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Post by brutalis on May 22, 2019 10:32:05 GMT -5
Joe Staton was never a good fit for LOSH. Too cartoonish and no real futuristic design sense of style. And LOSH was never going to be ANY artists choice for taking on as an assignment due to the high volume of characters involved. LOSH as many team comics did suffered in this sense as the publishers were left with difficult choices on who was willing or young/hungry wanting that 1st regular assignment. Very few were willing back then for being asked to do so "much" for so little pay as it were. Saying that, at least Staton stayed on for a decent run keeping the series alive (much like Jimmy Janes) and on the stands until Levitz and Giffen pushed the LOSH into the big sales figures.
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Post by dbutler69 on May 22, 2019 14:20:38 GMT -5
I read Ms. Marvel #17. An enjoyable issue. I'm really enjoying Claremont's work on this series. The art is OK, but doesn't really grab me.
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Post by dbutler69 on May 23, 2019 7:51:45 GMT -5
I read Ms Marvel #18. Good issue. Avengers guest appearance, and the first full appearance of Mystique, though she's only known as Raven Darkholme here, and just Raven in the couple of issues before that. I'm surprised that Centurion never showed up again. I like how Ms. Marvel defeated him. It was clever. I don't see how she could have possible known his gun was about to explode, though.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2019 8:00:09 GMT -5
I read Ms Marvel #18. Good issue. Avengers guest appearance, and the first full appearance of Mystique, though she's only known as Raven Darkholme here, and just Raven in the couple of issues before that. I'm surprised that Centurion never showed up again. I like how Ms. Marvel defeated him. It was clever. I don't see how she could have possible known his gun was about to explode, though. One of my favorite Ms. Marvel books.
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Post by beccabear67 on May 23, 2019 13:07:34 GMT -5
My ideal would be Dave Cockrum, but at least he was doing the covers. Jim Mooney with Joe Sinnott would've been ideal if no Cockrum. I seem to remember Mooney turned up on Spider-Woman later, but once or twice as the inker which really seems odd. I wonder what Bob McLeod might've done inking Mooney. Some of these issue are now up there in price to try and buy now because of Mystique, not sure about the recent Captain Marvel movie if it's had any effect on the title.
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Post by dbutler69 on May 23, 2019 14:22:55 GMT -5
My ideal would be Dave Cockrum, but at least he was doing the covers. Jim Mooney with Joe Sinnott would've been ideal if no Cockrum. I seem to remember Mooney turned up on Spider-Woman later, but once or twice as the inker which really seems odd. I wonder what Bob McLeod might've done inking Mooney. Some of these issue are now up there in price to try and buy now because of Mystique, not sure about the recent Captain Marvel movie if it's had any effect on the title. Cockrum did pencil #20 and 21, so I'm looking forward to those issues. Bob Wiacek and Al Milgrom on inks, though.
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Post by Hoosier X on May 24, 2019 10:44:53 GMT -5
I went to my storage for the first time in quite a while and though I didn't want to pull out a bunch of stuff, I decided to get SOMETHING I haven't read for a while that I've been wanting to read again. I decided on Marvel Masterworks: The Avengers, Volume One, reprinting The Avengers #1 to #10. I read the first three issues over the last few days. The first four issues of The Avengers and then the cross-over with the Fantastic Four in FF #25 and #26 is one of my favorite storylines ever! I call it "The Search for the Hulk!" and I rated it very highly when we were voting on best storylines a few years ago. I'd forgotten how much I love the second issue! Yeah, it's all over the place and hyper-active and doesn't really make much sense at times. But I read it when I was a kid as a reprint in the back of Giant-Size Avengers #3 that I bought for 25 cents at a used book store and it blew my mind! The Hulk is so wonderfully rude. The Space Phantom is SUCH A NUT! I love the ordinary New Yorker with the dumb hat who spends some time in Limbo when the Space Phantom takes his place, and then he's wandering around telling everybody about Limbo and all these jaded New Yorkers are all "Yeah, whatever, buddy!" But I especially love plucky, flirty Wasp, wonderful Janet van Dyne with her stupid head gear, not hesitating to rush into battle despite being an inch high! I think Jan is so refreshing! She's like a character from Millie the Model or Patsy Walker, snatched from her usual haunts and slapped into a super-hero comic! I was just going to read #1 to #10, but as I also have Volume Two, I may just keep going and read all the way to #20. There's a few issues in the #11 to #14 period that are pretty bad, but I haven't read them for a while, so I think I can struggle through them.
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Post by urrutiap on May 24, 2019 14:33:10 GMT -5
Earlier today i read issues 102 to 105 of old Incredible Hulk. The stories in them were pretty good but I take it that it continues from some other older comic?
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Post by Crimebuster on May 24, 2019 15:09:47 GMT -5
Yes, Hulk was in Tales to Astonish #59-101 before TTA became Incredible Hulk with #102.
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Post by Hoosier X on May 24, 2019 15:49:54 GMT -5
Earlier today i read issues 102 to 105 of old Incredible Hulk. The stories in them were pretty good but I take it that it continues from some other older comic? The story in Tales to Astonish #101 continues directly into Hulk #102. Tales into Astonish was host to two series, the Hulk and Sub-Mariner. In the late 1960s, Marvel decided to give ALL the heroes in the doubled-up comics their own titles. So Tales of Suspense #99 spun off into Captain America #100 and Iron Man and Sub-Mariner #1. Strange Tales #168 continued into Doctor Strange #169 and Nick Fury, Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. #1. And Tales of Astonish #101 HULK-INUED into Hulk #102 and the already mentioned Iron Man and Sub-Mariner #1. Iron Man and Sub-Mariner only lasted one issue. The next month, both heroes had their own titles, starting with #1.
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Post by Duragizer on May 25, 2019 0:40:25 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2019 10:19:30 GMT -5
I went to my storage for the first time in quite a while and though I didn't want to pull out a bunch of stuff, I decided to get SOMETHING I haven't read for a while that I've been wanting to read again. I decided on Marvel Masterworks: The Avengers, Volume One, reprinting The Avengers #1 to #10. I read the first three issues over the last few days. The first four issues of The Avengers and then the cross-over with the Fantastic Four in FF #25 and #26 is one of my favorite storylines ever! I call it "The Search for the Hulk!" and I rated it very highly when we were voting on best storylines a few years ago. I'd forgotten how much I love the second issue! Yeah, it's all over the place and hyper-active and doesn't really make much sense at times. But I read it when I was a kid as a reprint in the back of Giant-Size Avengers #3 that I bought for 25 cents at a used book store and it blew my mind! The Hulk is so wonderfully rude. The Space Phantom is SUCH A NUT! I love the ordinary New Yorker with the dumb hat who spends some time in Limbo when the Space Phantom takes his place, and then he's wandering around telling everybody about Limbo and all these jaded New Yorkers are all "Yeah, whatever, buddy!" But I especially love plucky, flirty Wasp, wonderful Janet van Dyne with her stupid head gear, not hesitating to rush into battle despite being an inch high! I think Jan is so refreshing! She's like a character from Millie the Model or Patsy Walker, snatched from her usual haunts and slapped into a super-hero comic! I was just going to read #1 to #10, but as I also have Volume Two, I may just keep going and read all the way to #20. There's a few issues in the #11 to #14 period that are pretty bad, but I haven't read them for a while, so I think I can struggle through them. That's one of my favorite early AVENGERS story ... that featured Giant Man for the 1st time. Giant Man became an instant favorite for me.
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Post by beccabear67 on May 25, 2019 13:46:23 GMT -5
Tales To Astonish #49 the same month introduced Giant Man, not sure which might've been on the stands earliest if either... never read Avengers #2 (but I can read it now in pdf, been saving them up) Tales To Astonish had some genuinely top-drawer Don Heck art. Early Marvel had those weird heavier sometimes colored word balloons on the covers still, but I think they were going to be gone soon like the chunky gold Iron Man.
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Post by Cei-U! on May 25, 2019 19:11:16 GMT -5
According to Mike's Amazing World of Comics, Tales to Astonish #49 was released on August 1, 1963, a full month before Avengers #2 on September 3.
Cei-U! I summon the timeline!
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Post by dbutler69 on May 28, 2019 11:59:17 GMT -5
I read Ms. Marvel #19-23, thereby concluding the series. It's too bad that it got cancelled. The last page says "Next Issue" Sabre-Tooth". Obviously, next issue never came, though that story was finally published in 1992 in Marvel Super-Heroes #10-11. I will have to check those issues out. Chris Claremont did a really good job here with characterization, dialogue, and creating a supporting cast. The art became a bit of a revolving door, though. Also, I noticed that titles of issues 19 (Mirror Mirror) and 21 (The Devil in the Dark) are the same as Star Trek episodes.
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