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Post by berkley on Jan 19, 2021 11:05:50 GMT -5
I don't need a dog at all. Never understood why people keep them around - unless they're trained working dogs there's no need for the things at all. Cats on the other hand kill the rodents which otherwise would invade my house and eat my wiring. That's why I keep one around. That and to, ultimately, teach the kids about loss, the brevity of life, and the meaningless of existence. Re: Rat-killing You’ve obviously never owned a terrier.
Or read Dracula!
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Post by junkmonkey on Jan 19, 2021 16:28:38 GMT -5
I've never owned a terrier but I have read Dracula. I thought it was a dreadfully written book.
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Post by Prince Hal on Jan 19, 2021 17:03:31 GMT -5
I've never read Dracula, but I've owned two terriers. Rats think they are dreadful.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jan 19, 2021 17:30:50 GMT -5
I can't recall if a terrier ever bit Dracula. If one did, it must have thought the taste was dreadful.
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Post by badwolf on Jan 19, 2021 18:12:21 GMT -5
IDK, I blame Stephan Moffat for everything because he's a hack and turned in the show into a quippy, action adventure romance with mild sci-fi elements
He wrote some of the best stories while Russell T. Davies was managing the show, but once he took over...well, it was still good for a while, but he started making bad choices. Peter Capaldi was the last Doctor for me, great in the role but his stories were about 50/50.
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Post by badwolf on Jan 19, 2021 18:15:49 GMT -5
Anyone who thinks cats aren't affectionate should see him with me. With cats, you get out of your relationship with them what you put in. There's none of the unconditional affection that you get with dogs. I've lived with cats my entire life (my Mum even used to foster them for the RSPCA for a while), and I've never known a cat who isn't affectionate or who loves being around people. When I hear people say that cats are unaffectionate and cold I always think that says more about them than it does the cat. Absolutely! I've had four cats and they've all loved being close to me or usually on me. My current boy sleeps in bed with me.
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Post by Prince Hal on Jan 19, 2021 18:57:13 GMT -5
I can't recall if a terrier ever bit Dracula. If one did, it must have thought the taste was dreadful. If a terrier ever attacked Dracula, the over-under on how long Dracula would last would be about a minute and a half. And I'd take the under. I saw Sam, one of my terriers, take out seven (admittedly small) rats in less than a minute. Big ones would have taken him another 30 seconds. Brutal, fast, efficient. My son called him the Navy SEAL of dogs. And unlike a cat, Sam didn't torture his targets and glory smugly in his kills. Like Oliver Twist, he just looked at me as if to say, "Please sir, I want some more." Hard-wired to eliminate vermin. For years after the Slaughter in the Shed, Sam circled that shed every time we went outside making sure none of those damn rates had dared to return. They never did. He was the f**kin' law east of the Cape Cod Canal. In dog language, he said this as those rats tried to escape his fury...
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jan 19, 2021 19:01:28 GMT -5
I can't recall if a terrier ever bit Dracula. If one did, it must have thought the taste was dreadful. If a terrier ever attacked Dracula, the over-under on how long Dracula would last would be about a minute and a half. And I'd take the under. I saw Sam, one of my terriers, take out seven (admittedly small) rats in less than a minute. Big ones would have taken him another 30 seconds. Brutal, fast, efficient. My son called him the Navy SEAL of dogs. And unlike a cat, Sam didn't torture his targets and glory smugly in his kills. Hey, it's an art form! Cats are the Melniboneans of animals!
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Post by berkley on Jan 19, 2021 19:03:36 GMT -5
I can't recall if a terrier ever bit Dracula. If one did, it must have thought the taste was dreadful. No, but there's a scene - I was going to say a famous scene, but maybe it's just one that stuck in my own head - where Arthur and Dr. Seward and the others hunting Dracula want to search an old house they think he's been using, but finding it infested with rats, they bring some terriers along to deal with the vermin.
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Post by Prince Hal on Jan 19, 2021 21:38:41 GMT -5
If a terrier ever attacked Dracula, the over-under on how long Dracula would last would be about a minute and a half. And I'd take the under. I saw Sam, one of my terriers, take out seven (admittedly small) rats in less than a minute. Big ones would have taken him another 30 seconds. Brutal, fast, efficient. My son called him the Navy SEAL of dogs. And unlike a cat, Sam didn't torture his targets and glory smugly in his kills. Hey, it's an art form! Cats are the Melniboneans of animals! Touché!
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Post by junkmonkey on Jan 20, 2021 5:30:54 GMT -5
And unlike a cat, Sam didn't torture his targets and glory smugly in his kills. Like Oliver Twist, he just looked at me as if to say, "Please sir, I want some more." Did he eat them though? My cat/s eat what they kill. Most of it anyway - there's some kind of rubbery jelly bean sized organ inside mice(?) they're not too keen on and manage to spit out and leave lying around in odd places
(That /s is there because my neighbour's cat spends a lot of its time hanging out/sleeping with us)
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Post by Prince Hal on Jan 20, 2021 7:53:47 GMT -5
And unlike a cat, Sam didn't torture his targets and glory smugly in his kills. Like Oliver Twist, he just looked at me as if to say, "Please sir, I want some more." Did he eat them though? My cat/s eat what they kill. Most of it anyway - there's some kind of rubbery jelly bean sized organ inside mice(?) they're not too keen on and manage to spit out and leave lying around in odd places
(That /s is there because my neighbour's cat spends a lot of its time hanging out/sleeping with us)
No, he was a killer, not a gourmet.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jan 22, 2021 12:01:55 GMT -5
The movie The Great Train Robbery (aka The First Great Train Robbery), with Sean Connery, includes scenes involving "ratting," where people bet on how many rats a terrier would kill within a certain time period. Connery's character is trying to copy a set of keys to a train safe, that will carry gold, to pay the army, in the Crimea. One of the keys is in the possession of a man who appeared to have no vices, until they discover he breeds terriers for ratting. It gets graphic enough to get the point across.
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Post by junkmonkey on Jan 22, 2021 17:20:33 GMT -5
The movie The Great Train Robbery (aka The First Great Train Robbery), with Sean Connery, includes scenes involving "ratting," where people bet on how many rats a terrier would kill within a certain time period. Connery's character is trying to copy a set of keys to a train safe, that will carry gold, to pay the army, in the Crimea. One of the keys is in the possession of a man who appeared to have no vices, until they discover he breeds terriers for ratting. It gets graphic enough to get the point across. And it's a cracking little movie too. I watched it a few weeks ago with my son who was totally enamoured.
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Post by berkley on Jan 22, 2021 19:18:42 GMT -5
I remember the Michael Crichton book being a good read when I was young.
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