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Post by Cei-U! on Jun 13, 2017 23:06:50 GMT -5
There's nothing like spending months on end reading Golden Age comics to make one appreciate the carefully constructed plotting, realistic dialogue, and nuanced characterization of their Silver Age counterparts. Oy.
Cei-U! I summon the perspective!
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Post by sabongero on Jun 15, 2017 11:20:35 GMT -5
Yeah, Crossgen really had a good thing going, IMO... I think if they expanded a little less quickly, and didn't try so hard to cram all the non-related properties into one single universe, they might still be around (assuming less monetary stress would lead to better business decisions, that is). Stumbled across a Hollywood reporter article of all things that claimed that Crossgen was co-owned by Ross Perot and that at some point he cut Crossgen's funding? IDK, just really bizarre, almost to Aircel levels www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/marvel-crossgen-comics-short-sad-912580I have to agree with you there. My favorite series in the Crossgen Universe was Mystic. It's kind of like Mantra from the Malibu Ultraverse, might be a little bit too heavy on the "cheesecake", but it's still a very fun and enjoyable read Malibu Ultraverse... I've never come across any comic book from that publisher. What comic book series from the Malibu Ultraverse would you recommend?
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Post by Batflunkie on Jun 15, 2017 12:41:10 GMT -5
Malibu Ultraverse... I've never come across any comic book from that publisher. What comic book series from the Malibu Ultraverse would you recommend? Hmmm, kind of a tall order.... Nightman, Hardcase, Prototype, The Solution, Rune, Sludge, Mantra, and Prime There was also a really good, albeit short lived, late 90's cartoon called "Ultraforce" that would be a good introdution to the Ultraverse I think
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Post by Jesse on Jun 17, 2017 10:57:00 GMT -5
Just finished reading Spider-Man: Kraven's Last Hunt story line for the first time and thought the story was mostly enjoyable. It's definitely something I plan to reread in the future. The original story ran in Web of Spider-Man #31 & 32, Amazing Spider-Man #293 & 294 and Peter Parker, The Spectacular Spider-Man #131 & 132 for those interested. It features Spider-Man being shot and buried by Kraven who then takes up the black costume and mantle of Spider-Man for himself.
The artwork is constant throughout the three titles. There are some pretty epic panels and pages including Spider-Man crawling out of his own grave, Kraven's descent into madness eating spider's by the handful and then being covered in a wave of spiders. Though I'm not sure if that was meant to only be in Peter's nightmare or if it was happening simultaneously. Vermin was very creepily depicted even if he's a bit forgettable as a Spidey villain today and the Kraven versus Vermin fight made for an exciting mid point.
I kind of wanted to see Peter return wearing the classic red and blue costume to defeat Kraven in the black costume. Unfortunately instead Kraven unexpectedly commits suicide which was shocking but I'm not entirely sure it made all that much sense. I do think at the time this was probably something different than most fans were expecting. Although I'm not entirely sure the tone of those books at the time as I've not read that far in my quest to read Spidey from the beginning. So while this story felt dark and sometimes out-of-place in a Spidey comic for me it may not have been.
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Post by Confessor on Jun 18, 2017 3:45:11 GMT -5
Just finished reading Spider-Man: Kraven's Last Hunt story line for the first time and thought the story was mostly enjoyable. It's definitely something I plan to reread in the future. The original story ran in Web of Spider-Man #31 & 32, Amazing Spider-Man #293 & 294 and Peter Parker, The Spectacular Spider-Man #131 & 132 for those interested. It features Spider-Man being shot and buried by Kraven who then takes up the black costume and mantle of Spider-Man for himself. The artwork is constant throughout the three titles. There are some pretty epic panels and pages including Spider-Man crawling out of his own grave, Kraven's descent into madness eating spider's by the handful and then being covered in a wave of spiders. Though I'm not sure if that was meant to only be in Peter's nightmare or if it was happening simultaneously. Vermin was very creepily depicted even if he's a bit forgettable as a Spidey villain today and the Kraven versus Vermin fight made for an exciting mid point. I kind of wanted to see Peter return wearing the classic red and blue costume to defeat Kraven in the black costume. Unfortunately instead Kraven unexpectedly commits suicide which was shocking but I'm not entirely sure it made all that much sense. I do think at the time this was probably something different than most fans were expecting. Although I'm not entirely sure the tone of those books at the time as I've not read that far in my quest to read Spidey from the beginning. So while this story felt dark and sometimes out-of-place in a Spidey comic for me it may not have been. I read Kraven's Last Hunt as it came out and it was definitely a bit darker than most Spider-Man comics of the era. It was a fairly shocking read at the time -- especially the ending. It's a powerful story and my favourite Spidey story featuring Kraven.
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Post by Jesse on Jun 18, 2017 11:15:44 GMT -5
As I've mentioned I began reading Amazing Spider-Man from the beginning. Initially I wanted to read the entire John Romita Sr. run as he's possibly my all-time favorite Spider-Man artist. However I decided why not just read the Ditko run from the beginning and I'm quite glad I did. I've gotten as far as Amazing Spider-Man #68 which features the "Crisis on Campus" cover. I've also read the first issue of Spectacular Spider-Man Magazine #1 and before I read the second issue I'm wondering do both titles effect each other? Because at this point in Amazing Spider-Man, Norman Osborn has disappeared after starting to remember the Green Goblin Spider-Man fight. And in Spectacular Spider-Man Magazine #2 the Green Goblin returns so I'm hesitant to read that just yet. I've also started reading Carmine Infantino's Flash run from the beginning and I've gotten as far as The Flash #138. I have to say this has been one of my favorite runs ever and some of the most fun I've ever had reading comics. I'm really enjoying the artwork and I feel like he does a great job with the facial expressions matching what's actually occurring in the panels which not all artists are able to pull off. Another run I've started is Volume 2 of Wonder Woman and I've gotten as far as Wonder Woman #36. I decided to pick this run up after being caught up with the current Rebirth run and reading the entire third volume by Gail Simone. I'm also interested in reading some pre-Crisis Wonder Woman but I wasn't sure where to start other than the early Golden Age Marston stuff. Can anyone recommend where to start there? It's a powerful story and my favourite Spidey story featuring Kraven. I think mine as well. I feel like if I was ranking the top Spider-Man villains he may rank right up there after Green Goblin and Doc Ock.
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Post by MDG on Jun 18, 2017 15:39:05 GMT -5
I went to a show yesterday and picked up Superman Chronicles v. 1, reprinting the earliest stories from Action.
I gotta say, I'm enjoying them a lot. Superman has a definite agenda, siding with what would be seen as liberal causes these days (and at the time, I guess). Even with the focus on action, he seems focused on helping "the little guy," against people in power--to the point of deliberately trapping a party of wealthy people in a coal mine.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jun 18, 2017 21:47:41 GMT -5
I went to a show yesterday and picked up Superman Chronicles v. 1, reprinting the earliest stories from Action. I gotta say, I'm enjoying them a lot. Superman has a definite agenda, siding with what would be seen as liberal causes these days (and at the time, I guess). Even with the focus on action, he seems focused on helping "the little guy," against people in power--to the point of deliberately trapping a party of wealthy people in a coal mine. That is the only time period of Superman that I actually enjoy. It's super crude both in art and story. But the exuberance and the populist appeal of Superman is a good time.
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Post by dbutler69 on Jun 19, 2017 7:44:21 GMT -5
I went to a show yesterday and picked up Superman Chronicles v. 1, reprinting the earliest stories from Action. I gotta say, I'm enjoying them a lot. Superman has a definite agenda, siding with what would be seen as liberal causes these days (and at the time, I guess). Even with the focus on action, he seems focused on helping "the little guy," against people in power--to the point of deliberately trapping a party of wealthy people in a coal mine. I read that a few years ago and was shocked at Superman's behavior. He was like the Dark Knight! Still, I enjoyed it quite a bit. And yes, definitely a liberal agenda, though they wouldn't have called it that back then.
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Post by hondobrode on Jun 19, 2017 10:49:18 GMT -5
Along with being the first superhero, I think with the timing of the Depression and the prevailing zeitgeist, Superman was the perfect character of the time
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 13:31:05 GMT -5
Along with being the first superhero, I think with the timing of the Depression and the prevailing zeitgeist, Superman was the perfect character of the time My Favorite Picture of Golden Age Superman ... thanks for sharing these pictures ... Hondo! An Enhanced Colorized Picture of someone in Deviant Art ... The coolest thing about these pictures is the fact that the Yellow Chest Symbol with a Simple Red S is so vintage and yet modern. And, most importantly the Red Boots are totally unique and that's give it a dramatic flair as well. I just loved the simplicity of all this.
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Post by hondobrode on Jun 20, 2017 9:58:45 GMT -5
Along with being the first superhero, I think with the timing of the Depression and the prevailing zeitgeist, Superman was the perfect character of the time My Favorite Picture of Golden Age Superman ... thanks for sharing these pictures ... Hondo! An Enhanced Colorized Picture of someone in Deviant Art ... The coolest thing about these pictures is the fact that the Yellow Chest Symbol with a Simple Red S is so vintage and yet modern. And, most importantly the Red Boots are totally unique and that's give it a dramatic flair as well. I just loved the simplicity of all this. I agree CC That's Francis Manapul. He's done some recent work on The Flash as well as a newer DC title, Trinity, with Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman. I first noticed his work about 10 years or so ago on The Legion of Super-Heroes.
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Post by Batflunkie on Jun 21, 2017 11:44:39 GMT -5
The first two issues of Byrne's OMAC mini-series from '91. Felt like it captured the very raw essence of Kirby quite well, still confused as to why it was intended for "mature audiences only"
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Post by LovesGilKane on Jun 21, 2017 12:06:22 GMT -5
x-men #56-60, by Thomas/Adams/Palmer, while comparing the layouts/lighting to nick fury agent of shield #3, both which I've owned in relatively good (or slightly better) condition for decades. Sad that the ink 'bleeds out' as with old tattoos, however
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Post by Batflunkie on Jun 21, 2017 13:01:28 GMT -5
x-men #56-60, by Thomas/Adams/Palmer, while comparing the layouts/lighting to nick fury agent of shield #3, both which I've owned in relatively good (or slightly better) condition for decades. Sad that the ink 'bleeds out' as with old tattoos, however Yeah, I've got a bunch of Eagle Colored Reprints Of Dredd and that's happened to most of them from the 80's. Most of the time it happens when they decided to color in the narration panels
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