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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 18, 2017 13:22:44 GMT -5
I'm curious String, did Starlin do the scripting on this series?
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Post by Hoosier X on Nov 18, 2017 18:30:03 GMT -5
I'm still on my Golden Age break but I've been kind of busy and not reading as many comics at night as I usually do. (Except for the night where I stayed up very late and binged on Futura and Sky Girl.) When I finish the Golden Age break, I'll post here with a few words about each feature that I'm reading. I didn't realize that some of these features were kind of short-lived. I'll probably be reading Golden Age Wonder Woman until I die, but Futura only lasted from Planet Comics #43 to #66 and I only have six installments yet. I'll probably be done with Futura, Space Smith and the Atomic Knights the next time I take a Golden Age break, so I'm starting to think about which new features to look at. Such as Electro the Human Robot, who ran in Marvel Mystery Comics from #4 to #19 (or so). I read one Electro story years ago and I was intrigued and have been wanting to check it out ever since. And maybe Liberty Belle. She was in the first two issues of Boy Commandos, then she was in Star- Spangled Comics from #20 to #68. I read one installment a few years back and thought it was worth looking into if, you know, you like crudely drawn, stupid Golden Age stories. But the main reason I took a little break from today's errands is to talk up The Atomic Knights. I read Strange Adventures #138, #141 and #144 over the last few days and The Atomic Knights series is getting a lot more fun really fast. I was liking it before, but now I'm seeing why it was something of a cult-comic favorite from the Silver Age. (These are three consecutive Atomic Knights stories because it was published every three issues, alternating with Star Hawkins and the Space Museum. And both Star Hawkins and the Space Museum are candidates for what I'm going to read next, especially Star Hawkins. I've seen a few Star Hawkins stories reprinted in 1970s issues of Detective and I think they're a lot of fun.) Strange Adventures #144 was the first time The Atomic Knights made the cover! MOLE PEOPLE! And also, they are riding GIANT DALMATIANS that they found wandering around in the wake of the Atomic War that destroyed civilization far in the future - 1986. It's so great!
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Nov 18, 2017 18:54:04 GMT -5
Finished up the trade today... pretty good overall, but towards the end of the run things started to get more.. generic. I wonder if Kirby was anxious to get back to his 4th World stuff.. the preface mentioned how Kirby didn't really want to do a horror book, but it sold better than the New Gods, so DC wanted him to do it instead. I only had one issue of the Demon - and the same digest that String did - but Klarion the WitchBoy freaked me out! (And I read it when I was, like, 20!) I should probably grab the trade. I read the hardcover (through the Des Moines library) when that came out but this is material worth owning, I think.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Nov 18, 2017 18:57:10 GMT -5
When I finish the Golden Age break, I'll post here with a few words about each feature that I'm reading. I didn't realize that some of these features were kind of short-lived. I'll probably be reading Golden Age Wonder Woman until I die, but Futura only lasted from Planet Comics #43 to #66 and I only have six installments yet. I'll probably be done with Futura, Space Smith and the Atomic Knights the next time I take a Golden Age break, so I'm starting to think about which new features to look at. Such as Electro the Human Robot, who ran in Marvel Mystery Comics from #4 to #19 (or so). I read one Electro story years ago and I was intrigued and have been wanting to check it out ever since. And maybe Liberty Belle. She was in the first two issues of Boy Commandos, then she was in Star- Spangled Comics from #20 to #68. I read one installment a few years back and thought it was worth looking into if, you know, you like crudely drawn, stupid Golden Age stories. But the main reason I took a little break from today's errands is to talk up The Atomic Knights. I read Strange Adventures #138, #141 and #144 over the last few days and The Atomic Knights series is getting a lot more fun really fast. I was liking it before, but now I'm seeing why it was something of a cult-comic favorite from the Silver Age. (These are three consecutive Atomic Knights stories because it was published every three issues, alternating with Star Hawkins and the Space Museum. And both Star Hawkins and the Space Museum are candidates for what I'm going to read next, especially Star Hawkins. I've seen a few Star Hawkins stories reprinted in 1970s issues of Detective and I think they're a lot of fun.) Strange Adventures #144 was the first time The Atomic Knights made the cover! MOLE PEOPLE! And also, they are riding GIANT DALMATIANS that they found wandering around in the wake of the Atomic War that destroyed civilization far in the future - 1986. It's so great! Golden Age Wonder Woman - One of my favorite superhero comics, but it. is. dense. SO MANY WORDS! Electro - Frickin' love all the Golden Age Marvel robots. The art has this weird 2-D look that I'm not sure if it's brilliant or accidental. Giant Dalmatians - All those DC sci-fi books have cool covers but I often find myself dissapointed by the actual story. Still mad about the invisible dinosaur one.
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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 19, 2017 8:22:15 GMT -5
I have been reading Hulk 377-382 which has Dale Keown's run with Peter David. This is when all the versions of the Hulk are merged into one. They also introduce the Pantheon which was his new supporting cast for a few years. I'd forgotten how dated some of PD's references could be. In the third panel of this scan , he makes mention of Ted Turner. At the time, Turner was infamous for taking classic Black and white films and adding color to show on his network.
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Post by chaykinstevens on Nov 19, 2017 8:49:43 GMT -5
To be honest, judging from the shots of the interior art that I saw, it looks very much like any other modern comic, with colour, modern looking, vaugly manga-esque artwork; I'd have been more interested if it had featured the same artists who worked on the original publication and used the same black & white art. The original Thirteenth Floor artist, Jose Ortiz, died in 2013. I thought the preview page I saw by the Fishboy and Black Knight artist John Stokes looked agreeably old school, but I don't know if they coloured it in the published version.
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Post by Confessor on Nov 19, 2017 9:47:42 GMT -5
To be honest, judging from the shots of the interior art that I saw, it looks very much like any other modern comic, with colour, modern looking, vaugly manga-esque artwork; I'd have been more interested if it had featured the same artists who worked on the original publication and used the same black & white art. The original Thirteenth Floor artist, Jose Ortiz, died in 2013. I thought the preview page I saw by the Fishboy and Black Knight artist John Stokes looked agreeably old school, but I don't know if they coloured it in the published version. Actually, you're right, that does look very old school. I too wonder if they coloured it. I was under the impression that it was full colour throughout, but that may not be correct. The few pages I saw online (which didn't include the 13th Floor) didn't look at all like that though, they were much more modern looking.
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Post by dbutler69 on Nov 19, 2017 11:40:37 GMT -5
I started reading a trade of Kirby's Demon yesterday. I'm not even sure why I picked it up.. I was waiting for a solid Kamandi collection, and was disappointed at the time they didn't put one out (they're doing an Omni in the spring, but really I wanted like 2-3 soft cover trades). Anyway, I was surprised at how interesting it is, and how little like the DCU appearance Etrigan is. Too bad Vertigo didnt' exist then, I feel like this is almost a pre-Vertigo book so far (5 issues in) I picked up some random Demon back issues in a dollar bin a few years ago. They were pretty good. I wish I'd gotten the whole run rather than some random back issues. Such are the vagaries of the dollar bin, though.
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Post by Batflunkie on Nov 19, 2017 21:05:31 GMT -5
I started reading a trade of Kirby's Demon yesterday. I'm not even sure why I picked it up.. I was waiting for a solid Kamandi collection, and was disappointed at the time they didn't put one out (they're doing an Omni in the spring, but really I wanted like 2-3 soft cover trades). Anyway, I was surprised at how interesting it is, and how little like the DCU appearance Etrigan is. Too bad Vertigo didnt' exist then, I feel like this is almost a pre-Vertigo book so far (5 issues in) I picked up some random Demon back issues in a dollar bin a few years ago. They were pretty good. I wish I'd gotten the whole run rather than some random back issues. Such are the vagaries of the dollar bin, though. For the longest time, The Demon was really the only Kirby DC book that I liked (and where I felt that his more chunky, borderline cubist sensibilities suited the comic itself). Was kind of disheartened to learn it was his least favorite to work on These days, I'm rather torn between Mister Miracle or OMAC as my absolute favorite of his tenure. The Demon still holds a special place in my heart as a great addition to DC's storied magic centric back-catalog though New Gods and Kamandi never really did it for me
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Post by wildfire2099 on Nov 19, 2017 22:19:48 GMT -5
It's clear he was tired of it at the end... with two of the last stories being 'homages' to Phantom of the Opera and Frankenstein, but they were still pretty good. Around those, though, were two awesome stories with Klarion the Witchboy... which were pretty awesome despite his silly na,e.
Speaking of horrible character names.. 'Ugly Meg' and 'Baron von Evilstein'. really? At least Farley Fairfax has the traditional Stan Lee alliteration going.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 23:01:58 GMT -5
It's clear he was tired of it at the end... with two of the last stories being 'homages' to Phantom of the Opera and Frankenstein, but they were still pretty good. Around those, though, were two awesome stories with Klarion the Witchboy... which were pretty awesome despite his silly na,e. Speaking of horrible character names.. 'Ugly Meg' and 'Baron von Evilstein'. really? At least Farley Fairfax has the traditional Stan Lee alliteration going. According to Mark Evanier in the essay at the end of the Manhunter Oversize Special (which featured a new Demon story with Steve Rude art), one of the specials DC did celebrating Kirby's Centennial, both the Demon and Kamandi were concepts Jack created with the intent of handing off to other creators after an issue or two and just editing the book, but editorial liked them better (and sales were better on them than the Fourth World books) so Infantino decided to cancel the Fourth World stuff and keep Jack on the two new books instead, so there may have been a bit of a reason Jack wasn't enthralled with doing the Demon and tired of it, he wasn't intending to do more than an issue or two of it but got stuck on to by editorial fiat. -M
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Post by wildfire2099 on Nov 20, 2017 0:00:27 GMT -5
Yeah, that's mentioned in the Demon preface also.. can you imagine that happening today?
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Post by Hoosier X on Nov 20, 2017 2:27:33 GMT -5
I really liked the Wildcat story in Sensation Comics #12. We all know that Ted Grant - Wildcat's civilian identity - is the heavyweight champion in the Earth-2 universe, but not that many of the stories (that I've seen anyway) revolve around the world of professional boxing.
But the story in #12 does! It's a lot like a Hollywood boxing movie from the 1930s or 1940s or the 1950s. But with Wildcat thrown in!
Wildcat's sidekick Stretch Skinner has a friend from back home who wants to be a boxer. His name is Corny Collins! He gets in with some shifty managers who pay off some guys to throw a few fights and Corny Collins is suddenly a hot commodity in the boxing world. They're even maneuvering him into a shot at the title against Ted Grant!
Corny doesn't realize that his managers are crooked. And the story develops from there. These managers are some BAD GUYS! They kidnap Ted Grant's girlfriend to force him to lose the fight on purpose against Corny Collins!
Wildcat saves the day. There's some panels where it looks like Wildcat can fly, but I think he's just jumping impossible distances.
A lot of fun!
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Post by dbutler69 on Nov 20, 2017 8:15:18 GMT -5
I picked up some random Demon back issues in a dollar bin a few years ago. They were pretty good. I wish I'd gotten the whole run rather than some random back issues. Such are the vagaries of the dollar bin, though. For the longest time, The Demon was really the only Kirby DC book that I liked (and where I felt that his more chunky, borderline cubist sensibilities suited the comic itself). Was kind of disheartened to learn it was his least favorite to work on These days, I'm rather torn between Mister Miracle or OMAC as my absolute favorite of his tenure. The Demon still holds a special place in my heart as a great addition to DC's storied magic centric back-catalog though New Gods and Kamandi never really did it for me Wow, I never knew that he didn't like working on that one. I guess, after The Eternals, that Kamandi and New Gods are my two favorite Kirby works, but I still like the Demon. Like you say, his blocky style works better there than some other places.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 10:18:45 GMT -5
Batflunkie ... You and I are very much alike. I like Mr. Miracle, The Demon, New Gods, and OMAC in that order done by Kirby. I don't care about Kamandi because it's never amount to anything that I like.
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