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Post by Jesse on Jul 13, 2017 16:24:06 GMT -5
A couple of months ago I read the story "The Redemption of Larry Trent" originally published in Superman #2 1939 and thought it was a really fun read. Superman saves a man jumping off of a bridge who turns out to be a former heavy weight contender down on his luck. Trent wouldn't take a dive for a ruthless gangster who was fixing boxing matches. Superman decides to disguise himself as Trent and fight his way to the championship match. They switch places in the final match and Trent wins the title himself while Superman goes after the gangster who tried to drug Trent during the match.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 14:02:20 GMT -5
Most of my Comics are in the forms of DC Comics Archives and Marvel Masterworks
I've read the following Masterworks from Marvel Comics
Ms. Marvel: Vol. 1-2 The Champions: Vol. 1 Venus: Vol. 1
Venus Volume 1 is from a dear friend of mine and I'm thinking of getting it soon.
From DC Comics, the following Archive Editions are:
Justice League of America #10 ... Justice League of America #81–93
Just acquired a copy of this Archive and now my 10 Volumes Set is complete.
Supergirl Archives #1 and #2 ... just bought a 2nd hand copy from a friend of mine that goes to the same LCS that I go to.
This is my reading for the past 3 weeks.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 14, 2017 15:08:54 GMT -5
I'm currently reading Secret Wars 2. It's totally uninspired tripe from Jim Shooter and it doesn't help that Al Milgrom is doing the art.
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Post by Phil Maurice on Jul 14, 2017 15:57:33 GMT -5
I'm currently reading Secret Wars 2. It's totally uninspired tripe from Jim Shooter and it doesn't help that Al Milgrom is doing the art. While I don't feel the need to slight a workhorse like Milgrom, I agree that Shooter and SW2 provided returns so diminished, he must have used Pym Particles to achieve them.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 14, 2017 16:32:17 GMT -5
It seemed like the series was designed to get readers to buy the other monthly titles by shamelessly crossing over with them and torpetoing ongoing storylines.
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Post by Cei-U! on Jul 14, 2017 17:02:26 GMT -5
Secret Wars II's whole purpose (besides making fistfuls of money like the first series) was to set up Shooter's pet project, the New Universe line.
Cei-U! I summon the ego boo!
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 14, 2017 17:17:07 GMT -5
I'm currently reading Secret Wars 2. It's totally uninspired tripe from Jim Shooter and it doesn't help that Al Milgrom is doing the art. So it's just like Secret Wars.
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Post by spoon on Jul 14, 2017 18:43:38 GMT -5
I finished the Captain America: Death of the Red Skull TPB, which ends with #301. There's a lot of build-up, but #300 doesn't end up a being a very big deal. Cap punches the Red Skull a few times and the Skull dies. Cap is about to die from the poisoning that has triggering the aging process stalled by his suspended animation, when he's temporarily saved by Black Crow, a Native American hero. It seems like an attempt to shoehorn in the one issue in this run that didn't seem to fit (Black Crow's previous appearance). And that's it. That's basically the issue.
The permanent cure to Cap's aging comes in #301. That issue also wraps other aspects of the story. Really, #300 seems more like a lull between more consquential issues. Sure, the Skull "dies" in #300, but it feels like going out with a whimper after the build-up. The main strength of #300 is that Dennis Janke starts doing the inking, and he seems a better fit with Paul Neary than the previous inkers.
Now, I'm on to the next Captain America TPB - Society of Serpents!
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Post by Crimebuster on Jul 14, 2017 20:25:31 GMT -5
I finished the Captain America: Death of the Red Skull TPB, which ends with #301. There's a lot of build-up, but #300 doesn't end up a being a very big deal. Cap punches the Red Skull a few times and the Skull dies. Cap is about to die from the poisoning that has triggering the aging process stalled by his suspended animation, when he's temporarily saved by Black Crow, a Native American hero. It seems like an attempt to shoehorn in the one issue in this run that didn't seem to fit (Black Crow's previous appearance). And that's it. That's basically the issue. The permanent cure to Cap's aging comes in #301. That issue also wraps other aspects of the story. Really, #300 seems more like a lull between more consquential issues. Sure, the Skull "dies" in #300, but it feels like going out with a whimper after the build-up. The main strength of #300 is that Dennis Janke starts doing the inking, and he seems a better fit with Paul Neary than the previous inkers. Now, I'm on to the next Captain America TPB - Society of Serpents! One reason for 300 maybe feeling a little like a lull - and for black crow's appearance feeling random - is that my understanding is this story was not what was originally planned for #300. DeMatteis had planned to have captain America also die in thus issue, and black crow was going to become the new captain America. Editorial scrapped it at the last minute and he quit the book in protest, so it was finished by other people salvaging what they could.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 20:42:00 GMT -5
Finished Batman #316, 317 & 318. I've been slowly enjoying Len Wein's run on the series. I've not read any of these but they look great! I especially want to read that Riddler issue. I love Classic Riddler Stories, even when they're stupid. I thought it was a pretty good issue.
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Post by Confessor on Jul 15, 2017 10:10:56 GMT -5
I'm currently reading Secret Wars 2. It's totally uninspired tripe from Jim Shooter and it doesn't help that Al Milgrom is doing the art. I read Secret Wars 2 for the first time about a year ago. Man alive, it was...yeah, uninspired. Not outright terrible or anything, but just so "nothingy" and forgettable. I swear I'll never waste hours of my life again re-reading that one. So it's just like Secret Wars. Oh, I don't know...Secret Wars was great for what it was: big, dumb, superhero fun. It had a ton of pizzazz and energy to it, even if, ultimately, it was a totally unnecessary excuse for a big good guys vs. bad guys punch-up. I think the fact that I encountered it aged 12 might be a factor in my enjoyment of it though. Still, while the first Secret Wars is certainly no masterpiece, it is at least readable and fairly memorable as a gigantic superhero fight, if nothing else. The follow-up, on the other hand, is just dull and eminently forgettable.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 15, 2017 10:20:55 GMT -5
Finished Batman #316, 317 & 318. I've been slowly enjoying Len Wein's run on the series. I got that issue of 317 in a Whitman three-pack back in the day.
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Post by spoon on Jul 15, 2017 10:39:40 GMT -5
I finished the Captain America: Death of the Red Skull TPB, which ends with #301. There's a lot of build-up, but #300 doesn't end up a being a very big deal. Cap punches the Red Skull a few times and the Skull dies. Cap is about to die from the poisoning that has triggering the aging process stalled by his suspended animation, when he's temporarily saved by Black Crow, a Native American hero. It seems like an attempt to shoehorn in the one issue in this run that didn't seem to fit (Black Crow's previous appearance). And that's it. That's basically the issue. The permanent cure to Cap's aging comes in #301. That issue also wraps other aspects of the story. Really, #300 seems more like a lull between more consquential issues. Sure, the Skull "dies" in #300, but it feels like going out with a whimper after the build-up. The main strength of #300 is that Dennis Janke starts doing the inking, and he seems a better fit with Paul Neary than the previous inkers. Now, I'm on to the next Captain America TPB - Society of Serpents! One reason for 300 maybe feeling a little like a lull - and for black crow's appearance feeling random - is that my understanding is this story was not what was originally planned for #300. DeMatteis had planned to have captain America also die in thus issue, and black crow was going to become the new captain America. Editorial scrapped it at the last minute and he quit the book in protest, so it was finished by other people salvaging what they could. Now that you mention it, I think I heard that story years ago but forgot it (because I hadn't read these issues back then). That explanation makes sense. J.M. DeMatteis seems daring enough to try that, but TPTB probably wouldn't be on board. Black Crow seems superfluous in the story that was published, especially since he only provides a temporary fix for a problem the Avengers solve in #301. But if Black Crow replaces Cap and the last few pages were replaced by a new sequence, it could work. Even though DeMatteis is credited as plotter (with Mike Carlin as scripter), I can imagine where Carlin and/or editorial took over plotting with a few pages left. It's hard to believe that DeMatteis would decide not to script his final issue (and #300 at that) unless he quit in protest or was forced out. That explanation puts other events in a different context. In #297, Cap saves Nomad in a delusion induced by Baron Zemo to simulate Bucky's death. It is framed by as redemption or closure for Cap, but I didn't think he needed closure. However, if Cap is about to be killed off, it makes more sense for the writer to want Cap to be at peace regarding Bucky.
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Post by spoon on Jul 15, 2017 11:06:20 GMT -5
I'm currently reading Secret Wars 2. It's totally uninspired tripe from Jim Shooter and it doesn't help that Al Milgrom is doing the art. I read Secret Wars 2 for the first time about a year ago. Man alive, it was...yeah, uninspired. Not outright terrible or anything, but just so "nothingy" and forgettable. I swear I'll never waste hours of my life again re-reading that one. So it's just like Secret Wars. Oh, I don't know...Secret Wars was great for what it was: big, dumb, superhero fun. It had a ton of pizzazz and energy to it, even if, ultimately, it was a totally unnecessary excuse for a big good guys vs. bad guys punch-up. I think the fact that I encountered it aged 12 might be a factor in my enjoyment of it though. Still, while the first Secret Wars is certainly no masterpiece, it is at least readable and fairly memorable as a gigantic superhero fight, if nothing else. The follow-up, on the other hand, is just dull and eminently forgettable. Of course, I've read several of the Secret Wars II crossovers, but never the series itself. I'm tempted by curiousity and a couple of the covers (#1 and #8), but then I read the essentially unanimous criticism of the series. I agree with your assessment of the original Secret Wars movie. It's like an action movie that has no real depth to it, but with a well-done roller coaster of action sequences.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 15, 2017 11:09:03 GMT -5
I read Secret Wars 2 for the first time about a year ago. Man alive, it was...yeah, uninspired. Not outright terrible or anything, but just so "nothingy" and forgettable. I swear I'll never waste hours of my life again re-reading that one. Oh, I don't know...Secret Wars was great for what it was: big, dumb, superhero fun. It had a ton of pizzazz and energy to it, even if, ultimately, it was a totally unnecessary excuse for a big good guys vs. bad guys punch-up. I think the fact that I encountered it aged 12 might be a factor in my enjoyment of it though. Still, while the first Secret Wars is certainly no masterpiece, it is at least readable and fairly memorable as a gigantic superhero fight, if nothing else. The follow-up, on the other hand, is just dull and eminently forgettable. Of course, I've read several of the Secret Wars II crossovers, but never the series itself. I'm tempted by curiousity and a couple of the covers (#1 and #8), but then I read the essentially unanimous criticism of the series. I agree with your assessment of the original Secret Wars movie. It's like an action movie that has no real depth to it, but with a well-done roller coaster of action sequences. Secret Wars bored me to death. I bought the first five or so issues off the spinner rack and gave up. Apparently even as a teen my tastes couldn't take the tedium.
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