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Post by Batflunkie on Feb 12, 2020 18:30:25 GMT -5
I've always liked David's work in theory, but IDK. There's just something about his stuff that makes it feel like he's trying too hard
I did like Space Cases, so there's that. But it was a Star Trek knock-off aimed at kids on Nickelodeon in the 90's and not really relevant to the discussion of comic books I feel
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Post by wildfire2099 on Feb 12, 2020 22:27:59 GMT -5
Peter David was one of the first writers who's name I recognized... I was buying Aquaman and Spider-Man 2099 as they came out.. they I went back and got his Hulk run in back issues (the Professor ones)... His more recent stuff I haven't enjoyed as much... I think 'trying too hard' is an apt description.. there's just something about it that's off.
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Post by Batflunkie on Feb 13, 2020 14:43:35 GMT -5
Peter David was one of the first writers who's name I recognized... I was buying Aquaman and Spider-Man 2099 as they came out.. they I went back and got his Hulk run in back issues (the Professor ones)... His more recent stuff I haven't enjoyed as much... I think 'trying too hard' is an apt description.. there's just something about it that's off. I did enjoy his Aquaman stuff quite a bit and thought Spider-Man 2099 was interesting, even though I don't care much for Spidey in general
I found it kind of both surprising and great at how much history and lore he crammed into Aquaman
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Post by beccabear67 on Feb 13, 2020 14:56:12 GMT -5
I really disliked most things about his Supergirl run, I should probably just get rid of the ten or whatever issues I have of it and forget it existed (they combine Matrix-blob with an earthling named Linda Danvers and there's lots of evil magical maniac fetish stuff vs. religious uptightness in some kind of uber-normal small town or something... nothing really resonated for me except I remembered riding a skateboard a few times in the late '70s. Yeah, I should just add that to a jettison pile, keep the early '90s and then the early '00s reboot + Legion. But his (Son Of) Captain Marvel is a lot of fun for one read, and also one I might recommend to not so heavy comic book readers that they would enjoy.
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 13, 2020 15:16:48 GMT -5
The problem with Peter David's Hulk run is that most of the jokes are dated. He makes references to current events and current TV shows that lose meaning if you read his books years later.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Feb 13, 2020 15:44:03 GMT -5
Finished up my re-read of Transmetropolitan. I loved this book before but this re-read moved it way up in my personal pantheon of great comics. Warren Ellis was freakin' Nostradamus. It is so much more meaningful now than it was 20 years ago. And it was plenty meaningful then. Except now I have to find something to read. Sigh.
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Post by Batflunkie on Feb 13, 2020 19:25:57 GMT -5
The problem with Peter David's Hulk run is that most of the jokes are dated. He makes references to current events and current TV shows that lose meaning if you read his books years later. I've never read a Hulk book in my life, but I'd argue that his opening to X-Factor is worse They also made the group's manager related to Dale Cooper from Twin Peaks
As I've stated before, I love Howard The Duck. But what's so great about it is that even though the book has extensive references from everything to pop culture to comic books, the story chugs along fine without you having to know what the reference is
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Post by Cei-U! on Feb 15, 2020 22:31:39 GMT -5
I haven't read much of Peter David's work. The few times I tried, I was less than impressed. My friends would tell me, "Oh, that wasn't one of his better stories. Most of the time he's awesome!" but after the tenth time I heard this I began to think that there were no "better stories" and I gave up. Admittedly, my ugly exchange with David over on CBR years ago has probably colored my opinion but I don't feel any need to dip any further into his body of work.
Cei-U! I summon the blissful ignorance!
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Post by beccabear67 on Feb 15, 2020 23:05:49 GMT -5
SpaceKnights #1-5 (2000-2001) So this continues from the old Rom Spaceknight series but they are not supposed to actually call Rom by that name so they refer to him in various ways and show his armor looking a bit different in the prologue sequence and then without armor. This mini-series written by Jim Starlin with co-plot credit to artist Chris Batista, stars the M.I.A. Rom's two adult sons and earth woman Brandy Clark, with a new threat from dark forces and new SpaceKnights to defend the realm alongside them, some with familiar names or even armor... Firefall and Starshine. Aside from a massively blatant lettering screw-up near the end over a few panels this was very well done and an exciting read. Definitely would appeal to people who like the armored fighter type Japanese anime space sagas. I see this has been reprinted (perhaps corrected?) in three volumes more recently... I hope that might mean there will be more stories of the SpaceKnights sometime sooner than later.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 2:25:51 GMT -5
I just finished the Bizarro Comics anthology TPB. It wasn't as good as I remembered. That one's going in the sell/donate pile. I also read "Funeral Arrangements" from Spectacular Spider-Man numbered in the 180s. I haven't read this since it came out, but it was every bit as good as I remembered. This run on Spec Spidey is my favorite work of Sal Buscema's, and probably my favorite work of JMD. Spectacular Spidey 200 is the final Spider-Man story, as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 16, 2020 7:01:37 GMT -5
Peter David's run on the Hulk was enjoyable but maybe my opinion is being painted by the good artists that he had working with him. The Gary Frank artwork is top notch. Yeah Cei-U!, I'm sure his moronic comments prevent you from being more impartial. You get credit for even attempting to read his work. He suffers from the disease that is running rampant in today's society- he doesn't now when to STFU.
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Post by Cei-U! on Feb 16, 2020 10:49:44 GMT -5
Peter David's run on the Hulk was enjoyable but maybe my opinion is being painted by the good artists that he had working with him. The Gary Frank artwork is top notch. Yeah Cei-U! , I'm sure his moronic comments prevent you from being more impartial. You get credit for even attempting to read his work. He suffers from the disease that is running rampant in today's society- he doesn't now when to STFU. Actually, my unpleasant encounter with the man happened after my various attempts to get into his work but, yes, it did discourage me from trying again.
Cei-U! I summon the bias!
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Post by Confessor on Feb 16, 2020 11:07:45 GMT -5
Admittedly, my ugly exchange with David over on CBR years ago has probably colored my opinion but I don't feel any need to dip any further into his body of work. Actually, my unpleasant encounter with the man happened after my various attempts to get into his work but, yes, it did discourage me from trying again. Cei-U! I summon the bias!
Come on then, don't keep us in suspense. Give us the gossip about this ugly encounter.
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Post by Cei-U! on Feb 16, 2020 11:39:57 GMT -5
Sorry, I thought I'd mentioned this before. David claimed he had a better grasp of the psychology of the physically handicapped than I did after I criticized his characterization of Aquaman after he lost his hand, then doubled down on this position after finding out about my own disability... and he wasn't at all pleaaant about it. Apparently he's off the school of thought that says you're always right as long as you never admit you're wrong.
Cei-U! I summon the stubborn cuss!
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Post by beccabear67 on Feb 16, 2020 13:54:17 GMT -5
Peter David is just a name on a comic to me, like most are. I did have a similar bizarre encounter once long ago with a woman comic artist though, it really didn't amount to anything, but yeah, they doubled-down when obviously way out past the Wile E. Coyote ledge. I figure I may have gone half as far myself a couple of times where I was wrong on something, but I will admit to it (eventually). I wonder about some comic creators getting a bit of a god complex, is it the fans and convention guest badges, or possibly the negative attention and in-depth critiquing sometimes that makes them extra defensive? Reading Ka-Zar (vol. 3?) #12-14 (1998) out of sequence from the Quicksilver/Heroes For Hire Wundagore/High Evolutionary/Isotope E storyline of the time, and it is really a great little story with some superb art in places. Nice to see a married couple going through a rough patch and coming out stronger... plus sabre-toothed cat and surrounded by dinos! Very nice by Mark Waid and a keeper!
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