Garvey inking team, and I more vaguely remember Don Perlin having an inker like that on The Defenders for awhile. The more subtle/supportive inkers, Sinnott, Giordano, Rubenstein, Wiacek, Milgrom, I prefer on the strong pencils of Jack Kirby, John Buscema, Gil Kane, Michael Golden, John Byrne, if them inking themselves isn't an option (which for some might be too much of them?). I almost always like Ernie Chan/Chua covers, same as Cockrum, although a Neal Adams, Mike Kaluta or George Perez cover, and usually a Golden cover, was always a great highlight and could get me to buy even if the inside was not of great interest.
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Post by rberman on Jul 4, 2020 22:50:49 GMT -5
There are some inkers who have a heaviness in style of their own where they overpower the pencils... Bruce Patterson, Gene Day, Terry Austin, Alfredo Alcala, Ernie Chan/Chua, or Rudy Nebres in particular, over anyone you are going to see less of the penciller's style. I always thought they might be a good match over either breakdowns or someone like Don Perlin, Don Heck or Sal Buscema, solid artists with a sort of plain surface. I'd put Tom Palmer in that "heavy inkers" camp, but I'm never disatisfied with the results; his highlights are often, um, the highlight.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2020 11:44:00 GMT -5
I just started the Marvel Horror omnibus, and am reminded how much I hate writers using second-person. I assume it's supposed to make the reader feel more immersed in the story, but it has the opposite effect on me.
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Post by Prince Hal on Jul 5, 2020 12:16:50 GMT -5
I just started the Marvel Horror omnibus, and am reminded how much I hate writers using second-person. I assume it's supposed to make the reader feel more immersed in the story, but it has the opposite effect on me. Not sure exactly where it started, but the EC books were so well known for using it that I'm sure it became a commonly employed technique.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2020 12:24:11 GMT -5
I think I've only ever enountered it in Bronze Age Marvel stuff (never read EC). I'm pretty sure it's used in early Iron Fist stories and maybe even Werewolf by Night. It's not a deal-breaker, but it is always jarring when I come across it.
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Post by rberman on Jul 5, 2020 12:39:27 GMT -5
Yes, it appears in Man-Thing's debut:
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Post by beccabear67 on Jul 5, 2020 12:42:39 GMT -5
I'd put Tom Palmer in that "heavy inkers" camp, but I'm never disatisfied with the results; his highlights are often, um, the highlight. I thought Palmer was a bit inbetween, like Bob McLeod, but almost always adding and not wiping out the penciller's style. Those New Mutants were very well done, and later he was a good choice for The Hidden Years series, but I think I've read he was very heavy on that one-shot Silver Surfer by John Byrne.
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Post by Prince Hal on Jul 5, 2020 12:43:46 GMT -5
I think I've only ever enountered it in Bronze Age Marvel stuff (never read EC). I'm pretty sure it's used in early Iron Fist stories and maybe even Werewolf by Night. It's not a deal-breaker, but it is always jarring when I come across it. Yeah, I wasn't sure what era those stories were from, but it had become a cliché when EC was doing it constantly in the 50s.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 5, 2020 18:33:16 GMT -5
It's rarely used well, period, and especially not, in comics. The EC ones did it better.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2020 18:37:58 GMT -5
Those EC stories at least seem to be coupling it with art that matches the POV.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2020 8:11:57 GMT -5
Two things happened last week that I didn't expect to happen the week before.
1. I sold a massive 23% of my collection, just over 1500+ books in one fell swoop to several guys. They're delighted, I made some (very) good money, so win:win. Still have over 5,000 books so I'm still in this, just changing course a bit. I said goodbye to a lot of variant covers...
2. Spent a considerable sum on one indy book. Can't post a pic here as it's a bit risque and people report me enough already. I've already had some fun showing it around and got offered 2x what I paid for it but I'll be holding on to it for awhile.
So with a somewhat lighter collection and some useful cash in the kitty, waiting to see what unfolds in this half of the year.
Comics are fun. There, I said it.
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Post by MDG on Jul 6, 2020 10:17:59 GMT -5
I'd put Tom Palmer in that "heavy inkers" camp, but I'm never disatisfied with the results; his highlights are often, um, the highlight. I thought Palmer was a bit inbetween, like Bob McLeod, but almost always adding and not wiping out the penciller's style. Those New Mutants were very well done, and later he was a good choice for The Hidden Years series, but I think I've read he was very heavy on that one-shot Silver Surfer by John Byrne. For me, Palmer's the only inker who really "got" Gene Colan. Didn't try to slick it up and knew how to handle his muli-tonal pencils. I think I've only ever enountered it in Bronze Age Marvel stuff (never read EC). I'm pretty sure it's used in early Iron Fist stories and maybe even Werewolf by Night. It's not a deal-breaker, but it is always jarring when I come across it. Yeah, I wasn't sure what era those stories were from, but it had become a cliché when EC was doing it constantly in the 50s. EC may have picked it up from radio horror shows where it was used sometimes. Two things happened last week that I didn't expect to happen the week before. ... Can't post a pic here as it's a bit risque and people report me enough already. That's what the spoiler tag is for
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Post by impulse on Jul 6, 2020 10:27:27 GMT -5
Are you able/willing to list the title and issue so curious folks can risk looking it up on their own?
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Post by kirby101 on Jul 6, 2020 10:41:35 GMT -5
Yes, throw us a Crumb.
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Post by Phil Maurice on Jul 6, 2020 12:30:20 GMT -5
EC may have picked it up from radio horror shows where it was used sometimes. It's also used in Ralph Milne Farley's 1938 short story The House of Ecstasy, which originally appeared in Weird Tales and has since appeared in several anthologies.
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