Daryl
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Post by Daryl on Aug 22, 2014 10:26:34 GMT -5
I actually thought Spider-Woman started decently strong under Wolfman, with the whole Merlin involvement. Hell, even the Brother's Grimm. Infantino's art was ok to me but I don't have much historical perspective on him as this is probably the earliest of his work that I have. The only other things by him that I remember owning are "Star Wars" and "V" issues!
It had so many different writers that it just went all kinds of directions. Still, I have some missing issues in my collection of this one that I still really want to fill. My LCS is having a huge Labor Day sale, maybe I'll just hunker down and get some of those.
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Aug 22, 2014 16:50:27 GMT -5
Detective Comics #524 Foolish me picked up a copy of Batman #357 a few months ago and sold it, not realizing this ish had the follow up story. Darn. This issue was good, although I am a bit confused why #357 gets billed as first app. of Killer Croc and this issue gets substancially less attention. Correct me if I am wrong but you see his face for the first time here. Decent story, good art, the Squid is well...annoying...but is killed at the end so that makes up for his annoying speech
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Post by coveredinbees on Aug 22, 2014 18:44:52 GMT -5
I'm attached to the character. That's a very nice way to put it. The early issues are not gold, but there are few I really liked. The art was good enough on most of her run. Marv Wolfman came up with a few odd villains. I remember thinking the Brothers Grimm were hilarious in their first appearance, but a bit disappointing after. I hated the Man Who Could Not Die. 13-16 was a good arc. I thought her struggle with her powers was interesting, and that storyline introduced Lindsay McCabe. 18 is one of my favorite stories. www.comicvine.com/spider-woman-18-sins-of-the-flesh/4000-19790/It was so unsettling.
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Post by shaxper on Aug 22, 2014 22:56:18 GMT -5
Detective Comics #524 Foolish me picked up a copy of Batman #357 a few months ago and sold it, not realizing this ish had the follow up story. Darn. This issue was good, although I am a bit confused why #357 gets billed as first app. of Killer Croc and this issue gets substancially less attention. Correct me if I am wrong but you see his face for the first time here. Decent story, good art, the Squid is well...annoying...but is killed at the end so that makes up for his annoying speech One of my absolute favorite Batman stories of all time. My old review of the issue.
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Post by shaxper on Aug 23, 2014 9:45:44 GMT -5
Just read my first ever Super-Villain Team-Up, and I LOVED it! I also have #8-13 and will be reading them this week. Is the run solid throughout?
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Post by shaxper on Aug 23, 2014 11:02:25 GMT -5
Just read this classic from my childhood with my wife and daughters this morning. We also have the Batman and Supergirl volumes. What always drove me crazy about these was that they were generally far more difficult than their Choose Your Own Adventure counterparts. Thinking your options out and trying to be logical is rarely rewarded. Still, we BEAT this story today (after several do-overs, of course ), encountering and taking out an unprecedented four of the six villains contained within, and it was a lot of fun. Could Andy Helfer have guessed that he'd be running the Superman office only four years later?
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Post by Hoosier X on Aug 23, 2014 12:32:56 GMT -5
Just read my first ever Super-Villain Team-Up, and I LOVED it! I also have #8-13 and will be reading them this week. Is the run solid throughout? I started getting Super-Villain Team-Up about #3 or #4 and I don't think I ever missed an issue. It was pretty awesome! (In a Bronze Age, bat-schmutz crazy way.)
I was going to make a few comments but I decided against it so I won't ruin any of the surprises.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2014 13:58:54 GMT -5
Just read my first ever Super-Villain Team-Up, and I LOVED it! I also have #8-13 and will be reading them this week. Is the run solid throughout? That was the first issue of it I ever read as a kid as well. The Shroud became a favorite character until they actually used him more in the 80s and went in a way different direction with him. -M
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Post by shaxper on Aug 23, 2014 14:01:07 GMT -5
Just read my first ever Super-Villain Team-Up, and I LOVED it! I also have #8-13 and will be reading them this week. Is the run solid throughout? That was the first issue of it I ever read as a kid as well. The Shroud became a favorite character until they actually used him more in the 80s and went in a way different direction with him. -M I'm surprised he stuck around! It's weird how he clearly began as a deliberate copy of Batman only with a hot branding iron to the face. I still can't decide whether Englehart was going for goofy parody or a more serious "what if?" approach.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2014 14:03:36 GMT -5
I always saw him as a Daredevil. Doom mash up of sorts, with the branding paralleling Doom's mask trauma and the blind man trying to make good being the DD element. I never thought of the Batman parallel as a kid, but then my Batman ideas at that age were shaped by Adam West and Superfriends, not O'Neil/Adams, Englehart/Rogers or Miller.
-M
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Post by shaxper on Aug 23, 2014 14:07:02 GMT -5
I always saw him as a Daredevil. Doom mash up of sorts, with the branding paralleling Doom's mask trauma and the blind man trying to make good being the DD element. I never thought of the Batman parallel as a kid, but then my Batman ideas at that age were shaped by Adam West and Superfriends, not O'Neil/Adams, Englehart/Rogers or Miller. -M Well the origin story he provides in #7 (his first appearance) is straight out of Batman. It seems a pretty intentional nod with the identical scenario of how his parents were murdered (they leave a theater, the father stands up to a mugger, the mother cries out, etc), his dedication to justice afterward, his studying criminology but deciding he wanted to be more than a police officer, etc. I'm not sure if Batman's origin included traveling abroad to train at this point, but the cult The Shroud studied with felt exactly like Ras Al Ghul's League of Assassins, only without the branding iron.
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Post by hondobrode on Aug 23, 2014 14:25:05 GMT -5
This was an early purchase that couldn't be denied. Beautiful Keith Giffen / Frank Giacoia cover of Doom, Namor and an Atlantean turncoat warlord ? Heck yeah, I'm in. Just like DC's Secret Society of Super-Villains, Super-Villain Team-Up was so great in a Bronze Age way. Gotta get my remaining issues some day.
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Post by shaxper on Aug 23, 2014 14:28:49 GMT -5
Just like DC's Secret Society of Super-Villains Is this just as much of a must read?
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Post by hondobrode on Aug 23, 2014 14:33:05 GMT -5
Super-Villain Team-Up is better. Still love the SSoSV, but it's not to the level that SVTU is, though it was good, and some fans really love it. The story that continued over to JLA # 166-168 was excellent. One of the biggest things I liked about it was one of Paul Kirk's Manhunter clones was in it. Gorilla Grodd and Captain Comet didn't hurt either.
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Post by Hoosier X on Aug 23, 2014 16:14:44 GMT -5
Just like DC's Secret Society of Super-Villains Is this just as much of a must read? Count me in as a big fan of SSOSV! (But it is VERY Bronze Age.) My first issue was #2 and I collected it all the way until the end at a time when I wasn't reading any other DC comics regularly (though I was reading Batman and Detective sporadically at this point).
It was the first time I ever saw Darkseid or ANY Fourth World characters. I didn't like DC heroes much, but I loved some of the villains, and SSOSV was the place to see Grodd, Captain Boomerang, Sinestro, the Wizard, Copperhead, Star Sapphire (not Carol Ferris, but I don't think I knew who Carol Ferris was at this point), the Trickster and I don't know who else.
I still pull it out and read the whole run every two or three years. It's pretty silly at times, but it's a classic of its kind.
P.S. I also love the Joker series from a year or so previous.
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