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Post by Slam_Bradley on Sept 22, 2021 11:13:00 GMT -5
I love the Marx Brothers (so do both of my boys), but even I'll admit that a lot of their humor is incredibly dated and doesn't necessarily translate that well to 2021. But they also happened to be geniuses. Looking at contemporaries, nobody in their right mind still wants to watch The Ritz Brothers. And I've never understood why Edgar Bergen (for example) was supposed to be funny. I've been following this thread w/ interest, though. Over the past years, I've lost any interest in current movies and TV, at a time when they seem to loom larger in public consciousness than ever. It feels like they both try too hard and don't try hard enough. That is, everything is megahyped and "important," but doesn;t connect with me at all.
And that's fine. It's perfectly valid that current stuff doesn't connect with you. Lord knows we see the same thing with oldsters kvetching about new comic books. But for some reason an awful lot of people (and I'm not saying you) seem to have a hard time with the idea that older stuff doesn't connect with "those uneducated whipper-snappers." "It's okay for me but not for thee" seems to be pretty pervasive.
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Post by impulse on Sept 22, 2021 11:59:32 GMT -5
That is one universal truth that transcends time and generation - in any era, right along with the good stuff there is PLENTY of crap.
By the way, I am really enjoying this topic. It's very interesting!
Tangent note, for me, there are a few technology or format changes that are paradigm changers going forward, where going back to the old thing now seems firmly obsolete.
As Slam mentioned, the ongoing story-arc binge-able TV show with a finite ending seems, to me, the far superior way to do a story driven show. The default format being stand-alone done-in-one and/or when they just keep on going until they run out of ideas and cancel when it sinks to mediocrity seems to me firmly rooted in the "before" times. There are exceptions of course, particularly notably animated sit-coms for example, but for serious dramas, it's hard to imagine going back to watching 23+ episode shows with filler throwaway episodes, weeks off for other programming, 15 minutes of commercials. \
Also... commercials. I'll pay for the premium service, buy it online or wait for Netflix before I will sit through a commercial. Unbearable.
Music. Digital streaming is the way of the future for every day listening. It's just too damn convenient, and you have access to so much. Also, discovery. What used to take years of scouring record shops and talking to people, swapping tapes or burned CDs later is just instantaneous now. It's easier than ever to find more of what you like and listen any time.
I still bust out the record player every once in a while when I specifically want to listen to records, but I'm not going to do that as my default for music. Not going to carry around a binder of 100 CDs and swap them out in the car. No more winding back a cassette tape with a pencil and rewinding trying to find the right spot, or listening to crappy radio recordings where you missed the intro bc you hit record too late, or the DJ talked over it, or there's a commercial at the end, etc.
"Hey Siri, play Lady Gaga on Spotify." Ok!
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Sept 22, 2021 12:13:36 GMT -5
That is one universal truth that transcends time and generation - in any era, right along with the good stuff there is PLENTY of crap. By the way, I am really enjoying this topic. It's very interesting! Tangent note, for me, there are a few technology or format changes that are paradigm changers going forward, where going back to the old thing now seems firmly obsolete. As Slam mentioned, the ongoing story-arc binge-able TV show with a finite ending seems, to me, the far superior way to do a story driven show. The default format being stand-alone done-in-one and/or when they just keep on going until they run out of ideas and cancel when it sinks to mediocrity seems to me firmly rooted in the "before" times. There are exceptions of course, particularly notably animated sit-coms for example, but for serious dramas, it's hard to imagine going back to watching 23+ episode shows with filler throwaway episodes, weeks off for other programming, 15 minutes of commercials. \ Also... commercials. I'll pay for the premium service, buy it online or wait for Netflix before I will sit through a commercial. Unbearable. Music. Digital streaming is the way of the future for every day listening. It's just too damn convenient, and you have access to so much. Also, discovery. What used to take years of scouring record shops and talking to people, swapping tapes or burned CDs later is just instantaneous now. It's easier than ever to find more of what you like and listen any time. I still bust out the record player every once in a while when I specifically want to listen to records, but I'm not going to do that as my default for music. Not going to carry around a binder of 100 CDs and swap them out in the car. No more winding back a cassette tape with a pencil and rewinding trying to find the right spot, or listening to crappy radio recordings where you missed the intro bc you hit record too late, or the DJ talked over it, or there's a commercial at the end, etc. "Hey Siri, play Lady Gaga on Spotify." Ok! I'm very seriously out of touch with old people, i.e., people my age. The only reason we still have cable is because my wife is a compulsive channel flipper (which drives me nuts). I've almost got her convinced to switch to Hulu Live. The only over the air stuff I watch is college football and The Simpsons and Bob's Burgers on Sunday. Everything else is streaming. And I've re-visited a fair amount of older TV...and some of it holds up okay (Barney Miller and The Rockford Files spring to mind), but an awful lot of it is just old and sad. I haven't listened to over-the-air radio in well over a decade and haven't listened to a CD in almost that long. I stream 95% of my music. And you're 100% right, it's so much easier to find new music (and old music) than it ever has been before. I greatly prefer e-books to physical books, except for art-books. Oddly my Kindle has adjustable fonts and my paperbacks don't.
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Post by tonebone on Sept 22, 2021 12:24:03 GMT -5
Now, you're touching on something interesting. I feel like that is exactly what is happening with younger people, my own (now adult) kids, included. As a young person, I would have no problem watching a Marx Brothers movie (50 + years old) and enjoying it. My kids (and their generation) will RARELY find enjoyment in entertainment produced before their lifetime. It is a shortsightedness that is a byproduct of the instant and constantly evolving entertainment that the internet provides. A video that goes viral is instantly enjoyed, and a week later is "old" and "outdated". That's what fuels the movie REBOOT phenomena. Now, a movie is too old to market when it's 7 years old or so. The Marvel phase 1 movies are now 11 years old. I guarantee there are kids out there that see those as OLD. Why do so many folks see younger people not being interested in old entertainment made about old subjects with old technology as a character flaw? Other things are left to bygone eras once a newer version comes out. Why is it okay with other technology, but somehow not being interested in older movies means the youth have lost their way? I don't think that is accurate or fair. I am not going to track down an old wax record player you have to crank by hand to listen to barely comprehensible recordings of music in a style I don't like. Is it a character flaw that I just pull up what I want on Spotify and move on? Of course not. And many young people do track down older things. Old vinyl records have had a massive comeback. The original Star Wars movies remain beloved to this day. The 40s and 50s classical musicals are still hilarious and entertaining as hell. It's not as if everyone born after 1978 just collectively got together and agreed to ban anything from before they were born. I'm sorry, but kids today have access to anything ever created. The have to just type it in a search bar, use an app on the tv, etc. Lack of access/exposure is not the issue. But why would they even know to do that? What are they going to search for? If it's not presented to them or something they would be familiar with, they would not know what to search for. I think if there were some classes on history and evolution of film and special effects, though, a lot of people would find it very interesting, but I think it's wrong to say it's a character flaw that a twenty year old won't randomly search for old black and white silent films on Youtube of their own volition. I think it's because of the incredible amount of content being created, minute by minute. I would imagine just keeping up with all that crap being shoveled at you is a full-time job, precluding the time to develop any broader interests. I mean, it's sad to think that there's MORE than 24 hours worth of TikTok offal created in a 24 hour period. Doesn't leave a lot of time for anyone to develop an interest in old movies, classic books, etc. It's a constant churn of the new and fresh. You don't want to be left out.
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Post by tonebone on Sept 22, 2021 12:31:56 GMT -5
Sadly, I think, for me, it all boils down to this...
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Sept 22, 2021 12:59:50 GMT -5
Why do so many folks see younger people not being interested in old entertainment made about old subjects with old technology as a character flaw? Other things are left to bygone eras once a newer version comes out. Why is it okay with other technology, but somehow not being interested in older movies means the youth have lost their way? I don't think that is accurate or fair. I am not going to track down an old wax record player you have to crank by hand to listen to barely comprehensible recordings of music in a style I don't like. Is it a character flaw that I just pull up what I want on Spotify and move on? Of course not. And many young people do track down older things. Old vinyl records have had a massive comeback. The original Star Wars movies remain beloved to this day. The 40s and 50s classical musicals are still hilarious and entertaining as hell. It's not as if everyone born after 1978 just collectively got together and agreed to ban anything from before they were born. But why would they even know to do that? What are they going to search for? If it's not presented to them or something they would be familiar with, they would not know what to search for. I think if there were some classes on history and evolution of film and special effects, though, a lot of people would find it very interesting, but I think it's wrong to say it's a character flaw that a twenty year old won't randomly search for old black and white silent films on Youtube of their own volition. I think it's because of the incredible amount of content being created, minute by minute. I would imagine just keeping up with all that crap being shoveled at you is a full-time job, precluding the time to develop any broader interests. I mean, it's sad to think that there's MORE than 24 hours worth of TikTok offal created in a 24 hour period. Doesn't leave a lot of time for anyone to develop an interest in old movies, classic books, etc. It's a constant churn of the new and fresh. You don't want to be left out. I'm really not trying to get personal or be mean or anything, but this is the kind of statement that makes it really hard to take your statements seriously. This is literally the same thing the old guys said about that "nasty jungle rock-n-roll music" or a generation before that complaining about those "wacky bobby soxers swooning over that wimpy Sinatra kid." It's fine to not like what's going on on TikTok (I have no idea what's going on there). But it's almost certainly not aimed at you. And I have no idea why it's "sad" that it's being created. It's certainly not any less worthwhile than that funny-book offal.
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Post by sunofdarkchild on Sept 22, 2021 13:09:29 GMT -5
I find I have a hard time watching many silent movies for one specific reason - the acting is horrendous. I don't need to hear the actors speak. I can see it in the way their faces and bodies move. It's really distracting. It made the original Nosferatu a real chore to sit through. There are a few where I don't see that problem, but the ones that come to mind are Mel Brooks' Silent Movie from 5 decades later and The Jazz Singer, which is considered the first 'talkie' even though all of the spoken dialogue is silent.
Mediums evolve and standards rise, at least up to a point. Movies had a higher standard of acting in the 30s when sound became dominant than they did in the silent era. Obviously the standards of technology rise constantly, but a medium that has become mature will have higher standards of quality than a medium in its infancy. Movies in the 40s were better than movies in the 50s. Video games on modern consoles are better than games which came out on the Atari 2600 40 years ago. But I wouldn't say that movies released today are better than movies from the 1970s or that video games today are better than they were 10 years ago. By those points the media were already mature and any improvement was more on the technical side of things.
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Post by The Cheat on Sept 22, 2021 13:17:46 GMT -5
Yeah, you never get anything anywhere near that much dialog in a modern comic.
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Post by badwolf on Sept 22, 2021 13:22:09 GMT -5
As Slam mentioned, the ongoing story-arc binge-able TV show with a finite ending seems, to me, the far superior way to do a story driven show. The default format being stand-alone done-in-one and/or when they just keep on going until they run out of ideas and cancel when it sinks to mediocrity seems to me firmly rooted in the "before" times. There are exceptions of course, particularly notably animated sit-coms for example, but for serious dramas, it's hard to imagine going back to watching 23+ episode shows with filler throwaway episodes, weeks off for other programming, 15 minutes of commercials. \ Also... commercials. I'll pay for the premium service, buy it online or wait for Netflix before I will sit through a commercial. Unbearable. Music. Digital streaming is the way of the future for every day listening. It's just too damn convenient, and you have access to so much. Also, discovery. What used to take years of scouring record shops and talking to people, swapping tapes or burned CDs later is just instantaneous now. It's easier than ever to find more of what you like and listen any time. I still bust out the record player every once in a while when I specifically want to listen to records, but I'm not going to do that as my default for music. Not going to carry around a binder of 100 CDs and swap them out in the car. No more winding back a cassette tape with a pencil and rewinding trying to find the right spot, or listening to crappy radio recordings where you missed the intro bc you hit record too late, or the DJ talked over it, or there's a commercial at the end, etc. Can you name a TV show with a finite ending? And not a miniseries. Even dramas that have a continuing central story will go on forever if they can. They only end when people (viewers or the producers) get tired of it.
The big disappointment about the new car I got a few years ago was that there was no CD player. I did have a binder full of burned CDs that I kept in the car, but usually I just grabbed an album off my shelves and took it with me. I finally got used to using a USB drive, but what a pain it was to rip all that music to my computer, then transfer it all to the thumb drive. And then do it again every time I got something new. Not convenient at all.
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 22, 2021 13:23:39 GMT -5
There is an element to this debate/discussion that I think is missing in this, in regards to generational divides, past and present. We start with the notion about the time span between 1939 and 1980 and 1980 and 2021. And, yes, technology is an important part of the rapid change of the last 40 years, compared to that first 40 year block; but, technology changed rapidly through that first 40 years. The war spurred massive technological advancement and between 1939 and 1945, you have gone from prop airplanes to jet aircraft, you have created computers and you have guided missiles, which helps establish a basis for escaping the planet. The transistor leads to much technological change, as does the later printed circuit and micro-processors. That leads to exponential growth in computers, going from things that fill a room to something you carry in your pocket. That's a given.
There is another factor at work with sociological changes and how the media interacts with government and business and how business impacts everyday life. Advertising has been around as long as there has been commerce; but, changes in media created changes in advertising and the psychology of it. The wider the audience, the bigger the changes. Radio was a major evolution in mass marketing than print and television even more, as it was a visual medium and could deliver its messages in multiple layers. That is the foundation of the Baby Boomers, as their parents developed with radio and print and film, while Boomers had those and, now television. Radio jingles and catch phrases from popular shows were part of the consciousness and tv commercials had a deeper connection. However, most of that material was directed at the broadest possible audience and that continued into the 1970s. Radio might focus on a specific genre of music; but, stations were programming their own music, rather than having it determined by a head office, because their was a statutory limit on media ownership, within markets.
The 1980s changed all of that, both in control of the media and how marketing catered to an audience. The Reagan Administration FCC lifted the prohibitions on media ownership, leading to a wave of corporate media mergers and sales, to the point that, now, most of radio is owned by a few companies and the same with tv stations. Corporations bought up the film studios, then the networks and cable channels, sold them and merged, until there were fewer and fewer players. The end result is a homeginization of the media.
Within all of that, you have the rise of those same conglomerates and how they do business, which carried into the media and into education, as courses became geared towards the corporate environment. At the heart of that is the idea of metrics determining courses of action, instead of instinct and experience. Everything had to be quantifiable, because it sounded more scientific and, therefore, indisputable. Within advertising and the media, the metrics were ratings and other measures of audience response; but, in the 80s, that became focused more narrowly on specific demographic groups. Now, content is not only homogenized, it is specialized or even ghettoized.
I'm a Gen X-er, but at the very start of that generation, so I fall into the more twilight world of the generational transition. My father was born in 1931. I grew up with Network tv, before the networks were part of conglomerates and before cable tv. Films were contemporary, but I was exposed to early silent films and shorts at Shakey's Pizza Parlor, where they had family entertainment, which included comedy shorts, with laurel & Hardy and Charlie Chaplin, among others (and sing-alongs). Non-regularly programmed tv wasn't filled with paid advertising, but with syndicated fare, often from packagers, which meant cartoons, tv reruns and movie blocks. Those movies could be almost anything, from any era and I saw 1930s films and 1960s films, plus 1950s and 60s tv, as well as more recent.
Within comics, I not only had the current stuff, but I also had reprints of stuff from the 30s and 40s and the odd ones from the 50s and 60s. The good material stood out and was more likely to be reprinted. The Barks Disney stories reappeared, in different formats, the EC library, The Spirit, etc. On tv, I could watch Casablanca and What's Up Doc?, which was a contemporary movie.
With the advent of cable tv and a small number of conglomerates controlling the majority of the mass media, I had more choices, but with less variety within those choices. To see the same variety of tv I might find on a Wednesday night, on ABC TV, I might now have to watch 5 different cable channels or streaming services, plus Youtube. When I was young, our local radio station tended towards light rock/adult contemporary, but I could hear country, soul/R&B, rock, pop, a classical piece and maybe some jazz (especially 50s or 60s stuff). Now, I get one genre, within a narrowly defined spectrum, aimed at a specific demographic. I can go to satellite (if I chose to pay for radio) and get what I want; but, only as offered by the channel. I can do the same online; but, again, I have to pursue a variety of platforms to find that same variety.
Personally, I find that before the 1980s, the wider variety of things within the media and entertainment led to a greater appreciation of a wider selection of it and a greater openness to try older material, be it music, film or print. Once the focus became narrower and targeted specifically to a certain demographic, there seems to be the effect of limiting the vision of that demographic to anything outside that focus. Thus, younger generations don't have an interest in their parent's media, because they haven't been given samples of it, in steady doses, by their own media.
Obviously, individual parental influences play a big part in this. My generation had more time with their parents, often with only one parent working outside the home (though my generation saw the greater transition to both parents working in the marketplace). My father was a science teacher, who taught us to be curious about the world around us. We grew up in the country (both my parents grew up on farms, though my mother spent her teen years in a larger community) and went for hikes, looking for fossils and such. We would follow the tracks of the old "inter-urban" rail line, a transit service between Decatur and Springfield, IL, which ran separate from the railroads. There was even an old rail stop shack still standing. We would visit my grandfather's farm and watch my grandfather milk cows (we didn't get a go because his milking cow could be moody) and hunted and fished. My school classes visited the state museum, went to factories to see things made, had puppet shows, saw stage plays, and had cartoon and film festivals before holiday break. The weekly visit to Shakey's gave us the old silent comedies. The local PBS station had Sesame Street, The Electric Company and Mr Rogers, but also a program (never been able to recall the name) that featured cultures from around the world. it also had British comedy programs and dramas, creating an appreciation for British tv, as much as American. Our local tv had regular movie slots, with all kinds of films. Sure, I preferred more action-oriented stuff; but, I also learned to appreciate good comedies, from any era, from the Hope & Crosby Road pictures to Woody Allen (in his "funny" days).
I read any comic I got my hand on, from any era. Some registered more than others and I sought more of that out; but, that didn't stop me from at least trying other ones. Our newspaper strips were a mix of gags, soap opera and adventure strips; but, as space was reduced, the gag strips were about all that survived. Certainly the artistry didn't survive, other than Bill Watterson, in the Sunday Calvin & Hobbes.
I had grown somewhat tired of comics, by the early 80s, until I discovered the new independents that were popping up and could read something other than the same tired old superhero story. DC's attempts at changing things led to them being more daring and delivering a greater variety of material and with a focus beyond the traditional age groups. That opened comics up to me even more, as I moved out of my action comfort zones (and comedy, as I always appreciated humor comics) into things like Love & Rockets, or Maus or something like Dark Horse Presents or Negative Burn. It gave me access to comics from Asia, Europe and Latin America, plus the odd one from Australia (not so much Africa, as the one African comic I can recall was done by Dave Gibbons).
I get that modern audiences may not care for older comics, though, as with my generation, you can spot the difference between the average and the exceptional. The exceptional will always find an audience, even if it isn't as wide an audience as it once was. However, to be unwilling to just sample is a sad state and speaks, to me, to how narrow experiences have become, because of corporate focuses within media and entertainment and how that has affected things outside those fields (education, parenting, etc...)
You give kids a variety and they are more apt to try different things. You feed them the same thing, again and again and they will be conditioned to only want that. Within comics, we see that with the dominance of superhero comics, new vs old, male vs female. if you look at the history of the market, it was at its strongest when it catered to a wide variety of tastes and was a legitimate mass medium, and not a niche product. That narrowed focus led to it becoming niche, as it has led to specialization in a great many things.
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Post by badwolf on Sept 22, 2021 13:30:53 GMT -5
I haven't listened to over-the-air radio in well over a decade and haven't listened to a CD in almost that long. I stream 95% of my music. And you're 100% right, it's so much easier to find new music (and old music) than it ever has been before. I still listen to FM radio all the time. There are specialty shows I love, as well as particular hosts I enjoy listening to. Music that is curated, not chosen by some A.I.
I still buy and listen to CDs too. There are so many deluxe reissues coming out these days, it's a real golden age for this 80s kid.
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Post by badwolf on Sept 22, 2021 13:38:15 GMT -5
The 1980s changed all of that, both in control of the media and how marketing catered to an audience. The Reagan Administration FCC lifted the prohibitions on media ownership, leading to a wave of corporate media mergers and sales, to the point that, now, most of radio is owned by a few companies and the same with tv stations. Corporations bought up the film studios, then the networks and cable channels, sold them and merged, until there were fewer and fewer players. The end result is a homeginization of the media. I remember noticing the change in the late 80s, even though at the time I had no idea of the machinations behind it.
I only listen to public/college radio now.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Sept 22, 2021 13:46:10 GMT -5
As Slam mentioned, the ongoing story-arc binge-able TV show with a finite ending seems, to me, the far superior way to do a story driven show. The default format being stand-alone done-in-one and/or when they just keep on going until they run out of ideas and cancel when it sinks to mediocrity seems to me firmly rooted in the "before" times. There are exceptions of course, particularly notably animated sit-coms for example, but for serious dramas, it's hard to imagine going back to watching 23+ episode shows with filler throwaway episodes, weeks off for other programming, 15 minutes of commercials. \ Also... commercials. I'll pay for the premium service, buy it online or wait for Netflix before I will sit through a commercial. Unbearable. Music. Digital streaming is the way of the future for every day listening. It's just too damn convenient, and you have access to so much. Also, discovery. What used to take years of scouring record shops and talking to people, swapping tapes or burned CDs later is just instantaneous now. It's easier than ever to find more of what you like and listen any time. I still bust out the record player every once in a while when I specifically want to listen to records, but I'm not going to do that as my default for music. Not going to carry around a binder of 100 CDs and swap them out in the car. No more winding back a cassette tape with a pencil and rewinding trying to find the right spot, or listening to crappy radio recordings where you missed the intro bc you hit record too late, or the DJ talked over it, or there's a commercial at the end, etc. Can you name a TV show with a finite ending? And not a miniseries. Even dramas that have a continuing central story will go on forever if they can. They only end when people (viewers or the producers) get tired of it. The Sopranos. The ratings were still fine. The cast was largely still willing to continue. David Chase just decided the story had run its course. Breaking Bad. Vince Gilligan wanted it to end when it was at its peak, having felt The X-Files went on far to long. Justified. The creators decided in season four that they wouldn't go past season six. The series was essentially about the relationship between Raylan and Boyd and it had been fully explored. The Good Place. Still critically acclaimed. Still decent ratings. Huge streaming presence. The creators decided when it was picked up for Season Two that the story would be done in four seasons.
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Post by impulse on Sept 22, 2021 14:01:05 GMT -5
I'm really not trying to get personal or be mean or anything, but this is the kind of statement that makes it really hard to take your statements seriously. This is literally the same thing the old guys said about that "nasty jungle rock-n-roll music" or a generation before that complaining about those "wacky bobby soxers swooning over that wimpy Sinatra kid." It's fine to not like what's going on on TikTok (I have no idea what's going on there). But it's almost certainly not aimed at you. And I have no idea why it's "sad" that it's being created. It's certainly not any less worthwhile than that funny-book offal. To play devil's advocate a bit, there is a difference between comparing professionally-produced entertainment media and social-media/user-generated content. The biggest advantage of the social media age is ANYONE can get their voice out there! The biggest negative is...ANYone can get their voice out there. Not to say I think disposable short clips on TikTok are meant to replace TV shows, etc. Can you name a TV show with a finite ending? And not a miniseries. Even dramas that have a continuing central story will go on forever if they can. They only end when people (viewers or the producers) get tired of it. The big disappointment about the new car I got a few years ago was that there was no CD player. I did have a binder full of burned CDs that I kept in the car, but usually I just grabbed an album off my shelves and took it with me. I finally got used to using a USB drive, but what a pain it was to rip all that music to my computer, then transfer it all to the thumb drive. And then do it again every time I got something new. Not convenient at all.
Of course. Recently and (in)famously Game of Thrones. The aforementioned Breaking Bad. It was a big deal at the time that the creators of Lost fought with the network about the run of the show, because they WANTED to end it before it started to suck, but the network wanted to milk it. They didn't stick the landing, but they fought the good fight. I am not saying that all TV shows have as much detail as "three 15-episode seasons and we're done!" worked out before they even pitch the thing, but there is a marked shift in telling a story and stopping once you're tapped out instead of incessantly milking it and pumping out seasons of meaningless crap until ratings get so bad you limply cancel it. Many drama seem much more deliberate now. In fact, it was pretty jarring watchin a network show recently-ish. I had mostly been doing steaming stuff and originals for a while, but I watched a broadcast channel drama, and it was actually distracting seeing the "Network TV showiness" of it behind the curtain. Seemingly impactful changes being handwaved away and neatly tied up within a couple episodes to get back to a status quo felt awkward. Stuff when you can tell they don't have a plan and are meandering and making it up as they go. It feels cheesy and like they missed the boat on the better way we found to do this now. That has got to be the most convoluted way to get digital songs playing in your car in 2021. If you have a smartphone, can you not plug it in via the USB drive? I haven't had to rip a CD to get music on my phone or car in a LONG time aside from the very occasional rarity not available on Spotify. Fan edits, DVD audio rips I did myself, etc. The particular way you are doing it is not convenient, no, but that is also not close to the typical method these days. While you are free to choose to do it however you like, it's just inaccurate to act like proves digital music is not convenient. I am fortunate that my car has CD as well as Bluetooth/USB, so I do have that option, but I've had basically one CD in my car most of the last 5 years.
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Post by String on Sept 22, 2021 14:08:03 GMT -5
The problem I have with streaming services is that I can watch (nearly) anything I want, anytime I want, for however long I want. Instead of being excited about this, I freeze up because I can't decide what I want to watch.
That's because I'm used to the weekly viewing schedule of the networks. Certain shows come on certain days of the week. For example, this upcoming fall, CBS is making Monday nights NCIS night with the majority of those shows. Tuesday night is FBI night with those shows. NBC does something similar with the Law & Order shows and their Wednesday nights is all about the various Chicago shows.
That's what gets me excited, knowing that a certain show is coming on tonight versus being able to stream said new episode the next day along with the entire history of that show whenever I feel like watching it. If that makes me old-fashioned, So Be It.
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