Crimebuster
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Post by Crimebuster on Jul 15, 2015 9:00:57 GMT -5
I've been reading through my Marvel Firsts The 1970s volumes, specifically the genres I never really had much use for during the 70s (Westerns in particular), and really liked the first issue of Gunhawks. Enough to want to see how the rest of the short series played out, but......how? Short of hitting up ebay and chasing down the individual issues, there aren't any obvious options (they don't appear to be available digitally). Very frustrating. I have the whole run, I just haven't read it yet. Once I do I can tell you what happens, though that's obviously not quite the same as actually reading them yourself.
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Post by terence1965 on Jul 15, 2015 9:30:34 GMT -5
I've been reading through my Marvel Firsts The 1970s volumes, specifically the genres I never really had much use for during the 70s (Westerns in particular), and really liked the first issue of Gunhawks. Enough to want to see how the rest of the short series played out, but......how? Short of hitting up ebay and chasing down the individual issues, there aren't any obvious options (they don't appear to be available digitally). Very frustrating. I have the whole run, I just haven't read it yet. Once I do I can tell you what happens, though that's obviously not quite the same as actually reading them yourself. Cheers Scott. As nice as those Marvel Firsts volumes are, there is that problem with some of the more esoteric series in not being able follow through with the rest of the runs in some kind of readily available format. Perhaps if some kind Film Studio options Gunhawks, they'll get digitised
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Post by DE Sinclair on Jul 15, 2015 10:24:44 GMT -5
I have the whole run, I just haven't read it yet. Once I do I can tell you what happens, though that's obviously not quite the same as actually reading them yourself. Cheers Scott. As nice as those Marvel Firsts volumes are, there is that problem with some of the more esoteric series in not being able follow through with the rest of the runs in some kind of readily available format. Perhaps if some kind Film Studio options Gunhawks, they'll get digitised I looked it up and it looks like there's only 7 issues. MyComicShop only has three of them (and one of them is slabbed going for almost $90), but a quick search on Ebay found all seven available with several available for about a buck or two (plus shipping). You could put a full run together in pretty short order, and not too expensively.
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Post by terence1965 on Jul 15, 2015 10:50:34 GMT -5
Cheers Scott. As nice as those Marvel Firsts volumes are, there is that problem with some of the more esoteric series in not being able follow through with the rest of the runs in some kind of readily available format. Perhaps if some kind Film Studio options Gunhawks, they'll get digitised I looked it up and it looks like there's only 7 issues. MyComicShop only has three of them (and one of them is slabbed going for almost $90), but a quick search on Ebay found all seven available with several available for about a buck or two (plus shipping). You could put a full run together in pretty short order, and not too expensively. Ah, if only I resided in the great US On Ebay UK, not so much....a quick search only only found 2, 3, 4 and 6, for an average of 5 quid each (inc. p&p).
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Jul 15, 2015 16:24:03 GMT -5
Reading FF #113 right now...
Question. Does the Watcher ever have a real moment in comics? Like a story arc or contribution to the MTU? He stops by to deliver a message and this issue and I have only ever seen him on a few other FF covers from the late 70's/80's so I did not know if any writer ever tried to do anything interesting with his character.
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Post by Crimebuster on Jul 15, 2015 17:03:51 GMT -5
Reading FF #113 right now... Question. Does the Watcher ever have a real moment in comics? Like a story arc or contribution to the MTU? He stops by to deliver a message and this issue and I have only ever seen him on a few other FF covers from the late 70's/80's so I did not know if any writer ever tried to do anything interesting with his character. Mark Gruenwald did some stuff with the Watchers in Quasar. There was a storyline where the Watchers realized that watching an experiment affects the outcome - aka the Observer Effect - so they decide en masse to kill themselves in order to be true to their oath. Uatu, who clearly doesn't seem to care much about his oath anyway, enlists Quasar to try and stop this self-genocide.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jul 15, 2015 18:36:20 GMT -5
Mate it surprised the hell out of me too, I've tried reading his X-Men stuff and was truly unimpressed, and while nothing spectacular I didnt mind these. The Johns books were average, nothing like the work he would go on to do on Green Lantern(which I really enjoyed). However, the Busiek run started out good through to the Ultron story @ 20 or so, but became a real chore after that, and I couldnt be bothered finishing the last arc. Normally I like his stuff, Avengers Forever is a favourite of mine, but the use of Triathlon for so long, as well as the awful animal woman whose name eludes me, and the whole plotline around the Triune thingymabob BORED ME TO TEARS. Hated Triathlon when I first bought the books, hate him now. Sorry Kurt. Oh yeah, totally with you. "Here are some Avengers comics that are more or less exactly like Avengers comics you've already read!" Actually, on reflection, I uniformly dislike all of Kurt Busiek's work for Marvel - give or take an issue here and there - and like-to-adore everything else he's written.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 15, 2015 21:47:35 GMT -5
I guess I can see where you're coming from, though the promotion of Justice and Firestar in Busiek's team was, IMO, unique to his incarnation, and he handled Scarlet Witch better than anyone.
I totally disagree about Thunderbolts though... that was totally unique and really, really good.
IIRC, he's also the first one to do the 'Armor is Sentient' story in Iron Man that now happens every six months.
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Post by fanboystranger on Jul 15, 2015 22:13:51 GMT -5
Reading FF #113 right now... Question. Does the Watcher ever have a real moment in comics? Like a story arc or contribution to the MTU? He stops by to deliver a message and this issue and I have only ever seen him on a few other FF covers from the late 70's/80's so I did not know if any writer ever tried to do anything interesting with his character. There's some stuff in DeFalco's FF. Not saying it's good, but he used the Watchers quite a bit leading into FF 400.
The Earth X stories, too, I guess.
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Post by Hoosier X on Jul 15, 2015 22:47:30 GMT -5
Reading FF #113 right now... Question. Does the Watcher ever have a real moment in comics? Like a story arc or contribution to the MTU? He stops by to deliver a message and this issue and I have only ever seen him on a few other FF covers from the late 70's/80's so I did not know if any writer ever tried to do anything interesting with his character. Well, there's the Trial of the Watcher in Captain Marvel #38 and #39. (I think.) I remember that as being pretty cool. I haven't read it in a long time. I think I still have it ...
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Post by richardwrite on Jul 18, 2015 7:59:48 GMT -5
Continuing on my "Year Before" project, in which I read a year's worth of Marvel comics that covered the 12 months prior to my first month of reading them (I started July 1975, so I'm reading July 1974 to June 1975)....
This week I only managed to get two books..... Captain America and the Falcon 178 by Steve Engelhard and Sal Buscema. I see that Marvel was already experimenting with the "Cap quits" idea back then. Still it was nice seeing The Falcon get some serious time versus "Lucifer.". Interesting concept that a "villain," Lucifer was manifested in two people's bodies simultaneously. An okay story.
....Much better was Amazing Spiderman 138, in which Spidey again takes on the Harry Osborn version of the Green Goblin. Harry tells the police at the end that Peter Parker is Spiderman, and when they ask how he knows, he says "Because I'm the Green Goblin." And of course, this shoots his credibility in their eyes. This really reminded me of the end of Batman Forever, in which Jim Carrey's Riddled says he knows who Batman is...... and then says it's him. Oh this one was by Gerry Conway and Ross Andrus (one of my favorite Spider-man artists, because his characters such as Pete and MJ and Aunt May looked so traditional, as defined by John Tomita's classic looks.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 18, 2015 14:22:17 GMT -5
It's funny how Lucifer trickled down the power scale... he started with the X-Men, then ended up working through Iron Man, Cap, even Daredevil, IIRC.
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Post by The Cheat on Jul 18, 2015 16:12:52 GMT -5
Speaking of Lucifer, I just finished up the Vertigo series. Obviously not in the same league as Sandman, but very enjoyable regardless. Good enough that I'll probably check out The Unwritten at some point. Quick brain dump now with Phalanx Covenant and Annihilation: Conquest while I recharge, then onwards to tackle Arkwright Integral
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 18, 2015 16:34:01 GMT -5
Lucifer was great... I liked it better than Sandman, myself. I know it's not as deep, but I thought it was a better story overall.
The Unwritten I liked at the beginning, but it kinda collapsed into itself as it went on, and I ended up dropping in a little past 1/2 way through.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2015 0:15:30 GMT -5
If you liked Carey's work on Lucifer, I would recommend checking out the Felix Castors series of prose novels he wrote (there are 4 or 5 of them)-Castor is an exorcist in a world where the spirits of the dead are mysteriously coming back, and one of his earliest cases he accidentally trapped Asmodeus in the body of one of his best friends while trying to exorcise him, an act that started a domino effect in Castor's life that runs through all of the novels. Sor tof a bit of Dresden Files meets Carey's Vertigo stuff, but good reads all around.
-M
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