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Post by fanboystranger on Jul 10, 2014 16:53:46 GMT -5
I said this before on the old boards but I'll say it again: I like Bulanadi's inks over Kane, certainly more than I like Gil's self-inking. I also thought the finishes Bulanadi did over Bob Budiansky's pencils on the 1984 Sub-Mariner mini-series were stunning. Cei-U! I summon the dissenting opinion! Fair enough. I remember you liking those issues of Micronauts.
I believe I stated on the old board that I did like Danny B's inks on David Mazzuchelli when he first started drawing Daredevil.
So here's a little love for Danny Bulanadi on a Thursday afternoon!
I always liked Bulandi's inks over Paul Ryan's pencils. A little bit later in the '80s, but solid stuff on DP7 and Quasar. |
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Post by hondobrode on Jul 10, 2014 18:00:50 GMT -5
That's a legendary Legion story and Oliver Coipel is just getting into his style. DnA is a must buy for me. Even there not so hot stuff you can still see the good in it. The only thing of theirs that's just ok for me and not so hot is Resurrection Man. Ok, but I could live without it. The first RM series, or the second? The first is fantastic, in my opinion, although DC really screwed the pooch with the collection. The second was pretty good, but not on the same level as the first series. To be fair, I've only read a couple of the original, bit v2 # 1-8 and it was ok but I wouldn't buy them again. |
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Post by Action Ace on Jul 10, 2014 19:11:48 GMT -5
I'll be the dissenter and say I really disliked the DnA Legion era. Coipel's art was also an utter catastrophe. It would rank as my second least favorite Legion run of all time after the "5 Year Gap" era. However, the recent New 52 run gave it a good run for its money.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 10, 2014 19:12:43 GMT -5
I read the 1st trade (Newly released) of American Flagg... meh. Perhaps I'm spoiled, but while the art was excellent, the story and dialogue seemed just a pale imitation (though, obviously, precursor is what it is) of Transmet.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2014 19:56:34 GMT -5
I'll be the dissenter and say I really disliked the DnA Legion era. Coipel's art was also an utter catastrophe. It would rank as my second least favorite Legion run of all time after the "5 Year Gap" era. However, the recent New 52 run gave it a good run for its money. I'm a Legion devotee and I don't understand the love for the 5 Years Later series. The New 52 book was inexplicably bad considering Levitz had just finished one of my favorite Legion runs right before it. I don't understand what happened |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2014 19:58:24 GMT -5
I read the 1st trade (Newly released) of American Flagg... meh. Perhaps I'm spoiled, but while the art was excellent, the story and dialogue seemed just a pale imitation (though, obviously, precursor is what it is) of Transmet. Yeah, I think you have to consider how groundbreaking it was at the time. So many creators have borrowed from it that it seems average now |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 10, 2014 23:22:26 GMT -5
I read the 1st trade (Newly released) of American Flagg... meh. Perhaps I'm spoiled, but while the art was excellent, the story and dialogue seemed just a pale imitation (though, obviously, precursor is what it is) of Transmet. Yeah, I think you have to consider how groundbreaking it was at the time. So many creators have borrowed from it that it seems average now Oh, definitely. I can easily see the that it's influenced alot of other stuff. I just don't think the actual story aged that well. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2014 23:26:42 GMT -5
Yeah, I think you have to consider how groundbreaking it was at the time. So many creators have borrowed from it that it seems average now Oh, definitely. I can easily see the that it's influenced alot of other stuff. I just don't think the actual story aged that well. I agree |
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Post by fanboystranger on Jul 11, 2014 9:18:43 GMT -5
I read the 1st trade (Newly released) of American Flagg... meh. Perhaps I'm spoiled, but while the art was excellent, the story and dialogue seemed just a pale imitation (though, obviously, precursor is what it is) of Transmet. Transmet is the pale imitation of AF!. Ellis has always listed AF! as one of his major influences.
I feel the first year of AF! has more story than the entirty of Transmet.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 11, 2014 9:26:10 GMT -5
I read the 1st trade (Newly released) of American Flagg... meh. Perhaps I'm spoiled, but while the art was excellent, the story and dialogue seemed just a pale imitation (though, obviously, precursor is what it is) of Transmet. Transmet is the pale imitation of AF!. Ellis has always listed AF! as one of his major influences.
I feel the first year of AF! has more story than the entirty of Transmet.
Well, it's been a while since I read Transmet, but I definitely have fonder memories of it than that. It's quite clear AF! was an inspiration, certainly... the similarities are quite obvious. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying AF! was bad, it just... wasn't the best thing ever. I find that's often the case when reading 'classics'... in alot of cases, things that come after it are able to build on and improve ground breaking ideas.... when you read the later ones first, the classics can pale in comparison. |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 11, 2014 10:04:20 GMT -5
Transmet is the pale imitation of AF!. Ellis has always listed AF! as one of his major influences.
I feel the first year of AF! has more story than the entirty of Transmet.
Well, it's been a while since I read Transmet, but I definitely have fonder memories of it than that. It's quite clear AF! was an inspiration, certainly... the similarities are quite obvious. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying AF! was bad, it just... wasn't the best thing ever. I find that's often the case when reading 'classics'... in a lot of cases, things that come after it are able to build on and improve ground breaking ideas.... when you read the later ones first, the classics can pale in comparison. Fair enough, but even keeping that in mind I find Chaykin's writing much more mature, amusing and iconoclastic than Ellis's. Perhaps it's the age thing: the references to the soviet union and socialism in general strike a chord in me. I also read Transmet first... or at least I started. I lost interest pretty fast. |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 11, 2014 10:08:27 GMT -5
I'll be the dissenter and say I really disliked the DnA Legion era. Coipel's art was also an utter catastrophe. It would rank as my second least favorite Legion run of all time after the "5 Year Gap" era. However, the recent New 52 run gave it a good run for its money. I feel like the Bizarro Action Ace!  Coipel's Legion is my second-favorite after the 5 year gap, and I thoroughly disliked what I saw of the Nu52 Legion. If a poll was taken with only the two of us, DC would conclude that fans have no opinion whatsoever on the subject! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2014 10:22:34 GMT -5
Well, it's been a while since I read Transmet, but I definitely have fonder memories of it than that. It's quite clear AF! was an inspiration, certainly... the similarities are quite obvious. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying AF! was bad, it just... wasn't the best thing ever. I find that's often the case when reading 'classics'... in a lot of cases, things that come after it are able to build on and improve ground breaking ideas.... when you read the later ones first, the classics can pale in comparison. Fair enough, but even keeping that in mind I find Chaykin's writing much more mature, amusing and iconoclastic than Ellis's. Perhaps it's the age thing: the references to the soviet union and socialism in general strike a chord in me. I also read Transmet first... or at least I started. I lost interest pretty fast. I recently had my favorite convention conversation ever with Chaykin at the London con. I'm a full-on devotee ever since. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2014 10:26:49 GMT -5
I recently got a bunch of the Neal Adams era Detective Comics, intending to read his stuff, but found myself loving the Gil Kane Batgirl backups so much more. Charming and wacky stories
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Post by thebeastofyuccaflats on Jul 11, 2014 14:01:04 GMT -5
-Top 10 (my new Absolute Edition)
-James Robinson & Phil Elliot's Illegal Alien, on loan from a friend
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