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Post by codystarbuck on Aug 7, 2021 17:53:19 GMT -5
Definitely not a 70s remake kind of thing. If anything, it looks more late 90s/2000s HK action cinema.
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Post by brutalis on Aug 7, 2021 18:04:13 GMT -5
I will be there, popcorn and soda in hand to support Shang. A favorite comic, I love king fu movies, I love the Marvel movies and if teen me reading MOKF had been told 59 year old me would have a Shang Chi to see on the big screen, I would have been laughing in your face. Adult me will grab a chance to view ANY Marvel heroes in movie or television as those comics are a very essential part of my growing up. Living the joy of seeing these amazing characters brought to life now is amazing. Is there any comic book movie you didn't like ? There are lesser movies and series but I take them in stride trying to enjoy them for what they are. Hollywood interpretation cherry picking the best or worst in making them. I have a fondness for B-movies, so what some may call "bad" I can find entertaining. From cartoons to serials to blockbuster I 'm in for it. Hell, I like George Hamilton as Evel Knievel and Reb Brown as Captain America and liked Howard the Duck as movies. So "bad" is all kind of subjective to the individual.
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 7, 2021 18:06:32 GMT -5
Never trust a person who hates everything or loves everything.
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Post by kirby101 on Aug 7, 2021 18:11:52 GMT -5
But I would rather hang out with the ones that love everything.
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Post by brutalis on Aug 7, 2021 18:45:56 GMT -5
Never trust a person who hates everything or loves everything. Not that I LOVE everything, more a higher tolerance for mediocre. And you gonna critique Mr. Image/Liefeld lover extraordinaire? 🙃 I throw my liking of Frank Robbins and Don Heck in your general direction you Elderberry farting New York mail delivering walking dog treat! 😜 As I have said before, every thing that one considers as poor or bad can be gold to somebody else. Life is too short to spout on endlessly on negatives or dislikes, I'm more in the corner of finding a spark of joy or positivity and fanning that flame brighter. If you dwell on negativity it becomes reality and you will NEVER be satisfied or enjoy anything.
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Post by profh0011 on Aug 7, 2021 21:51:28 GMT -5
I throw my liking of Frank Robbins and Don Heck in your general direction As I have said before, every thing that one considers as poor or bad can be gold to somebody else. Life is too short to spout on endlessly on negatives or dislikes, I'm more in the corner of finding a spark of joy or positivity and fanning that flame brighter. If you dwell on negativity it becomes reality and you will NEVER be satisfied or enjoy anything. Totally agree.
I never liked Robbins' work for Marvel or DC, but as soon as I saw his newspaper comics work... WOW!!!
As for Don Heck...
Man, I wish WALLY WOOD had inked Heck more often. Wood had a way of being absolutely faithful to any given penciller's work, and making them look their absolute best.
You know, although Heck's run REMAINS my all-time favorite of Iron Man, when I look at these pages now, the only thing that feels out of place is the "smartass" dialogue coming from Tony Stark... especially given that during this scene, he believed his BEST friend in the whole world had just gotten KILLED.
This run had a tag-team of writers: Jack Kirby supplied the covers, villains and story ideas; Don Heck WROTE the stories at the art stage; and others filled in the word balloons.
Part of me wishes Kirby had done the dialogue. Ever since finding out he did the dialogue in FANTASTIC FOUR #6, it really explained to me why that issue was BETTER than any of the other issues during that time. It was the best writing Prince Namor received in the whole of the 1960s.
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Post by tartanphantom on Aug 7, 2021 21:51:54 GMT -5
As I have said before, every thing that one considers as poor or bad can be gold to somebody else. Life is too short to spout on endlessly on negatives or dislikes, I'm more in the corner of finding a spark of joy or positivity and fanning that flame brighter. If you dwell on negativity it becomes reality and you will NEVER be satisfied or enjoy anything. I endorse this-- especially the last sentence.
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Post by profh0011 on Aug 7, 2021 21:57:35 GMT -5
Oh, and speaking of Frank Robbins... I can't recall which website I ran across this, but someone in Brazil pointed out that artist Flavio Colin, early in his career, was a HUGE fan of Robbins' work. I think that's very obvious in this story he did in 1962...
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Post by berkley on Aug 8, 2021 1:43:01 GMT -5
I've been reading the Johnny Hazard dailies the last couple years and they are really great. Anyone who reads those strips will, I'm pretty sure, agree that Robbins was a very accomplished artist who knew exactly what he was doing when working in the medium and genre he'd been trained in - newspaper adventure strips.
But that colour sample Profh0011 posted above must have been a Sunday, was it? I assume they followed their own independent storylines, because I havent notice any gaps in the dailies collections I've been reading. It looks so good, I might have to start looking for those too - they haven't been included in the dailies collections I've been reading.
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 8, 2021 4:44:31 GMT -5
As I have said before, every thing that one considers as poor or bad can be gold to somebody else. Life is too short to spout on endlessly on negatives or dislikes, I'm more in the corner of finding a spark of joy or positivity and fanning that flame brighter. If you dwell on negativity it becomes reality and you will NEVER be satisfied or enjoy anything. I endorse this-- especially the last sentence. I'll be sending you both copies of Youngblood # 1.
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 8, 2021 4:46:53 GMT -5
While I recognize the wonky poses that Frank Robbins drew from time to time, I always found an energy in his layouts that made everything alright to my younger eyes. He was also very good at drawing planes and WW2 tech.
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Post by tarkintino on Aug 8, 2021 9:20:21 GMT -5
I endorse this-- especially the last sentence. I'll be sending you both copies of Youngblood # 1.
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Post by impulse on Aug 8, 2021 10:31:38 GMT -5
I’m just delighted that you called a mail carrier a walking dog treat. That’s a new one LOL.
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Post by profh0011 on Aug 11, 2021 21:09:18 GMT -5
I've been reading the Johnny Hazard dailies the last couple years and they are really great. Anyone who reads those strips will, I'm pretty sure, agree that Robbins was a very accomplished artist who knew exactly what he was doing when working in the medium and genre he'd been trained in - newspaper adventure strips. But that colour sample Profh0011 posted above must have been a Sunday, was it? I assume they followed their own independent storylines, because I havent notice any gaps in the dailies collections I've been reading. It looks so good, I might have to start looking for those too - they haven't been included in the dailies collections I've been reading. Every time I see samples of JOHNNY HAZARD I like what I see... so it's almost embarrassing to say I don't think I've ever read a single full story of the series. And seeing as I buy so few comics these days that's not likely to change anytime soon.
I will say, whatever happened to his art style when he went to DC and then Marvel, I have enjoyed some of his writing, when others did the art. Robbins, for example, wrote the first story where Dick Grayson moved out and went to college... Bruce Wayne decided to close down Wayne Manor, and set up a 2nd Batcave in the sub-basement of the Wayne Entrerprises building in the center of Gotham.
The Batmobile coming out of a door leading onto a side-alley, I have no doubt, was a straight-out tribute to THE GREEN HORNET. Hey, why not. The Black Beauty PRE-DATED The Batmobile by a few years.
I know that like several (many?) others, Robbins was influenced by Milton Caniff. After I read what i did opn some Brazillian website, someone had to argue with me insisting that Flavio Colin was influenced by Caniff. I only know what I read. (Some people just LOVE to argue-- I swear they get a kick out of it.) Of course, if Colin borrowed from Robbins, it would look like Caniff, since Robbins was borrowing from Caniff! (So did John Romita... and Don Heck! And Lee Elias, I think.)
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Post by berkley on Aug 11, 2021 23:32:29 GMT -5
I'm just starting to realise how great and how influential Caniff was after reading Steve Canyon the last couple years. Actually, one of the things that induced me to take the plunge was reading somewhere that Hugo Pratt cited Terry and the Pirates as one of his inpsirations for Corto Maltese - though I ended up reading Canyon instead because I happened to have some of the Kitchen Sink reprints in magazine-form.
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