shaxper
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Post by shaxper on Nov 5, 2020 1:08:00 GMT -5
I will say that I put on Innuendo for a bit, and so far it's promising. It's my favorite Queen album. Not their consistently best album, but definitely my personal favorite. If I had to rank my top 5, they'd be: Innuendo The Miracle News of the World Sheer Heart Attack Queen II Anyway, I should go to bed too. To be continued! |
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Post by berkley on Nov 5, 2020 1:13:29 GMT -5
I suppose we should be having this discussion in the music thread, but anyway, all those divas of the last 30 or 40 years - Whitney Houston, Celine Dion, etc - were blessed with tremendous instruments in their voices but to my mind just had the bad luck to be born into an era that saddled with bad taste in regard to that kind of music. I think if they'd been singing anytime up to and including the 60s, they'd have been much better off, creatively (though not financially!)
I think one reason I personally feel out of sympathy with 80s pop is that for much of the decade I was pretty much stuck hearing what was on mainstream radio and didn't have the means or perhaps just didn't try hard enough to explore outside that narrow range. Towards the end of the decade, say from around 1987, I began to discover some of the independent music that was being made - mostly via a couple of really great CBC radio late-night shows that I regret are no longer with us - and tried to go back and hear more of that kind of thing but my knowledge and general "feel" for the decade in pop is still pretty weak.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Nov 5, 2020 6:45:17 GMT -5
I suppose we should be having this discussion in the music thread, (...) I agree. There! I said it. |
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Post by impulse on Nov 5, 2020 9:39:07 GMT -5
I will say that I put on Innuendo for a bit, and so far it's promising. It's my favorite Queen album. Not their consistently best album, but definitely my personal favorite. If I had to rank my top 5, they'd be: Innuendo The Miracle News of the World Sheer Heart Attack Queen II Anyway, I should go to bed too. To be continued! I'll agree with you on News of the World and Sheer Heart Attack. Those might be the only two where I would say I actually enjoy the album as opposed to cherry picking songs I like. I suppose we should be having this discussion in the music thread, but anyway, all those divas of the last 30 or 40 years - Whitney Houston, Celine Dion, etc - were blessed with tremendous instruments in their voices but to my mind just had the bad luck to be born into an era that saddled with bad taste in regard to that kind of music. I think if they'd been singing anytime up to and including the 60s, they'd have been much better off, creatively (though not financially!) I think one reason I personally feel out of sympathy with 80s pop is that for much of the decade I was pretty much stuck hearing what was on mainstream radio and didn't have the means or perhaps just didn't try hard enough to explore outside that narrow range. Towards the end of the decade, say from around 1987, I began to discover some of the independent music that was being made - mostly via a couple of really great CBC radio late-night shows that I regret are no longer with us - and tried to go back and hear more of that kind of thing but my knowledge and general "feel" for the decade in pop is still pretty weak. I agree, Celine and Whitney are mind-bogglingly good singers, but most of their accompaniment is atrocious to my ears. Imagine Whitney in the 60s or 70s. Whew. Yeah, 80s pop is a lot like the fashion, very much a product of its time but ONLY of its time. In terms of music discovery, as an elder Millennial* I came of age right before the transition to digital, so I have experienced the hunting things down in record stores and stalking the radio with a blank cassette in my boombox, but also the birth of digital everything. There are pros and cons to both. The thrill of the hunt and sense of triumph with discovery were great, but man, it's so freaking easy to find more stuff you like now without sinking a ton of time and money. If the powers that be feel the need to move this over, I'll pick it up there when I can. We really can't get past our comic book collector need to have things ordered neatly and in their proper place, can we? 
*my preferred moniker is a member of the Oregon Trail Generation
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2020 10:23:09 GMT -5
I don't care what anyone says, I love Celine's Titanic song.
I was still clinging on to pre-teen angst when Titanic was released late 1997 and I saw it 11 times in the cinema...
For those who haven't seen it, it's about a big ship that hits an iceberg.
There, I said it on a lifeboat.
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Post by impulse on Nov 5, 2020 10:27:29 GMT -5
I don't care what anyone says, I love Celine's Titanic song. I was still clinging on to pre-teen angst when Titanic was released late 1997 and I saw it 11 times in the cinema...
For those who haven't seen it, it's about a big ship that hits an iceberg. There, I said it on a lifeboat.
There are people who haven't seen it? Celine sang the hell out of that song, no doubt. It was impressive the first 362,972 times I heard it...the day it came out. Then it god old...
One of my favorite things about revisiting music that didn't click by bands I like is sometimes you are pleasantly surprised. As of this morning, I'm really digging Queen's first album so far. Up tempo proggy heavy rock is apparently good background music while working.
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Post by junkmonkey on Nov 5, 2020 10:29:42 GMT -5
There are people who haven't seen it?
I haven't. Never felt the need.
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Post by Rob Allen on Nov 5, 2020 10:53:10 GMT -5
There are people who haven't seen it? I haven't. Never felt the need.
Ditto. |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Nov 5, 2020 10:58:29 GMT -5
I haven't. Never felt the need.
Ditto. That makes three of us. |
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Post by Prince Hal on Nov 5, 2020 11:05:02 GMT -5
Re: "Titanic"
The ship sank in 160 minutes, the movie in 194.
I'll take "A Night to Remember"(1958) in which the emphasis is on human beings, not CGI and contrived melodrama.
But that's me.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Nov 5, 2020 11:18:56 GMT -5
Re: "Titanic" The ship sank in 160 minutes, the movie in 194. I'll take "A Night to Remember"(1958) in which the emphasis is on human beings, not CGI and contrived melodrama. But that's me. really made its mark on my impressionable young mind the one time I saw it. That and Sink the Bismarck! No other big boat film will do. I admit that I liked Cameron's Titanic, though. Sure, it was syrupy romance with a hefty dose of "poor people good, rich people bad" morality... but it didn't pretend to be anything else than it was, and it did have spectacular images. Excellent music by James Horner. There was room for two on that raft, though. |
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Post by Prince Hal on Nov 5, 2020 11:37:11 GMT -5
Re: "Titanic" The ship sank in 160 minutes, the movie in 194. I'll take "A Night to Remember"(1958) in which the emphasis is on human beings, not CGI and contrived melodrama. But that's me. really made its mark on my impressionable young mind the one time I saw it. That and Sink the Bismarck! No other big boat film will do. I admit that I liked Cameron's Titanic, though. Sure, it was syrupy romance with a hefty dose of "poor people good, rich people bad" morality... but it didn't pretend to be anything else than it was, and it did have spectacular images. Excellent music by James Horner. There was room for two on that raft, though. You know I don't like to argue, but... I'll give you the scenes that essentially worship the majesty of the the ship that not even God could sink (they would have been better as a documentary), but the Billy Zane and love story stories were just so overblown and cartoonish that they took away from everything else. (And I liked Zane in "The Phantom.") All this IMHO, of course. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2020 11:55:01 GMT -5
I haven't seen Joker yet.
There, I'm not joking about it.
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Post by impulse on Nov 5, 2020 12:08:30 GMT -5
What I liked the most about Titanic is that for the first half, they play up this overly dramatic romance and lay it on thick, and then halfway through, they're like "LOL everybody die now ROFL" and it's just this over the top disaster action catastrophe.
I watched it once about 22 years ago. It was fine. I have not felt an urge to watch it again since. My comment was more on how pervasive and difficult to avoid it was for so long.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2020 12:20:53 GMT -5
There were many things to dislike about Titanic, but the most annoying element for me seems to slip under everybody else's radar - the scenes set in modern times. Nobody's going to argue there was any subtlety to this movie, but I still have a headache from those scenes hitting me over the head. And the performances from the expedition leader and his lackey - so smug and unlikable. They somehow found a way to make me look forward to returning to the main story. Love the Rifftrax take on the movie, though.
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