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Post by dbutler69 on Apr 5, 2016 8:30:34 GMT -5
I read a couple more Marvel Comics Presents serials. First, I read the "Black Shadow! White Shadow!" Wolverine story by Marv Wolfman and John Buscema (MCP #38-47). The main draw here is John Buscema's art. I've heard that Buscema preferred other genres (like sword & sorcery) over super-hero work. That makes the Patch-era Wolverine an interesting super-hero for Buscema to work on. But actually, unlike early issues of Wolverine's eponymous ongoing in which Logan tends to wear civvies or a utilitarian black outfit, here he wears his brown costume. The bad part is that some of the characters slightly like orientalist stereotypes. Then again, Buscema's thugs of any race tend to look grimy. It's interesting to see someone other than the usual suspects write an X-Men story in this era, but Wolfman's writing here is just average. It seems writers struggle with pacing out these 8-page MCP installments. With 80 pages total over 10 installments, there should be greater character development and plotting intricacy. Instead, a lot of the chapters feel like they could be interchangeable. Next, I read a Hercules 3-parter written and drawn by Bob Layton from MCP #39-41. It's apparently the sequel to miniseries. Hercules is a space monarch in the future. I guess it makes sense that he's still around because he's a demigod. Hercules can be a great character when he's well-written (like by Roger Stern). Unfortunately, this sits with the majority of Hercules stories that I don't like. The drama doesn't build and I really don't care about the characters. I loved the Bob Layton Hercules miniseries's (both of them, but especially the first one) and didn't realize that there was some sort of sequel. I'll have to brave your negative review and check it out.
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Post by shaxper on Apr 5, 2016 10:08:50 GMT -5
P.S. when i get notification that someone replied to me and i click on it,why do i have to scrool the whole page to find the thread :/ Not sure I understand you, here. After a few more posts, you'll have the ability to start your own threads, such as "All Things Darkseid" or what have you. Hopefully we can be of help to you here
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Post by Batflunkie on Apr 5, 2016 10:42:07 GMT -5
Tomar-Re? He was always my favorite GL, at least until Kilowog came along. I do love creative sci-fi concepts like that, also. I really loved how Tomar-Re was portrayed in the 2011 movie, same with Kilowog and Sinestro
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 15:35:10 GMT -5
Currently re reading 70's Justice League & Avengers books.
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Post by Spike-X on Apr 5, 2016 16:35:20 GMT -5
Okay so i am new to the comics game. I mean i knew about the characters but was not fully aware about the backstory and origins and what they have been through.I just recent researched about Good Ol' Darkseid and found that there is so much more to him than just being a powerful villain to Justice league or superman.His fight against Orion, wars against new genesis, exchange of sons, fact that Matron suggested the exchange of sons,his continous involvement to invade earth and recent Darkseid War storyline Is he really dead after the God of Death Flash rips a hole thorugh him You really should read the Jack Kirby Fourth World comics. That's where these characters first appear.
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Post by sudeepshrest on Apr 5, 2016 22:14:47 GMT -5
You really should read the Jack Kirby Fourth World comics. That's where these characters first appear. yeah that is where I read about Orion and new gods origin
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Apr 6, 2016 16:51:39 GMT -5
Cosmic Odyssey is also a great story featuring DC heroes and the New Gods and Darksied. One of my favorite cosmic stories (especially as Marvel's cosmic characters have always been more entertaining for me, makes it a large compliment to DC) and Mike Mignola art. And probably one of the more well known defining moments of GL John Stewart.
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Post by Batflunkie on Apr 14, 2016 19:43:39 GMT -5
Catwoman Volume 2 (1993) #5, kind of always been interested in Catwoman as a character, but wasn't entirely sure if that would translate into liking a comic based solely around her exploits. But I was proved wrong yet again
I really don't know why I'm so interested/invested in a good chunk the Batman character spinoff books (Azrael, Talon, Red Hood, Cassandra Cain era Batgirl) when the appeal of the main duo (Detective and Batman) eludes me
Might give Robin (1991-2009) a shot later as well because of the fact that Tim Drake is the star attraction and because I love Red Hood & The Outlaws/Red Hood - Arsenal
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Post by String on Apr 15, 2016 18:22:08 GMT -5
Might give Robin (1991-2009) a shot later as well because of the fact that Tim Drake is the star attraction and because I love Red Hood & The Outlaws/Red Hood - Arsenal I loved his solo title, Tim because of his abilities and temperament is my favorite Robin. Dixon and Lyle crafted some strong stories around him and DC has recently begun reprinting new editions of his solo adventures in trade. Triumph & Torment with Strange and Doom......wow, just wow, epic and stunning, now easily within the Top 10 Marvel stories that I've ever read.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Apr 15, 2016 19:47:11 GMT -5
Catwoman Volume 2 (1993) #5, kind of always been interested in Catwoman as a character, but wasn't entirely sure if that would translate into liking a comic based solely around her exploits. But I was proved wrong yet again I really don't know why I'm so interested/invested in a good chunk the Batman character spinoff books (Azrael, Talon, Red Hood, Cassandra Cain era Batgirl) when the appeal of the main duo (Detective and Batman) eludes me Might give Robin (1991-2009) a shot later as well because of the fact that Tim Drake is the star attraction and because I love Red Hood & The Outlaws/Red Hood - Arsenal Honestly, I liked pretty much all the Batman spin-off books in the '90s. Fun character based never too grim 'n gritty stuff. (I mean, I haven't read Azrael. Let's not go crazy here.)
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Apr 15, 2016 19:55:17 GMT -5
Reading through Captain Marvel III (the first Marvel version) # 10-15. (A) This is absolutely my favorite work that Don Heck has done on superheroes - it's pretty Colan-esque with a tech of Steranko thrown in their, but it's great. Trippy/slanted panel borders and big Kirby action. (B) I have not been impressed by the rest of Arnold Drake's Marvel work, but he's Doom Patrol good here. A nice mix of cosmic trippiness and pathos with a hero who is constantly reinventing himself. (C) He doesn't have much of a reputation today, but OH MY GOD Tom Sutton is just crushing it here! So, so, so great.
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Post by spoon on Apr 15, 2016 20:06:47 GMT -5
I'm bouncing back and forth between two TPBs right now.
I'm reading The Amazing Spider-Man: The Saga of the Alien Costume (reprinting #252-260). I've previously read this TPB, but I'm following up on the Amazing Spider-Man reading that I did in March, when I read Essential vol. 11, plus floppies of the issues that fall between these two Spidey TPBs. It's fascinating to see so many bystanders and villains don't recognize Spidey in his new black costume. It emphasizes how longstanding the classic red-and-blue was. It's painful to read the scenes about Peter's falling out with Aunt May about dropping out of grad school.
The other one I'm reading now is Essential Luke Cage vol. 2. I've read a handful of issues; a lot of it is tedious. Luke fights some boring villains, I'm not a fan of the Frank Robbins art in some issues, and Don McGregor can sometimes get too wordy. But #32, an issue about efforts to drive a black family out of a neighborhood, is really well-done. I'm not certain the script ever explicitly mentions race as motivation (maybe it does once or twice). Also, McGregor's wordiness is sometimes used to good effect: "Normally, when you are hit in the mouth, several unpleasant things occur. First, your head pounds a John Philip Sousa march, complete with crashing cymbals. Second, your vision creates award-winning abstract paintings."
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Post by dupersuper on Apr 15, 2016 20:59:31 GMT -5
Catwoman Volume 2 (1993) #5, kind of always been interested in Catwoman as a character, but wasn't entirely sure if that would translate into liking a comic based solely around her exploits. But I was proved wrong yet again I really don't know why I'm so interested/invested in a good chunk the Batman character spinoff books (Azrael, Talon, Red Hood, Cassandra Cain era Batgirl) when the appeal of the main duo (Detective and Batman) eludes me Might give Robin (1991-2009) a shot later as well because of the fact that Tim Drake is the star attraction and because I love Red Hood & The Outlaws/Red Hood - Arsenal Honestly, I liked pretty much all the Batman spin-off books in the '90s. Fun character based never too grim 'n gritty stuff. (I mean, I haven't read Azrael. Let's not go crazy here.) I liked Azrael 1,000,000...
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Post by Batflunkie on Apr 15, 2016 21:53:43 GMT -5
(I mean, I haven't read Azrael. Let's not go crazy here.) It's basically about this college kid who gets swept up his family's bloodline of devout fellowship to the Order Of Saint Dumas. After he's sufficiently brainwashed, he takes on his late father's mantle of Azazel, the Templar Angel Of Vengeance. Then of course, he becomes the new Batman after Bane shatter's Bruce's spine IDK, just always thought it was an interesting concept
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2016 22:57:41 GMT -5
Might give Robin (1991-2009) a shot later as well because of the fact that Tim Drake is the star attraction and because I love Red Hood & The Outlaws/Red Hood - Arsenal I loved his solo title, Tim because of his abilities and temperament is my favorite Robin. Dixon and Lyle crafted some strong stories around him and DC has recently begun reprinting new editions of his solo adventures in trade. Triumph & Torment with Strange and Doom......wow, just wow, epic and stunning, now easily within the Top 10 Marvel stories that I've ever read. Triumph & Torment is my second favorite Doc story (the Quest for Eternity by Lee/Ditko is still tops in my books, T&T just nudges out some of the Englehart/Brunner stuff). Stern and Mignola make for a dynamic pairing on Doc. -M
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