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Post by Batflunkie on Mar 16, 2017 8:43:15 GMT -5
After binge-reading almost all of Percy's Green Arrow Rebirth in an attempt to catch up, I decided to go back to Mike Grell's own "Rebirth" of Ollie. One thing that I always liked about Grell's take on the character is that if felt like a very natural continuation of Ollie from his Green Lantern/Green Arrow days (which I didn't know until sometime later that Grell actually worked on). Grell writes Ollie as very human character that "stalks human predators" (weirdly enough, Grell's Arrow came out around the same time as Ostrander's Manhunter, which went so far as to use that as an actual tag-line) and I think it's that inherent "humanity" that's always made Ollie, to me personally at least, far more relatable and enjoyable than Bruce Wayne
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Post by Spike-X on Mar 16, 2017 14:24:10 GMT -5
So I guess we can add 'Super plastic surgery' to Pre-Crisis Superman's list of powers? Sure, because way back in Lois Lane #12, the Surgeon of Steel earned a doctorate in every known medical specialty. It was the only wy the AMA would let him operate on Lois, who'd been transformed into a mermaid. Cei-U! Y'know, it's not always easy to report this stuff with a straight face! Well, there you go.
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Post by urrutiap on Mar 16, 2017 14:45:36 GMT -5
Late last night I read the old Giant Size X Men. Not bad but man Angel and Wolverine were being horny pervs. Bobby was a bit uptight too
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Post by spoon on Mar 16, 2017 22:42:56 GMT -5
I read The Silver Surfer: Rebirth of Thanos TPB, which reprints Silver Surfer #34-38, Thanos Quest #1-2, and the short Thanos story from an issue of Logan's Run.
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Post by spoon on Mar 16, 2017 22:45:25 GMT -5
Late last night I read the old Giant Size X Men. Not bad but man Angel and Wolverine were being horny pervs. Bobby was a bit uptight too That sounds like the added sequences/back-up materials from the Classic X-Men #1 reprint of Giant-Size X-Men.
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 17, 2017 6:35:57 GMT -5
I read The Silver Surfer: Rebirth of Thanos TPB, which reprints Silver Surfer #34-38, Thanos Quest #1-2, and the short Thanos story from an issue of Logan's Run. Those Thanos Quest books were such a fun read.
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Post by urrutiap on Mar 17, 2017 11:38:51 GMT -5
Well whatever, Spoon. I was still reading the old Giant Size X Men story. It was alright and even if it was the Classic X Men reprint with the added stuff, I still think Bobby was a bit out of line along with Warren being really perv creepy chasing after Storm flying around. Even Wolverine I was disgusted at.
At least Warpath, Colossus and Nightcrawler behaved themselves.
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 17, 2017 11:40:36 GMT -5
Cmon, Storm was hot.
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Post by lobsterjohnson on Mar 17, 2017 12:22:02 GMT -5
I've been (re-)reading some of Frank Miller's Daredevil run, and just got to the story where Daredevil meets Frank Castle. I was surprised that the Punisher and DD had never met before. I guess it makes sense, I just never noticed it before. I will say that, although I definitely enjoy this run a lot, I'm not always a huge fan of the way the Punisher is written. I'll put this in a spoiler tag just in case: {Spoiler: Click to show} When he's in prison, he tells Bullseye that Elektra is the Kingpin's new assassin, in the hopes that Bullseye will do something stupid and get himself killed. I'm not sure that the Punisher would tell him this and risk Bullseye escaping and harming innocents.
I did enjoy the conversations and battles between DD and Frank, though.
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 17, 2017 12:25:07 GMT -5
I've been (re-)reading some of Frank Miller's Daredevil run, and just got to the story where Daredevil meets Frank Castle. I was surprised that the Punisher and DD had never met before. I guess it makes sense, I just never noticed it before. I will say that, although I definitely enjoy this run a lot, I'm not always a huge fan of the way the Punisher is written. I'll put this in a spoiler tag just in case: {Spoiler: Click to show} When he's in prison, he tells Bullseye that Elektra is the Kingpin's new assassin, in the hopes that Bullseye will do something stupid and get himself killed. I'm not sure that the Punisher would tell him this and risk Bullseye escaping and harming innocents.
I did enjoy the conversations and battles between DD and Frank, though. I'm no Punisher expert but {Spoiler: Click to show} Frank isn't the most morally correct person there is. He might have just thought the ends justify the means.
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Post by lobsterjohnson on Mar 17, 2017 12:44:30 GMT -5
I've been (re-)reading some of Frank Miller's Daredevil run, and just got to the story where Daredevil meets Frank Castle. I was surprised that the Punisher and DD had never met before. I guess it makes sense, I just never noticed it before. I will say that, although I definitely enjoy this run a lot, I'm not always a huge fan of the way the Punisher is written. I'll put this in a spoiler tag just in case: {Spoiler: Click to show} When he's in prison, he tells Bullseye that Elektra is the Kingpin's new assassin, in the hopes that Bullseye will do something stupid and get himself killed. I'm not sure that the Punisher would tell him this and risk Bullseye escaping and harming innocents.
I did enjoy the conversations and battles between DD and Frank, though. I'm no Punisher expert but {Spoiler: Click to show} Frank isn't the most morally correct person there is. He might have just thought the ends justify the means. Most of the Punisher comics I've read are from the last 10-15 years, so I'm definitely no expert either. But I've usually seen him portrayed as willing to kill and harm evil people, but he will never cause harm to come to innocents.
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 17, 2017 16:49:53 GMT -5
I see. I can't imagine that he could control any collateral damage because of his war. But then again we are talking about comics where the Hulk never killed anyone in all his rampages.
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Post by spoon on Mar 17, 2017 22:17:19 GMT -5
I read The Silver Surfer: Rebirth of Thanos TPB, which reprints Silver Surfer #34-38, Thanos Quest #1-2, and the short Thanos story from an issue of Logan's Run. Those Thanos Quest books were such a fun read. Yes, I loved seeing Thanos assemble the gems and match up against each of the Elders. Those trippy full page spreads toward the end were very cool, too. They were beyond what I've seen from Ron Lim elsewhere.
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 18, 2017 5:54:32 GMT -5
I always thought that Ron Lim delivered on every assignment he produced. Even when he took over for George Perez on Infinity Gauntlet, there wasn't a drop off in quality.
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Post by spoon on Mar 18, 2017 15:51:48 GMT -5
I always thought that Ron Lim delivered on every assignment he produced. Even when he took over for George Perez on Infinity Gauntlet, there wasn't a drop off in quality. The first Silver Surfer comic I ever bought was a Ron Lim penciled issue where the Surfer fought Midnight Sun (#60). I thought it was great and bought Silver Surfer semi-regularly for a year or two after that. But I can't recall (at least from the comics I've read) Lim doing anything so trippy as the splash pages dealing with each of the gems toward the end of Thanos Quest #2. It reminded me of one of the Steranko issues of Captain America. So that's what I mean. I think of Lim as more conventional, not experimental. I've never actually read Infinity Gauntlet all the way through. I read (or maybe just browsed) a bit of a couple issues owned by a friend around the time it came out. I've read the first Perez-penciled issue more recently. I read Infinity War and some of Infinity Crusade when they came out, and I don't recall crazy psychedelic story-telling.
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