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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 22, 2015 6:10:56 GMT -5
And it's good to see you finally found the thread I just woke up.
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 22, 2015 6:12:38 GMT -5
You have to concede that Penciling takes up more creativity and time than lettering. I wouldn't pretend to know. However, having a daily newspaper strip depend upon your contribution, regardless of whether it takes two hours or six, is still one hell of a demand to keep up with for years on end. I think you're being purposely obtuse. OF COURSE it takes more time to pencil 2 entire books a month than to letter Newspaper strips.
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Post by shaxper on Dec 22, 2015 6:14:57 GMT -5
I wouldn't pretend to know. However, having a daily newspaper strip depend upon your contribution, regardless of whether it takes two hours or six, is still one hell of a demand to keep up with for years on end. I think you're being purposely obtuse. OF COURSE it takes more time to pencil 2 entire books a month than to letter Newspaper strips. Actually, I'm really not. We're talking about having a daily deadline as opposed to a monthly one. You can take a week off, go on vacation, visit friends, and then push through to turn out those two books that month, but you don't have that luxury when working on a daily. And, as a letterer for someone else's art, you can't exactly work ahead of them either. Granted, what Sakai does on a daily does not compare in terms of creative output, but in terms of clocking hours in the comic book medium, I think there's some major blood sweat and tears to be measured here.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Dec 22, 2015 10:21:57 GMT -5
There's also a lot of talent in lettering that gets over looked a lot of the time. I mean, just look at it, it has the clear uniformity of an actual typeset that a word processor would shoot out but it's actually done by hand, just sit down and try to write that concisely and consistently and you'll see how hard that is. In addition to that take a look at each of his projects, the lettering in Usagi is different than the lettering in Groo and both are different than Spider-Man, he's created three different type faces and each one is unique which is pretty impressive.
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Post by Crimebuster on Dec 22, 2015 11:13:54 GMT -5
In some respects, that made his journey easier, but in others, well, that's why he's probably done more than 209 issues of Usagi but the current volume is only at #147 #150. Get to the comic shop, man! Drop what you're doing!
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Post by shaxper on Dec 22, 2015 11:19:07 GMT -5
In some respects, that made his journey easier, but in others, well, that's why he's probably done more than 209 issues of Usagi but the current volume is only at #147 #150. Get to the comic shop, man! Drop what you're doing! Yikes! Been away from my LCS for too long. Good thing I've got a pull list. Well 150 + 16 + 38 = 204 issues even without the color specials, the Senso limited series, and the three Space Usagi limited series, so that really does put Sakai in the lead in all respects but the official number at the top left of the cover.
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Post by coke & comics on Dec 22, 2015 15:18:31 GMT -5
Get to the comic shop, man! Drop what you're doing! Yikes! Been away from my LCS for too long. Good thing I've got a pull list. Well 150 + 16 + 38 = 204 issues even without the color specials, the Senso limited series, and the three Space Usagi limited series, so that really does put Sakai in the lead in all respects but the official number at the top left of the cover. Don't forget Savage Dragon also has various limited series and such when you're totalling.
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Post by shaxper on Dec 22, 2015 15:31:56 GMT -5
Yikes! Been away from my LCS for too long. Good thing I've got a pull list. Well 150 + 16 + 38 = 204 issues even without the color specials, the Senso limited series, and the three Space Usagi limited series, so that really does put Sakai in the lead in all respects but the official number at the top left of the cover. Don't forget Savage Dragon also has various limited series and such when you're totalling. Good point.
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 22, 2015 15:43:57 GMT -5
I will repost this from an earlier post
In his 209 issue run ( to date) He has produced , four double sized issues, one 64 page issue, one 80 page issue and four 100 page issues. He has also released a comic with the regular size dimensions and in digest form. I will grant you that the extra sized issues he had inkers aiding him in the back up stories, but still that's a lot of pages. Also, during his 22 year run many mini series related to Savage Dragon have been written by him and drawn by others.
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Post by shaxper on Dec 22, 2015 16:39:54 GMT -5
I will repost this from an earlier post In his 209 issue run ( to date) He has produced , four double sized issues, one 64 page issue, one 80 page issue and four 100 page issues. He has also released a comic with the regular size dimensions and in digest form. I will grant you that the extra sized issues he had inkers aiding him in the back up stories, but still that's a lot of pages. Also, during his 22 year run many mini series related to Savage Dragon have been written by him and drawn by others.Yup. So Larson does have him beat in terms of number of issues (due entirely to Sakai's wife dying; not exactly fair), but Sakai has been at it longer and is coming from an independent background more similar to what Sim had to do without all the perks of being a darling of the comic industry when he launched. Again, though you know what side I'm fighting for, both sides have claims to the title, and I acknowledge as much in the OP.
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 22, 2015 16:50:31 GMT -5
This is like when McGwire and Sosa were battling to both break the single season Home run record. They are both doing remarkable things with this run. I might have to read one of those samurai Rabbit books.
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Post by Action Ace on Dec 22, 2015 17:00:41 GMT -5
This is like when McGwire and Sosa were battling to both break the single season Home run record. They are both doing remarkable things with this run. I might have to read one of those samurai Rabbit books. So it will be revealed that both of them were using an army of "assistants" to help them break the record? And is Sakai the one using a corked pencil?
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Post by Action Ace on Dec 22, 2015 17:02:19 GMT -5
My Sim, Sakai and Larsen total is zero, so I'm looking for someone to pass Eric Shanower.
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Post by coke & comics on Dec 22, 2015 17:37:48 GMT -5
My Sim, Sakai and Larsen total is zero, so I'm looking for someone to pass Eric Shanower. :P Of these I only really appreciate Sakai. I've tried a couple times to get into Savage Dragon. I appreciate it but have never taken the plunge to read it through. I've also tried to get into Cerebus. And... well... it's a hard slog.
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Post by coke & comics on Dec 22, 2015 18:45:32 GMT -5
Sakai hit the 27 year mark first and wins something for being the longest-published of the sort in history. After I typed this, I realized I'd forgotten Love & Rockets, still going strong after 34 years. So it's really only number of issues published that Sakai and Larsen are fighting over.
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