Confessor
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Post by Confessor on Sept 12, 2024 18:47:14 GMT -5
Not to rain on anyone's parade, but I've never understood the love for this comic. Maybe I'm just a hard-hearted SOB, but I think it's a load of overly sentimental tosh!  Even putting aside how schmaltzy it is, ASM #248 is structurally a bit of a mess: it's half a continuation of Spidey's fight with Thunderball (which began in the previous issue) and half a recap of Spider-Man's origin – with a ladle-load of sentimentality for the eponymous "kid". I mean, yeah, it's a well-drawn and fairly well written recap, but it comes off as far too mawkish and manipulatively maudlin for my tastes. It's too eager to pull the reader's heartstrings, but it does so cheaply, layering on the fake poignancy with a trowel. It's the comic book equivalent of a song like "He Stopped Loving Her Today" by George Jones. Sorry, guys. I just don't see it.  Perhaps, but it doesn't pull at the heartstrings like Fat Slags, Biff Bacon, Sid the Sexist or Nobby's Piles.  *sniff* Gone, but not forgotten (sorry, there's something in my eye).  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2024 18:56:59 GMT -5
Certain European variants, which are distinct to their markets, are quite nicely done.
This Hungarian set turns the Superman vs Amazing Spider-Man Treasury into 2 comic sized editions. Love the covers. This set was besmirched with a coloured pencil on the 2nd cover but I am actively seeking another.
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Post by Cei-U! on Sept 12, 2024 19:14:41 GMT -5
One of my favorite Marvel stories, full stop. If I were asked to edit an anthology of the company's all-time best, this would be my first selection. Cei-U! Can you tell I kinda like it?
Not to rain on anyone's parade, but I've never understood the love for this comic. Maybe I'm just a hard-hearted SOB, but I think it's a load of overly sentimental tosh! Even putting aside how schmaltzy it is, ASM #248 is structurally a bit of a mess: it's half a continuation of Spidey's fight with Thunderball (which began in the previous issue) and half a recap of Spider-Man's origin – with a ladle-load of sentimentality for the eponymous "kid". I mean, yeah, it's a well-drawn and fairly well written recap, but it comes off as far too mawkish and manipulatively maudlin for my tastes. It's too eager to pull the reader's heartstrings, but it does so cheaply, layering on the fake poignancy with a trowel. It's the comic book equivalent of a song like "He Stopped Loving Her Today" by George Jones. Sorry, guys. I just don't see it. What can I say, dude? I'm a sucker for schmaltz. Always have been, probably always will be, and I make no apologies for that (not that you asked for one).
Cei-U! I'd summon the sentimental slob but I'm already here!
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Post by 80sChild on Sept 12, 2024 20:02:32 GMT -5
Probably a very unpopular opinion but damn it I prefer Superman with Wonder Woman instead of Lois Lane... There. I said it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2024 20:14:23 GMT -5
Probably a very unpopular opinion but damn it I prefer Superman with Wonder Woman instead of Lois Lane... There. I said it.
ah...ah...ah...ah...staying alive, staying alive...here they are at the dance-a-thon.....
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Post by wildfire2099 on Sept 12, 2024 20:41:10 GMT -5
Probably a very unpopular opinion but damn it I prefer Superman with Wonder Woman instead of Lois Lane... There. I said it. I can get behind that... I almost feel like they should be evil though if you go there. I've never been a huge Lois fan. |
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Post by shaxper on Sept 12, 2024 20:42:15 GMT -5
Probably a very unpopular opinion but damn it I prefer Superman with Wonder Woman instead of Lois Lane... There. I said it. I dunno. I've always had a hard time with the idea of heroes who have regularly fought together ending up in a relationship. You share some pretty awkward moments together. Can't imagine they have port-a-potties on Apokalypse, for example, which makes for lots of looking the other way and pretending not to hear what the other hero is doing in the Kirby-inspired bushes. |
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 12, 2024 21:36:35 GMT -5
Probably a very unpopular opinion but damn it I prefer Superman with Wonder Woman instead of Lois Lane... There. I said it. I dunno. I've always had a hard time with the idea of heroes who have regularly fought together ending up in a relationship. You share some pretty awkward moments together. Can't imagine they have port-a-potties on Apokalypse, for example, which makes for lots of looking the other way and pretending not to hear what the other hero is doing in the Kirby-inspired bushes. James Robinson actually made a character point about that, in Starman, when Jack Learns that his father had an affair, with Black Canary, while they were partnered up, against The Mist. It was a "heat of the moment" kind of thing, which both regretted and confessed to their loves, before they could be blackmailed about it. I always thought you could do a storyline, where Supes and Lois want to have a child, but Lois cannot carry the child and Wonder Woman acts as a surrogate. Kind of got the idea after reading Larry Niven's "Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex." |
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Post by tarkintino on Sept 13, 2024 0:35:41 GMT -5
Probably a very unpopular opinion but damn it I prefer Superman with Wonder Woman instead of Lois Lane... There. I said it. I can get behind that... I almost feel like they should be evil though if you go there. I've never been a huge Lois fan. At the very least, they would be able to understand the management and responsibilities of each other's type of dual identity life, instead of Lois living her obsessed fangirl dream, which was not a healthy basis for a relationship, obviously. |
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Post by shaxper on Sept 13, 2024 4:25:52 GMT -5
I can get behind that... I almost feel like they should be evil though if you go there. I've never been a huge Lois fan. At the very least, they would be able to understand the management and responsibilities of each other's type of dual identity life, instead of Lois living her obsessed fangirl dream, which was not a healthy basis for a relationship, obviously. I'm guessing you never read the Post-Crisis stuff? If you want to see Lois and Clark make sense, that's the run to check out (especially post-Byrne). Lois is anything but a fangirl there. |
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Sept 13, 2024 7:39:14 GMT -5
I dunno. I've always had a hard time with the idea of heroes who have regularly fought together ending up in a relationship. You share some pretty awkward moments together. Can't imagine they have port-a-potties on Apokalypse, for example, which makes for lots of looking the other way and pretending not to hear what the other hero is doing in the Kirby-inspired bushes. James Robinson actually made a character point about that, in Starman, when Jack Learns that his father had an affair, with Black Canary, while they were partnered up, against The Mist. It was a "heat of the moment" kind of thing, which both regretted and confessed to their loves, before they could be blackmailed about it. I always thought you could do a storyline, where Supes and Lois want to have a child, but Lois cannot carry the child and Wonder Woman acts as a surrogate. Kind of got the idea after reading Larry Niven's "Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex." Someone has watched Mallrats before. |
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 13, 2024 10:25:46 GMT -5
James Robinson actually made a character point about that, in Starman, when Jack Learns that his father had an affair, with Black Canary, while they were partnered up, against The Mist. It was a "heat of the moment" kind of thing, which both regretted and confessed to their loves, before they could be blackmailed about it. I always thought you could do a storyline, where Supes and Lois want to have a child, but Lois cannot carry the child and Wonder Woman acts as a surrogate. Kind of got the idea after reading Larry Niven's "Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex." Someone has watched Mallrats before. Yeah, but Niven was there long before. |
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Post by tartanphantom on Sept 16, 2024 8:07:50 GMT -5
I think it is what it is, @supercat , and people use it as it suits them. That means that some may over-use and some may under-use the feature, but yeah, I think we've all had posts which we thought were significant to ourselves, but still received the cricket symphony with no responses or "likes".
I primarily use the like function as a virtual "high-five", which may or may not also coincide with a written response from me regarding the topic; IF I have something significant to add.
I don't use it as a virtual check-mark, to indicate that I've read the post. I read threads here about 3-4 times as much as I post or respond, so for me, "like" is used for situations where I want to specifically acknowledge my agreement or encouragement.
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Post by tartanphantom on Sept 16, 2024 8:14:10 GMT -5
I think it is what it is, @supercat , and people use it as it suits them. That means that some may over-use and some may under-use the feature, but yeah, I think we've all had posts which we thought were significant to ourselves, but still received the cricket symphony with no responses or "likes".
I primarily use the like function as a virtual "high-five", which may or may not also coincide with a written response to the topic; IF I have something significant to add.
Yup, that makes sense. But if we were all in an actual room together and showing off some cool stuff, would you really go around and say "I like that, I don't like that, I'll let you know on that one, I'm not sure...". Wouldn't that be a little...weird?
I think that one thing we are missing in this world is more candor. One doesn't have to be a jerk about it, but if one doesn't like something or disagrees with something or someone, one should be able to politely and logically explain as to why, without it coming off as an attack.
It's mainly when disagreements devoid of reason or logic converge, that it begins to get ugly.
To paraphrase a hackneyed Jack Nicholson line, some people can't handle the truth. That's were sidestepping the topic as a whole is the better part of valor.
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Confessor
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Post by Confessor on Sept 16, 2024 11:12:59 GMT -5
Myself, I tend to reserve the "like" feature for those posts that I especially enjoyed or where I really agree with the sentiments being expressed.
I mean, I enjoy most of the posts I read in this forum, but if somebody has put a lot of effort into a post that I've enjoyed (like in a review thread for example), or if they've just scored some old comics from a series that I'm particularly a fan of, or if they make a comment about music, film, comics or even real life that I really agree with, then they will get a "like" from me. But I don't just "like" everything as a matter of course, otherwise it becomes kinda meaningless.
Also, if you're ever worrying about why a post of yours hasn't gotten any "likes", don't forget that sometimes folks just forget to "like" posts -- even if they really enjoyed reading them. I know I've forgotten to like posts on occasion, even though I meant to. Likewise, some of my best ever posts have gotten no reaction at all. It's just one of those things.
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