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Post by Roquefort Raider on Mar 29, 2016 14:20:57 GMT -5
I agree. However, on social media, I do find it comical sometimes when people use full pictures to describe themselves. I do not see that ever getting old. It has its place, but in general, no, emojis and/or pictures shouldn't replace words. Pictograph languages predate alphabets; Egyptians, Mesopotamians, Meso-Americans, Ancient China,etc. all got along fine with picture languages rather than written words. We are just returning to our roots! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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Post by Mormel on Mar 29, 2016 15:13:26 GMT -5
I agree. However, on social media, I do find it comical sometimes when people use full pictures to describe themselves. I do not see that ever getting old. It has its place, but in general, no, emojis and/or pictures shouldn't replace words. Pictograph languages predate alphabets; Egyptians, Mesopotamians, Meso-Americans, Ancient China,etc. all got along fine with picture languages rather than written words. We are just returning to our roots! -M I realize you're mostly joking, mrp, but from a linguistic standpoint, the use of emoticons/emojis is pretty fascinating, exactly because of the link one can draw between them and logographic scripts. And, of course, some people's overuse of such things just makes you want to strangle that person.  |
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Mar 29, 2016 19:42:59 GMT -5
I was hoping a mod or someone else would intercede and PM Mechagodzilla before his next act of "intellectual theft" but if anyone did , it was ignored. So once again, the same old, same old occurred in his Godzilla Reviews By Mechagodzilla as copied from Wikipedia a bit earlier and I replied pointing out that at least half of it is a copy/paste job (as has all of them as far as I have stomach to look through them)
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Mar 29, 2016 20:10:37 GMT -5
I noticed a few months ago in one of the panels/art/cover threads (not the contest), someone was regularly posting covers from an informative, well-regarded, archived blog. I suppose it has become "fair game" to reproduce what others have curated (though I think credit should be given)....but the poster was also using the blogger's clever commentary nearly word for word, without indicating the source. From what I have noticed, the poster has since stopped that practice of poaching that blogger's commentary and seems to have become more confident in using his own voice. That's good; like Spoon said, we want to hear what our members genuinely think. I have an idea of who it might be everyone is referring to. Sometimes it's better to have mercy on a person who might not have social skills. Yeah, basically my take on this. |
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Post by realjla on Mar 30, 2016 0:48:18 GMT -5
Same here. I've seen some of the posts in question, but they are easily avoided. I also don't happen to be a huge Godzilla fan(always liked Godzooky better ),so less chance of me being irritated by such behavior. If he was one of thos trollish YOUR A LOOSER LOL!!111!! types, it'd be different, but anybody who dislikes copying from another source can just move onto that source, or any of the many threads that he hasn't contributed to. |
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Mar 30, 2016 2:43:54 GMT -5
So let me ask a few questions here about the subject
Is plagiarism acceptable here?
Is it acceptable for certain people only? Only on threads your not interested in? Are there double standards?
Should the mods have sent a PM to the offender once it was pointed out to avoid a public shaming?
I'm much more disappointed in the non-action of the caretakers of this forum for the lack of direction in this matter and just looked the other way. I received no private messages from them as well even though at least 2 of them acknowledged they knew what my gripe was about and only advised I act civilly. However, I think it was their realm as mods to be a bit more pro-active.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Mar 30, 2016 5:50:49 GMT -5
So let me ask a few questions here about the subject Is plagiarism acceptable here? Is it acceptable for certain people only? Only on threads your not interested in? Are there double standards? Should the mods have sent a PM to the offender once it was pointed out to avoid a public shaming? I'm much more disappointed in the non-action of the caretakers of this forum for the lack of direction in this matter and just looked the other way. I received no private messages from them as well even though at least 2 of them acknowledged they knew what my gripe was about and only advised I act civilly. However, I think it was their realm as mods to be a bit more pro-active. The board has no specific rules about plagiarism, ish, and although it is the mods's role to help maintain a civil level of discourse on these boards, it is not their responsibility to prevent people from cutting and pasting material taken from other sources. They might not approve of the practice and might view it as poor form, but they're not editors. Social pressure and the eventuality of public shaming, as you put it, should be enough of a disincentive. I'm curious as to where any double standard would be found. Did mods once call out someone on plagiarism and now refuse to do so? If so, I was unaware of it. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 30, 2016 5:56:00 GMT -5
There is an ignore function on this board. I guess you can also choose not to read those threads. Don't let it make you so angry, man. Someone pointed out that the person isn't a rude guy, that fact can go a long way in showing grace towards him.
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Post by Paste Pot Paul on Mar 30, 2016 7:28:53 GMT -5
[quote source="/post/141531/thread" author="@coldwater " timestamp="1459260282I agree.
However, on social media, I do find it comical sometimes when people use full pictures to describe themselves.
I do not see that ever getting old.
[/quote][/p] That seems very similar to how we are all using different pictures here to identify ourselves in our avatars.
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Post by Paste Pot Paul on Mar 30, 2016 7:30:25 GMT -5
Hmmm I think I deleted too much in my quote  |
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Post by Paste Pot Paul on Mar 30, 2016 7:30:51 GMT -5
Bugger, I emojied
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2016 8:00:36 GMT -5
I think I did not describe what I meant well enough. I mean memes, but sometimes without the words. |
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Post by DE Sinclair on Mar 30, 2016 8:11:00 GMT -5
So let me ask a few questions here about the subject Is plagiarism acceptable here? Is it acceptable for certain people only? Only on threads your not interested in? Are there double standards? Should the mods have sent a PM to the offender once it was pointed out to avoid a public shaming? I'm much more disappointed in the non-action of the caretakers of this forum for the lack of direction in this matter and just looked the other way. I received no private messages from them as well even though at least 2 of them acknowledged they knew what my gripe was about and only advised I act civilly. However, I think it was their realm as mods to be a bit more pro-active. The board has no specific rules about plagiarism, ish, and although it is the mods's role to help maintain a civil level of discourse on these boards, it is not their responsibility to prevent people from cutting and pasting material taken from other sources. They might not approve of the practice and might view it as poor form, but they're not editors. Social pressure and the eventuality of public shaming, as you put it, should be enough of a disincentive. I'm curious as to where any double standard would be found. Did mods once call out someone on plagiarism and now refuse to do so? If so, I was unaware of it. As RR notes, and as I advised you previously, there is no rule on the forum against plagiarism. You may not be aware, but not only are we not compensated in any way for moderating, but we are also frequently in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. If people think we act too much, we're accused of being jack-booted dictators. If they think we act too little, as you claim we did, we're accused of being soft, showing favoritism, or having double-standards.
Our job as mods is to ensure civil conversation and to maintain a family friendly environment. We are not thought police and we are not fact checkers and we can't/won't verify every post to make sure it wasn't copied from somewhere else.
To avoid public shaming, you say we as mods could have PM'd him. To which I would respond, you could have too.
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Mar 30, 2016 9:19:24 GMT -5
So how about having a non plagiarism rule? I mean, it's true that one thinking he was reading Mecha's thoughts would have had a completely misleading experience, which defeats the purpose of a community, doesn't it? I mean, lifting some quotes is something, lifting whole paragraphs is another...
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Post by Paste Pot Paul on Mar 30, 2016 9:20:44 GMT -5
I think I did not describe what I meant well enough. I mean memes, but sometimes without the words. S'alright Miss CW, it just struck me at the time, didn't mean anything by it. |
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