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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 10:23:54 GMT -5
Nope, couldn't stand Raymond either. But I'll go one step further and say I can't stand Seinfeld either. I just don't find him or the show funny. There, I said it. BUT I LOVE SEINFELD. |
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Post by Cei-U! on Feb 10, 2016 12:33:39 GMT -5
Nope, couldn't stand Raymond either. But I'll go one step further and say I can't stand Seinfeld either. I just don't find him or the show funny. There, I said it. I never got Seinfeld either. They were all such horrible people. I'm indifferent to Everybody Loves Raymond, as I am to all family-centered sitcoms and have been since my early childhood when we had to suffer through dreary crap like Father Knows Best and My Three Sons if we wanted to see Wonderful World of Disney that week. Cei-U! My scars run deep! |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Feb 10, 2016 12:37:13 GMT -5
I liked Seinfeld for the first couple of seasons before it got to be a mega-hit. It just got old fast. And, yeah...there are absolutely no characters in it with any redeeming qualities.
I'll agree with Kurt in that I'm pretty indifferent to family centered sit-coms. I do love All in the Family, but that's the exception.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 13:00:31 GMT -5
I STILL LOVE SEINFELD.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 13:12:15 GMT -5
Me too. It's one of my favorite shows and I still never get tired of it having seen many episodes multiple times. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 13:41:34 GMT -5
I love Seinfeld so much that I even watch the same re-runs 12 times just for laugh!
My Favorite Show is the Golf Ball One ... here's the clip!
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Post by Nowhere Man on Feb 10, 2016 15:03:06 GMT -5
Seinfeld was innovative mainly in that there was no sentiment to those characters. They never learned a lesson, never had any sappy moments, never had serious or meaningful relationships with others, and so on. Of course this only worked because it was a brilliantly written comedy. I think if you look at Seinfeld as a borderline surrealistic comedy with more in common with The Simpsons than, say, Taxi or Cheers, it works better conceptually.
Take the running gag/relationship between Jerry and Newman. It's never once explained WHY they hate each other. They just do. This is a sly nod to the old comic book superhero/supervillain dynamic. "Newman!" then Jerry clinches his fist over-dramatically. Clever aspects like this is why the show is so hilarious to me. Of course I also think that Jerry Stiller's Frank Costanza is the funniest character in the history of television.
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Post by DE Sinclair on Feb 10, 2016 15:28:29 GMT -5
Seinfeld was innovative mainly in that there was no sentiment to those characters. They never learned a lesson, never had any sappy moments, never had serious or meaning relationships with other, and so on. Of course this only worked because it was a brilliantly written comedy. I think if you look at Seinfeld as a borderline surrealistic comedy with more in common with The Simpsons than, say, Taxi or Cheers, it works better conceptually. Take the running gag/relationship between Jerry and Newman. It's never once explained WHY they hate each other. They just do. This is a sly nod to the old comic book superhero/supervillain dynamic. "Newman!" then Jerry clinches his fist over-dramatically. Clever aspects like this is why the show is so hilarious to me. Of course I also think that Jerry Stiller's George Costanza is the funniest character in the history of television. I'll grant that they were successful in creating characters to which there was no sentiment attached. However, if I want to hang out for a half hour with unlikeable people who annoyed me, I'd just go to WalMart.
I've tried it, I've seen the clips that people say are brilliantly funny, and it just doesn't work for me. For those of you who love it, you certainly are in the majority.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 15:44:32 GMT -5
I have taken pics of my brother's Costanza wallet.
A lot of men I know have a Costanza wallet. And you all make fun of us ladies who carry around so much stuff in our large purses. lol.
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Post by Cei-U! on Feb 10, 2016 16:21:48 GMT -5
I liked Seinfeld for the first couple of seasons before it got to be a mega-hit. It just got old fast. And, yeah...there are absolutely no characters in it with any redeeming qualities. I'll agree with Kurt in that I'm pretty indifferent to family centered sit-coms. I do love All in the Family, but that's the exception. Yeah, AitF was great. I'd also make exceptions for Soap and Arrested Development. Cei-U! Stifle yerself, lightning, hah? |
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 10, 2016 17:50:12 GMT -5
But I'll go one step further and say I can't stand Seinfeld either. I just don't find him or the show funny. There, I said it. It's funny but I loved Seinfeld when it was new. Now I watch it and find the characters terrible, selfish people. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 17:51:25 GMT -5
But I'll go one step further and say I can't stand Seinfeld either. I just don't find him or the show funny. There, I said it. It's funny but I loved Seinfeld when it was new. Now I watch it and find the characters terrible, selfish people. They ARE. And that is why it is HILARIOUS. They're horrible people. Doesn't mean I'd be besties with them if they were real people. But I can enjoy and laugh at them in my fiction.  |
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 10, 2016 17:54:44 GMT -5
Seinfeld was innovative mainly in that there was no sentiment to those characters. They never learned a lesson, never had any sappy moments, never had serious or meaningful relationships with others, and so on. Of course this only worked because it was a brilliantly written comedy. I think if you look at Seinfeld as a borderline surrealistic comedy with more in common with The Simpsons than, say, Taxi or Cheers, it works better conceptually. Take the running gag/relationship between Jerry and Newman. It's never once explained WHY they hate each other. They just do. This is a sly nod to the old comic book superhero/supervillain dynamic. "Newman!" then Jerry clinches his fist over-dramatically. Clever aspects like this is why the show is so hilarious to me. Of course I also think that Jerry Stiller's Frank Costanza is the funniest character in the history of television. Very well put. There were Nice original moments in this show never seen in TV like "the Contest" and when George does the opposite and achieves success in his life. |
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Post by realjla on Feb 10, 2016 18:09:15 GMT -5
I don't like any of the characters from 'Everybody Loves Raymond', based on the handful of episodes I've tried watching. Maybe I'd make an exception for Peter Boyle as Ray's dad, but even Doris Roberts, who I liked in other shows, was too much of a bitch. Not as much of a bitch as Ray's wife, however. And as for Brad Garrett as the brother, that guy plays the 'slow-witted but loveable oaf' a bit too well for me to think he's acting.
My impression of Garrett in any episode of 'Raymond'.
"Uhhhhh...Everybody thinks I'm STUUUUU-pid. You ALL think I'm STUUUU-pid. I'm going home cuz I guess I'm just STUUUUUU-pid like that."
As for 'Seinfeld': I never watched it while it was in first-run. I picked up enough of everyone's 'unlikability' through the ads and promos, and didn't bother with it.
A few years ago, I watched one, and found it less awful than I expected. I've found that watching in very small doses, spaced a long way apart, works.
But WHAAAAAT is the DEEEEAL with Jerry and his YELLING the PUUUUNCH LIIIIINES with a RIIIIISING INFLEEEEECTION? I HAAAATE THAAAT!
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Feb 10, 2016 19:40:32 GMT -5
I never in a zillion years would have thought that the Cover Contest would be the most controversial thread on this site.
There, I said it!!
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