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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2015 17:50:06 GMT -5
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Dec 3, 2015 13:28:49 GMT -5
Chapter 9- I Shall Be Released
I asked Phil, now that he had come become officially a millionaire, how his life will be changed. He insisted that there won't be any major changes besides the fact he won't have to worry about paying rent anymore. He intended to live another 20 years, comfortably and without the need to work and was not going to be extravagant about it. And that turned out to be true. He wasn't as frugal as he was before although there will always be a bit of that in his character and he had updated his wardrobe and some of his electronic equipment. Essentially he remains as he was, still servicing his small group of new comic buyers because he enjoys doing it. And I kept telling him how disenchanted I was becoming with comics in general and my growing desire to sell my collection.
A few months after Phil's transaction he said to me-"Ish (another alias), would you be interested in selling your books to the same guy who bought Action #1?" My ears perked up like a Vulcan's . It would be the best I could hope for. My whole collection, sold all at once, complete to the last pamphlet. I estimated at that point that I had about 65,000 items or so. 150 long boxes, 100 short boxes, 30 or so magazine boxes. I would be saving the $350 a month storage space fee. I would see areas of my apartment I haven't seen in decades. I would be saving money from buying comics just out of habit. So using Phil as a middleman, I sent details of my collection to Mr. Seattle. I had meticulously over the years kept track of my ownership by title and condition via index cards. Old school, I know, but that's how it was when I started and never had the time to transpose all that info into a computer program. Now that Seattle Man knew what I had and each copies' estimated condition we negotiated a price.
It went back and forth for 2-3 weeks. My most valuable book was Amazing Fantasy #15 in F+ condition. I had real nice copies of many key books. Everything from 1976 and up was pretty muck near mint since I was the original owner and either never even read it or only did so once and then filed it. A price was agreed upon, Seattle Man flew back to NYC with his son. Again, Phil was the middle man-I was not going to meet Seattle Man personally to make sure things stay uncomplicated. I gave Phil the key to my storage room and Seattle Man with his son rummaged through it for the next day and a half for conformation of contents and condition. And no, I never availed myself of CGC services
Well that it, my friends. Seattle Man hired some movers and away went my books. Went to the storage place and closed my account. Its been almost 3 years since my sale and I don't regret it. Haven't bought a single comic since. Anytime I have an urge to read a funnybook, I get a collection from the library. And I have caught up via those collected editions many items I should have read years ago like the complete Vertigo run of Sandman, Fables, 100 Bullets and other things
The story would have been over by this point as originally intended. However thanks to some investigative research by our intrepid classi comic collector, UltimateJezebelle, there is a postscript concerning Action Comics #1.
Jez, if you will, I'll let you post and comment on what you brought to my attention. Take it away and thanks to all of you for reading, liking and commenting on this thread
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Post by Phil Maurice on Dec 3, 2015 16:59:41 GMT -5
I estimated at that point that I had about 65,000 items or so. 150 long boxes, 100 short boxes, 30 or so magazine boxes. . .My most valuable book was Amazing Fantasy #15 in F+ condition. I had real nice copies of many key books. Everything from 1976 and up was pretty muck near mint since I was the original owner and either never even read it or only did so once and then filed it. Absolutely riveting read, Ish! Bravo! Also, I suck at collecting comics and will henceforth restrict myself solely to those commemorative Elvis plates from the Franklin Mint.
65,000 is a number I will never even approach and AF #15 in any grade is sadly beyond my reach at this point. What I find interesting is how fine a line between "collector" and "hoarder" you describe. I know my wife (a very tolerant soul) would be extremely anxious about a collection 1/10th that size, and I would be fearful of an intervention if word of it spread to my family and friends.
Thanks for the vicarious thrill.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2015 12:26:53 GMT -5
Chapter 9- I Shall Be ReleasedThe story would have been over by this point as originally intended. However thanks to some investigative research by our intrepid classi comic collector, UltimateJezebelle, there is a postscript concerning Action Comics #1. Jez, if you will, I'll let you post and comment on what you brought to my attention. Take it away and thanks to all of you for reading, liking and commenting on this thread While browsing sites that report on valuable comics, I saw mention of both a 8.0 which sold back in 2011 for $1m+, and a 9.0 which sold recently for $3m+ But are they two separate books? A slabbed book isn't final, it can be opened and submitted for regrading. So I've seen comments that it might be the same book which earned an uptick on a subsequent submission. There are numerous instances of books being submitted for regrading after undergoing professional tweaks such as pressing (which remove small faults) but don't encroach upon 'restoration' and so a subsequent regrading can earn it higher marks. CGC's sensus lists one unrestored 8.0, one 8.5 and two 9.0s...but it's not clear if those are 4 separate books. Or if that 8.0 copy is still around as an 8.0 It's also claimed that the Edgar Church copy of Action #1 still remains in someone's personal collection, has never been graded, but those who've seen it claim it's the best copy of all. The Jez will settle for a dog-eared 2.0 copy if she ever gets her mitts on one.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Dec 4, 2015 14:20:22 GMT -5
Chapter 9- I Shall Be ReleasedThe story would have been over by this point as originally intended. However thanks to some investigative research by our intrepid classi comic collector, UltimateJezebelle, there is a postscript concerning Action Comics #1. Jez, if you will, I'll let you post and comment on what you brought to my attention. Take it away and thanks to all of you for reading, liking and commenting on this thread While browsing sites that report on valuable comics, I saw mention of both a 8.0 which sold back in 2011 for $1m+, and a 9.0 which sold recently for $3m+ But are they two separate books? A slabbed book isn't final, it can be opened and submitted for regrading. So I've seen comments that it might be the same book which earned an uptick on a subsequent submission. There are numerous instances of books being submitted for regrading after undergoing professional tweaks such as pressing (which remove small faults) but don't encroach upon 'restoration' and so a subsequent regrading can earn it higher marks. CGC's sensus lists one unrestored 8.0, one 8.5 and two 9.0s...but it's not clear if those are 4 separate books. Or if that 8.0 copy is still around as an 8.0 It's also claimed that the Edgar Church copy of Action #1 still remains in someone's personal collection, has never been graded, but those who've seen it claim it's the best copy of all. The Jez will settle for a dog-eared 2.0 copy if she ever gets her mitts on one. I have no doubt that the 2011 sale of the 8.0 copy of Action #1 was the transaction regarding my friend Phil. The article says it was sold to a Seattle resident whose name I know recall and who also bought my collection. (Remember I never met him personally, Phil was the middle man and I got paid out of Phil's bank account). The article claims it came from an unknown person (you got your wish for retaining anonymous status Phil) who obtained it in the late 1970s (I think they got it a little wrong because Phil mentioned earlier 70s). But if it had been resubmitted and kept receiving higher grades then Phil's complaints about CGC was quite justified I mentioned Phil has been doing professional restorations , even before he ever opened his own comic shop. He would have done any touch ups on his own copy himself of it being typecast as a "restored" edition. In fact he told me he had done so. A book like this migrating from a 8.0 to a 9.0 is an increase in value of over $1 million dollars!!!! I never used CGC or bought a CGC book in my life. All my back issue activity took place long before it existed (or even the internet for that matter). In the old days, prices were much lower, grading was looser and not so clearly defined and most transactions were either in person like at conventions or with established comic dealers I definitely see the need for third party, unbiased and consistant grading services. Thats a no-brainer due to ebay and such. The key words are unbiased and consistant. I have serious doubts about CGC regarding those 2 words
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 4, 2015 14:54:36 GMT -5
Thanks for the story, Ish. One question- did your friend ever find out what the neighbor intended to do with the book?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2015 14:56:09 GMT -5
Thanks for the story, Ish. One question- did your friend ever find out what the neighbor intended to do with the book? Clearly he was going to read it with his Doritos stained fingers.
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 4, 2015 15:14:21 GMT -5
Thanks for the story, Ish. One question- did your friend ever find out what the neighbor intended to do with the book? Clearly he was going to read it with his Doritos stained fingers. Thats is worse than him selling it.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Dec 4, 2015 16:03:32 GMT -5
Thanks for the story, Ish. One question- did your friend ever find out what the neighbor intended to do with the book? Carpet the bottom of his canary's cage!
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Dec 4, 2015 19:42:18 GMT -5
Thanks for the story, Ish. One question- did your friend ever find out what the neighbor intended to do with the book? He has never, to my knowledge, had any further conversations with that guy. I've seen him, he's very old, probably older than Action # 1. Does not see too well and might not have been interested in reading it anyway. Since he had no idea what it represented , he might just have thrown it away in a day or 2 later. Imagine that!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2015 20:01:23 GMT -5
Ta-da....
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Dec 4, 2015 20:25:22 GMT -5
BTW, candid question as I've never read it : why is Superman so angry at the car in that story?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2015 20:32:15 GMT -5
BTW, candid question as I've never read it : why is Superman so angry at the car in that story? More like the contents of the car....
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Dec 4, 2015 20:46:13 GMT -5
Ha, OK! I figured so, but why is smashing the car to bits after he emptied it from the goons?
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Dec 4, 2015 21:35:23 GMT -5
So Superman's first villian was Butch-The Man Who Drove A Car? Did he ever get a rematch? An origin story?
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