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Post by Icctrombone on Sept 30, 2019 18:24:44 GMT -5
That happened to me once in London, when I was out with my wife. I went ape-shit at the woman doing the spraying, to say the least. I know it's only her job, but it's such an unbelievablely rude invasion of your personal space that, I'm sorry, if you're gonna take the cash for doing such an arsehole-y thing, you deserve everything you get. I’ve not had this happen to me, but now I’m intrigued that corporations would do this. Technically that employee is committing a battery at the company’s direction. There are some significant issues there. As far as I know, they stopped doing this in department stores in Ny. They hand out small strips of cardboard with the scent, now. I'm surprised they still do this anywhere. This is an overly litigious society and someone is liable to claim that they can't work anymore because of this " assault".
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Post by berkley on Sept 30, 2019 21:38:39 GMT -5
I never knew this was a thing, spraying people with perfume right out of the blue - and yeah, it sounds totally outrageous. I don't blame anyone for blowing up at the sprayer, but I'd much rather see any legal action directed against whatever higher-ups (presumably marketing executives or someone like that) first conceived, then approved, and finally implemented the policy. Like Slam said, whatever the employee is doing is at the company's direction. That doesn't entirely absolve the employee of all responsibility, but those who give the directions bear it to a much greater degree, IMO.
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Post by beccabear67 on Sept 30, 2019 23:49:16 GMT -5
Only ever experienced one incident like those, a large woman on University Ave. in Seattle handing out some coupons involving soup at a restaurant would not let me pass on the already crowded sidewalk. I said loudly twice "I don't want your soup!" She swore at me too for not taking one. Where's that soup guy from Seinfeld when you really need him? "No soup for you!" It still seems very bizarre that this happened. I also had flashbacks of Midnight Cowboy and "I'm walkin' here!" I wonder who ever responds positively to this kind of stuff or being bugged unsolicited on the phone or doorstep... I have never done business on the phone or doorstep! Somebody must or they wouldn't keep doing it... someone also keeps watching all these shows on polygamous house-flipping sharks...
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Oct 1, 2019 16:40:55 GMT -5
Hey, Disney!
If you’re trying to be as authentic as possible when looking for a Jewish actor to play Moon Knight, I’d start by finding actual martial artists to play your martial arts characters. Trust me, it’s much harder to fake.
Of course, it wouldn’t generate as many clicks.
There! I said it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 17:14:12 GMT -5
Hey, Disney! If you’re trying to be as authentic as possible when looking for a Jewish actor to play Moon Knight, I’d start by finding actual martial artists to play your martial arts characters. Trust me, it’s much harder to fake. Of course, it wouldn’t generate as many clicks. There! I said it. I'd much rather have them cast a talented actor who can play the part and use stuntmen to do the martial arts than cast a martial artist who cannot act to play the role (I am looking at someone like Ray Parks here who while slick in the action sequences couldn't act his way out of a paper bag and drags the movie down in any non-action sequence he was a part of). -M
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Oct 1, 2019 18:17:21 GMT -5
Hey, Disney! If you’re trying to be as authentic as possible when looking for a Jewish actor to play Moon Knight, I’d start by finding actual martial artists to play your martial arts characters. Trust me, it’s much harder to fake. Of course, it wouldn’t generate as many clicks. There! I said it. I'd much rather have them cast a talented actor who can play the part and use stuntmen to do the martial arts than cast a martial artist who cannot act to play the role (I am looking at someone like Ray Parks here who while slick in the action sequences couldn't act his way out of a paper bag and drags the movie down in any non-action sequence he was a part of). -M Stuntmen would work, but there is no dearth of actors who actually know something about martial arts. Why is that aspect considered secondary (even when it’s at the very core of characters like Iron Fist) but an actor’s religion is suddenly important? (Rhetorical question, of course. The answer is pretty obvious).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 18:30:07 GMT -5
I'd much rather have them cast a talented actor who can play the part and use stuntmen to do the martial arts than cast a martial artist who cannot act to play the role (I am looking at someone like Ray Parks here who while slick in the action sequences couldn't act his way out of a paper bag and drags the movie down in any non-action sequence he was a part of). -M Stuntmen would work, but there is no dearth of actors who actually know something about martial arts. Why is that aspect considered secondary (even when it’s at the very core of characters like Iron Fist) but an actor’s religion is suddenly important? (Rhetorical question, of course. The answer is pretty obvious). Would you expect a studio doing a biopic of Hank Aaron or Gordie Howe to consider the potential actor's baseball or hockey knowledge or prowess even if it is essential to those characters? Or someone playing Hawkeye or Green Arrow to have to have archery skills? Why would a martial artist casting be any different than that? Those skills are secondary because they are not baseball players, hockey players, archers or martial artists, they are actors playing those things. I wouldn't also expect an actor playing a serial killer to need to be a psychopath to be able to play the role. The very nature of acting is to be able to play something you are not. Sure there are plenty of actors who are martial artists or who have knowledge of martial arts, but I want a standard of acting better than Steven Seagal as the lead in a movie. I'm not sure why someone's religion is suddenly important, and hadn't seen articles pertaining to the Moon Knight casting to see if any kind of rationale is given. I am actually not familiar enough with Moon Knight (I've only read an odd issue here or there outside the Warren Ellis arc over the years) to know what is or isn't central to the character, but in all cases I am more concerned with the ability of the actor to give a quality performance than their authenticity in the physicality of the the role. -M
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Post by The Captain on Oct 1, 2019 18:43:12 GMT -5
Stuntmen would work, but there is no dearth of actors who actually know something about martial arts. Why is that aspect considered secondary (even when it’s at the very core of characters like Iron Fist) but an actor’s religion is suddenly important? (Rhetorical question, of course. The answer is pretty obvious). Would you expect a studio doing a biopic of Hank Aaron or Gordie Howe to consider the potential actor's baseball or hockey knowledge or prowess even if it is essential to those characters? Or someone playing Hawkeye or Green Arrow to have to have archery skills? Why would a martial artist casting be any different than that? Those skills are secondary because they are not baseball players, hockey players, archers or martial artists, they are actors playing those things. I wouldn't also expect an actor playing a serial killer to need to be a psychopath to be able to play the role. The very nature of acting is to be able to play something you are not. Sure there are plenty of actors who are martial artists or who have knowledge of martial arts, but I want a standard of acting better than Steven Seagal as the lead in a movie. I'm not sure why someone's religion is suddenly important, and hadn't seen articles pertaining to the Moon Knight casting to see if any kind of rationale is given. I am actually not familiar enough with Moon Knight (I've only read an odd issue here or there outside the Warren Ellis arc over the years) to know what is or isn't central to the character, but in all cases I am more concerned with the ability of the actor to give a quality performance than their authenticity in the physicality of the the role. -M It's important in the same way that transgender characters should be played ONLY by transgender actors, why gay or lesbian characters should be played ONLY by gay or lesbian actors, why The Ancient One should have been played ONLY by an Asian actor and not Tilda Swinton, why Heimdall should have been played ONLY by a white actor and not Idris Elba, and that reason is... ...because whatever the issue or situation, there is a group out there guaranteed to be offended by the result if it is not to THEIR liking. We live in a society that is perpetually aggrieved by everything, and with social media allowing any individual the opportunity to voice their displeasure with anything they choose, all while gathering like-minded individuals to their crusade, we are crushed by a chorus of constant complaining.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Oct 1, 2019 19:45:22 GMT -5
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Post by thwhtguardian on Oct 1, 2019 20:00:08 GMT -5
Stuntmen would work, but there is no dearth of actors who actually know something about martial arts. Why is that aspect considered secondary (even when it’s at the very core of characters like Iron Fist) but an actor’s religion is suddenly important? (Rhetorical question, of course. The answer is pretty obvious). Would you expect a studio doing a biopic of Hank Aaron or Gordie Howe to consider the potential actor's baseball or hockey knowledge or prowess even if it is essential to those characters? Or someone playing Hawkeye or Green Arrow to have to have archery skills? Why would a martial artist casting be any different than that? Those skills are secondary because they are not baseball players, hockey players, archers or martial artists, they are actors playing those things. I wouldn't also expect an actor playing a serial killer to need to be a psychopath to be able to play the role. The very nature of acting is to be able to play something you are not. Sure there are plenty of actors who are martial artists or who have knowledge of martial arts, but I want a standard of acting better than Steven Seagal as the lead in a movie. I'm not sure why someone's religion is suddenly important, and hadn't seen articles pertaining to the Moon Knight casting to see if any kind of rationale is given. I am actually not familiar enough with Moon Knight (I've only read an odd issue here or there outside the Warren Ellis arc over the years) to know what is or isn't central to the character, but in all cases I am more concerned with the ability of the actor to give a quality performance than their authenticity in the physicality of the the role. -M I think the difference between a sports film and a martial arts film is pretty basic in that you can easily fake a sports skill with movie magic but something like Iron Fist's fight choreography is much too up close to fake well.
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Post by Prince Hal on Oct 1, 2019 21:25:59 GMT -5
Would you expect a studio doing a biopic of Hank Aaron or Gordie Howe to consider the potential actor's baseball or hockey knowledge or prowess even if it is essential to those characters? Or someone playing Hawkeye or Green Arrow to have to have archery skills? Why would a martial artist casting be any different than that? Those skills are secondary because they are not baseball players, hockey players, archers or martial artists, they are actors playing those things. I wouldn't also expect an actor playing a serial killer to need to be a psychopath to be able to play the role. The very nature of acting is to be able to play something you are not. Sure there are plenty of actors who are martial artists or who have knowledge of martial arts, but I want a standard of acting better than Steven Seagal as the lead in a movie. I'm not sure why someone's religion is suddenly important, and hadn't seen articles pertaining to the Moon Knight casting to see if any kind of rationale is given. I am actually not familiar enough with Moon Knight (I've only read an odd issue here or there outside the Warren Ellis arc over the years) to know what is or isn't central to the character, but in all cases I am more concerned with the ability of the actor to give a quality performance than their authenticity in the physicality of the the role. -M I think the difference between a sports film and a martial arts film is pretty basic in that you can easily fake a sports skill with movie magic but something like Iron Fist's fight choreography is much too up close to fake well. I take it you have never seen The Babe Ruth Story with William Bendix.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Oct 2, 2019 11:57:16 GMT -5
People who reheat their fish in the office's microwave oven should have the responsibility to make the air breathable again afterwards.
There! I *COUGH* *COUGH* said it.
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Post by brutalis on Oct 2, 2019 14:07:59 GMT -5
People who reheat their fish in the office's microwave oven should have the responsibility to make the air breathable again afterwards. There! I *COUGH* *COUGH* said it. Same goes for those who bring in Sub Sandwiches with all the fixings and oil/vinegar dressing or Chinese food and toss what is left of it into the office trash can. They should have to be forced to sit in a closed room for a week with that smell until they choke on it!!! There I said it!
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Post by The Captain on Oct 3, 2019 8:46:39 GMT -5
People who reheat their fish in the office's microwave oven should have the responsibility to make the air breathable again afterwards. There! I *COUGH* *COUGH* said it. Years ago, I worked at a tech startup specializing in online reverse auctions, and each floor of our building had two small kitchen areas, one at either end on opposite sides of the building. Each microwave had a sign above it that read: "DO NOT MICROWAVE FISH IN THIS DEVICE. YOU WILL BE FOUND OUT, MOCKED BY ALL, AND FORCED TO STAND AT THE END OF THE BEER LINE ON FRIDAYS. SINCERELY, THE MANAGEMENT, YOUR COWORKERS, AND EVERY PERSON YOU HAVE EVER MET IN YOUR LIFE." No one ever did it, so we never found out just how far things would have gone if someone had.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2019 11:06:23 GMT -5
I used to be in the clerical profession. So I sympathise.
One manager of mine became Draconian (in a good way!) about food. So, you could have a cheese and tomato sandwich at your desk, no problem. But what about fish and chips? Far away from your desk.
Microwaving fish wasn't forbidden, but was frowned upon.
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