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Post by MDG on May 5, 2023 10:40:56 GMT -5
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Post by zaku on May 5, 2023 10:51:59 GMT -5
It seems a shared opinion that it wasn't considered very good even then... |
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Post by codystarbuck on May 5, 2023 11:50:08 GMT -5
Newspaper strips were a very competitive field and even fantastic art wasn't a sure-fire seller. You had to convince a syndicate, editors and the readers.
As for the content, you could look at a dozen strips of the era and find similar gags...magazine comics, too.
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Post by impulse on May 5, 2023 14:52:57 GMT -5
I really like the art, so I googled about this strip and...  Yes, times are changing, new sensibilities etc but... people actually found this funny? I'm giggling right now at it. I just showed my wife and she laughed as well. The character's charming confusion over what the announcer actually meant has brought a brief diversion from the monotony of the workday, I say bravo. Simple cartooning for a simpler time. I laughed, too, but I also like stupid jokes, so I don't know if that means much. |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on May 5, 2023 15:04:58 GMT -5
I really like the art, so I googled about this strip and... Yes, times are changing, new sensibilities etc but... people actually found this funny? The art is great, but even for 1967 the gag feels dated. This is almost a decade after Lenny Bruce was shaking up comedy. 1967 is when both George Carlin and Richard Pryor were shedding their clean-cut image for legendary work they would come to do. I don't expect ground-breaking comedy from a gag comic strip in 1967, but this feels over a decade out of place. |
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Post by MDG on May 5, 2023 15:25:20 GMT -5
I really like the art, so I googled about this strip and... Yes, times are changing, new sensibilities etc but... people actually found this funny? The art is great, but even for 1967 the gag feels dated. This is almost a decade after Lenny Bruce was shaking up comedy. 1967 is when both George Carlin and Richard Pryor were shedding their clean-cut image for legendary work they would come to do. I don't expect ground-breaking comedy from a gag comic strip in 1967, but this feels over a decade out of place. |
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Post by berkley on May 5, 2023 15:38:25 GMT -5
Marvel should do a Hulk/Lizard story. Or perhaps we’d just best keep doing multi-issue sequels to the likes of Civil War. I mean, we could do something fresh, or we could just revisit old ground. I could envision Banner seeking out Curt Connors, given Connors has, at times, exhibited relative control over the Lizard. Banner would seek Connors’ expertise, the two would swap notes, and then, inevitably, we’d see the Hulk and Lizard fight.
What would be the point? Like Superman and a few other characters, the Hulk is so over-powered that the Lizard is just a weird-looking guy in a lab-coat, comparatively.
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Post by berkley on May 5, 2023 15:49:20 GMT -5
I didn't mind the joke in itself, but making it part of a dumb blonde routine spoils it for me. Looking at a few more samples, the dumb blonde aspect even hinders my enjoyment of the artwork at times, because Oskner puts a silly expression on Soozi's face now and then to show how dumb she is.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on May 5, 2023 15:53:11 GMT -5
The art is great, but even for 1967 the gag feels dated. This is almost a decade after Lenny Bruce was shaking up comedy. 1967 is when both George Carlin and Richard Pryor were shedding their clean-cut image for legendary work they would come to do. I don't expect ground-breaking comedy from a gag comic strip in 1967, but this feels over a decade out of place. I know. I'm absolutely expecting too much from the general public. You have to get down to #18 to find anything interesting. |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2023 16:02:06 GMT -5
Marvel should do a Hulk/Lizard story. Or perhaps we’d just best keep doing multi-issue sequels to the likes of Civil War. I mean, we could do something fresh, or we could just revisit old ground. I could envision Banner seeking out Curt Connors, given Connors has, at times, exhibited relative control over the Lizard. Banner would seek Connors’ expertise, the two would swap notes, and then, inevitably, we’d see the Hulk and Lizard fight.
What would be the point? Like Superman and a few other characters, the Hulk is so over-powered that the Lizard is just a weird-looking guy in a lab-coat, comparatively.
Well, I'll take a stab at "60's Marvel style": Bruce Banner seeks out Curt Connors and tells him his research may be the key to helping him develop a cure. Connors tells him there are no guarantees, but he'll do what he can. Several long days pass, and working around the clock, Connors develops an experimental serum, but broods on the thought "on paper it might be a cure, but how can I be sure." And then in a typical Silver Age "complete lapse of any logic" moment, he decides "the only way to be sure is to try it on myself first, if my equations are right, it should be harmless due to the residual reptile DNA in my bloodstream countering the effects." Immediately proceeding to inject himself, he quickly says "wait, something's wrong, this shouldn't be happening...I can feel the Lizard returning, but somehow it's different, far more intense...must...fight...it...". Turning into an enhanced Lizard with far more strength and toughness than in the past, his reptile persona fully in control and more twisted than ever, he says "Banner did thissssss to me, he will pay!!!". And well, you get the rest. |
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Post by zaku on May 5, 2023 16:26:54 GMT -5
I didn't mind the joke in itself, but making it part of a dumb blonde routine spoils it for me. Looking at a few more samples, the dumb blonde aspect even hinders my enjoyment of the artwork at times, because Oskner puts a silly expression on Soozi's face now and then to show how dumb she is. Yep. It's one thing to be a little air-headed. In small quantities it can also be enjoyable. Another thing is stupidity that is dangerous for oneself and for others. If a friend of mine behaved like this I would seriously worry. And before you start making comparisons to Tom and Jerry or Popeye let me point out that Soozi has a semi-realistic tone.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2023 16:34:10 GMT -5
I didn't mind the joke in itself, but making it part of a dumb blonde routine spoils it for me. Looking at a few more samples, the dumb blonde aspect even hinders my enjoyment of the artwork at times, because Oskner puts a silly expression on Soozi's face now and then to show how dumb she is. Yep. It's one thing to be a little air-headed. In small quantities it can also be enjoyable. Another thing is stupidity that is dangerous for oneself and for others. If a friend of mine behaved like this I would seriously worry. And before you start making comparisons to Tom and Jerry or Popeye let me point out that Soozi has a semi-realistic tone. I'd like to see Silver Age Superman meet Soozi, but try to trick her regularly so she didn't discover his identity. Oh the antics that would create with those two. |
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Post by zaku on May 5, 2023 16:37:57 GMT -5
Yep. It's one thing to be a little air-headed. In small quantities it can also be enjoyable. Another thing is stupidity that is dangerous for oneself and for others. If a friend of mine behaved like this I would seriously worry. And before you start making comparisons to Tom and Jerry or Popeye let me point out that Soozi has a semi-realistic tone. I'd like to see Silver Age Superman meet Soozi, but try to trick her regularly so she didn't discover his identity. Oh the antics that would create with those two. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 You have something here! |
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Post by badwolf on May 5, 2023 16:56:13 GMT -5
I could see that gag being made with Moose in Archie comics.
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Post by zaku on May 5, 2023 17:40:03 GMT -5
I could see that gag being made with Moose in Archie comics. Well, he's dyslexic. What's Soozi's excuse? |
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