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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2015 15:01:33 GMT -5
There's A LOT of 1960s Thor I haven't read, but I'm definitely intrigued by what I've seen. I currently have Marvel Masterworks: Thor, Volume Five, (reprinting Thor #131 to #140 and Thor Annual #2) and it's been great fun reading through these classics.
This volume includes the Colonizers of Rigel (I love Tana Nile! What a crazy nut she is!), the Recorder, the Black Galaxy, Ego the Living Planet (the Ego story is ten or twenty kinds of crazy), the High Evolutionary, the Knights of Wundagore (the panel where Jane Foster is teaching a classroom full of rhino-men, zebra-men, cat-men and whatever is one of the greatest panels! Right up there with the Hulk dressed as a juggling clown), the Destrpyer, Jane Foster fails at godhood and is abruptly written out of the series, Ulik, war with the trolls and a Kang appearance that is pretty weird.
Not to mention Tales of Asgard!
I've read Journey into Mystery 121-125, Thor 126-130, 141-152, and from 163 up. I plan to get that edition of Masterworks that you have at some point this summer, but the Masterworks that reprints issues 153-162 is ridiculously expensive, so I am hoping they give that the "new" Essentials treatment at some point. The recently released Thor Epic collection To Wake the Magog collects Thor 154-174 Amazonwhich is as close as your going to ge tto a reissue of an Essential or Masterworks of those issues now. -M
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jun 3, 2015 15:10:20 GMT -5
Oh good. I'm hoping that Epic Releases will drive the prices on some of the Out of Print Masterworks down. Although that doesn't seem to be happening with Thor 7. Wow.
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Post by Hoosier X on Jun 3, 2015 15:34:32 GMT -5
There's A LOT of 1960s Thor I haven't read, but I'm definitely intrigued by what I've seen. I currently have Marvel Masterworks: Thor, Volume Five, (reprinting Thor #131 to #140 and Thor Annual #2) and it's been great fun reading through these classics.
This volume includes the Colonizers of Rigel (I love Tana Nile! What a crazy nut she is!), the Recorder, the Black Galaxy, Ego the Living Planet (the Ego story is ten or twenty kinds of crazy), the High Evolutionary, the Knights of Wundagore (the panel where Jane Foster is teaching a classroom full of rhino-men, zebra-men, cat-men and whatever is one of the greatest panels! Right up there with the Hulk dressed as a juggling clown), the Destrpyer, Jane Foster fails at godhood and is abruptly written out of the series, Ulik, war with the trolls and a Kang appearance that is pretty weird.
Not to mention Tales of Asgard!
I've read Journey into Mystery 121-125, Thor 126-130, 141-152, and from 163 up. I plan to get that edition of Masterworks that you have at some point this summer, but the Masterworks that reprints issues 153-162 is ridiculously expensive, so I am hoping they give that the "new" Essentials treatment at some point. I have the first Thor Marvel Masterworks, which reprints Journey into Mystery #83 to #100. And I really got into early Thor when they were still pretty cheap, so I used to have Journey into Mystery #101 to #111. (And I didn't pay more than $4 for any of them. They were in VG/F condition.)
Through various reprints, I've now read Journey into Mystery #112, the issues reprinted in Bring on the Bad Guys, Thor #126 to #130 (the storyline where Thor goes to Hades to free Hercules from Pluto), #131 to #140, #146, #154 to #157.
After that, I've read a few scattered issues from the early 1970s - #197, 206, 207, 228, 231 - and then I started reading Thor at about #241. (I've probably read a few others that I'm not remembering right now.)
I was kind of surprised that Jane Foster just seemed to get booted from the series when she failed her godhood test. Was she really gone from the series after that? (I seem to remember she came back for a short time in the 1970s.)
Added later: I thought of a couple more. Thor #143 is reprinted in The Origins of Marvel Comics and Thor #150 is reprinted in The Superhero Women, so I've read both of those.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jun 3, 2015 15:43:14 GMT -5
Invasion #1-3
It's been a slow week, and a really slow day at work, so I have some reading material here and some time to read it.
I've read this several times, and enjoy it. It's a good fit for McFarlane (outside my usual complaint of his disfigured human faces) with all the machinery, alien species and worlds. They fit is style or art real well. The Bart Sears third issue is just as good as the first two. If anything, in my opinion some great art, but I do like the story as well. The alien species aligning themselves all under mistrust and malevolent intentions show humans aren't the only species that can't get along. I can't say when I first read this, not in 1988, when it came out, so not sure the impact it was intended to have on the DC universe but it had a good impact on me and I like to visit it again when I can. This time I have done a bit of research and am looking to find some more Dominator appearances. Looks like Adventure Comics #361 is their first appearance.
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Post by paulie on Jun 3, 2015 15:59:11 GMT -5
Invasion #1-3 It's been a slow week, and a really slow day at work, so I have some reading material here and some time to read it. I've read this several times, and enjoy it. It's a good fit for McFarlane (outside my usual complaint of his disfigured human faces) with all the machinery, alien species and worlds. They fit is style or art real well. The Bart Sears third issue is just as good as the first two. If anything, in my opinion some great art, but I do like the story as well. The alien species aligning themselves all under mistrust and malevolent intentions show humans aren't the only species that can't get along. I can't say when I first read this, not in 1988, when it came out, so not sure the impact it was intended to have on the DC universe but it had a good impact on me and I like to visit it again when I can. This time I have done a bit of research and am looking to find some more Dominator appearances. Looks like Adventure Comics #361 is their first appearance. I liked Invasion as well even though it has been many years since I have read it. It had a whole lot of DC space and cosmic continuity in it that was nice to see after the Crisis. Giffen made the Dominatorsinto fantastic bad guys when he did the 5YL Legion reboot.
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Post by Rob Allen on Jun 3, 2015 16:51:05 GMT -5
Thor goes to Hades to free Hercules from Plato Did you have a bad experience in Philosophy class, Hoosier? (Sorry, I don't usually pounce on typos but this one was funnier than most)
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Post by Hoosier X on Jun 3, 2015 19:05:58 GMT -5
Thor goes to Hades to free Hercules from Plato Did you have a bad experience in Philosophy class, Hoosier? (Sorry, I don't usually pounce on typos but this one was funnier than most) It was Kirby at his finest! Plato led a group of resurrected Greek philosophers and they kidnapped Hercules and took him to Hades! Fortunately Thor was able to get the Greek playwrights - Aeschylus, Sophocles, Euripides and Aristophanes - to help him get to Hades where they rescued Hercules.
That was an amusing typo. I went ahead and fixed it.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jun 4, 2015 16:15:54 GMT -5
Legends #1-6
It's been a while since I read this. But coming across the tie in Warlord issue that I read recently I decided to try it out again. I thought about the same as I did of it before I guess. I enjoy Ostrander/Wein's story and the idea of Darkseid's scheme in this one over the usual "try to kill or overpower" the heroes schemes most megalomaniac villains get written into. I still think Darksied's ruse for Billy/Cap Marvel was probably the best of all the plans to break the hero's legends. Nice emotional ending with the children and seeing Jason Todd as Robin lead the way to helping shut Godfrey up. I know most people don't like Jason, but him and Tim are my favorites.
But as before I wished there was someone else besides Byrne doing the art. I don't dislike it, but it wears on me half way though the series. His art begins to become bland somehow. Not that there is a change in the art quality or anything, but for me it's like staring at those three dimensional posters. I know I am suppose to see something, but I am just one of those people that can't. It's the only minus to Sensational She-Hulk. There really could have been a better artists on that series for sure.
Deadpool #1-4 (1994)
Waid writes a fairly good story of Deadpool, as he gets caught in the middle of family matters of Sean and Black Tom Cassidy. He teams up with Teresa (Siyrn) while Sean goes to get a lead on why Black Tom wants Deadpool alive. The Juggernaut even comes after him. Deadpool and Teresa start to form a pretty good bond, both learning that the other isn't all what they were told about him. It includes some great banter of Deadpool's, as always .. Pardon me but your face is in my elbow. Crikey did I cut in on you? Cut in. Get it? Laugh with me. Wow. Whaddaya know? Logic stops the Juggernaut!
I can get that he's a pretty "one-note" character, and not very deep. (Well at least not until Joe Kelly or even Gail Simone get a crack at him.) But his one note is entertaining, and something that makes for "light" reading I guess. It's about what Deadpool was when Nicieza and Liefield created him in New Mutants and X-Force. He pretty much continues this way till his ongoing. Not that even then he changed so much that he still doesn't have his one note, he just has a few more notes than that one. I can't say what's been done with him after the first ongoing series ended though. He might actually be completely deplorable now. It's not like comic characters haven't been ruined by bad writing, corporate greed or editorial mandates before. And I am sure as a comic child of the 90's I'll be in the minority in liking Ian Churchill's art in this series. But I do.
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Post by The Captain on Jun 10, 2015 11:29:18 GMT -5
I'm continuing my read through classic Thor, making my way up into the 220's over the past couple of days. It's an interesting mix of sci-fi (the Black Planets storyline was heavy into that) and traditional mythological elements (immediately following the Black Planets, we get a two issue team-up with Hercules that also included Zeus, Ares, and Pluto). John Buscema does some very nice full page splashes (and in some cases, both pages), and Gerry Conway's writing is pretty good (he tells a nice story, but elements like the Olympians speaking with the same Shakesperean flair as the Asgardians bugged me a little bit, as he should have tried to give the Greeks their own voice rather than just copying the Norse).
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Post by Hoosier X on Jun 10, 2015 11:57:32 GMT -5
I'm continuing my read through classic Thor, making my way up into the 220's over the past couple of days. It's an interesting mix of sci-fi (the Black Planets storyline was heavy into that) and traditional mythological elements (immediately following the Black Planets, we get a two issue team-up with Hercules that also included Zeus, Ares, and Pluto). John Buscema does some very nice full page splashes (and in some cases, both pages), and Gerry Conway's writing is pretty good (he tells a nice story, but elements like the Olympians speaking with the same Shakesperean flair as the Asgardians bugged me a little bit, as he should have tried to give the Greeks their own voice rather than just copying the Norse). Have you seen the subplot where Odin has given himself amnesia and he's walking around Earth in a suit, carrying a cane and wearing a fedora like he's a king-size Monty Woolley?
I only saw one or two issues with that subplot and I don't think I ever did figure out what that was about. But those images have stayed with me for decades.
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Post by Crimebuster on Jun 10, 2015 11:57:38 GMT -5
I'm continuing my read through classic Thor, making my way up into the 220's over the past couple of days. It's an interesting mix of sci-fi (the Black Planets storyline was heavy into that) and traditional mythological elements (immediately following the Black Planets, we get a two issue team-up with Hercules that also included Zeus, Ares, and Pluto). John Buscema does some very nice full page splashes (and in some cases, both pages), and Gerry Conway's writing is pretty good (he tells a nice story, but elements like the Olympians speaking with the same Shakesperean flair as the Asgardians bugged me a little bit, as he should have tried to give the Greeks their own voice rather than just copying the Norse). Conway's run has some good stuff, but it's also... I mean, the story where Odin is kidnapped by aliens and sold into slavery after they drug his soup is an all-time head-scratcher.
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Post by Crimebuster on Jun 10, 2015 11:59:43 GMT -5
I'm continuing my read through classic Thor, making my way up into the 220's over the past couple of days. It's an interesting mix of sci-fi (the Black Planets storyline was heavy into that) and traditional mythological elements (immediately following the Black Planets, we get a two issue team-up with Hercules that also included Zeus, Ares, and Pluto). John Buscema does some very nice full page splashes (and in some cases, both pages), and Gerry Conway's writing is pretty good (he tells a nice story, but elements like the Olympians speaking with the same Shakesperean flair as the Asgardians bugged me a little bit, as he should have tried to give the Greeks their own voice rather than just copying the Norse). Have you seen the subplot where Odin has given himself amnesia and he's walking around Earth in a suit, carrying a cane and wearing a fedora like he's a king-size Monty Woolley?
I only saw one or two issues with that subplot and I don't think I ever did figure out what that was about. But those images have stayed with me for decades.
That storyline was actually pretty interesting, but like most of Conway's big ideas during his run, it ended up fizzling at the end. He had some really good setups that didn't deliver. I wonder how much of that was editorial not allowing him to really go where he wanted to go. The idea was that Odin decided he needed to get a taste of his own medicine and learn about humanity/humility just like he made Thor do with the DOn Blake thing. So Odin turned himself "human" and gave himself amnesia to live among us for a time.
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Post by Nowhere Man on Jun 10, 2015 12:06:30 GMT -5
But as before I wished there was someone else besides Byrne doing the art. I don't dislike it, but it wears on me half way though the series. His art begins to become bland somehow. Not that there is a change in the art quality or anything, but for me it's like staring at those three dimensional posters. I know I am suppose to see something, but I am just one of those people that can't. It's the only minus to Sensational She-Hulk. There really could have been a better artists on that series for sure. Wow, I'm surprised you didn't like Byrne's art in Legends. I think this is Byrne at his zenith, particularly with Kesel as his inker. I can't think of many mainstream superhero artists that would have been "better" in my eyes during this period.
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Post by Nowhere Man on Jun 10, 2015 12:13:32 GMT -5
In addition to reading Marvel circa 1961-1970 (Kirby's last FF is the end point as of now) in chronological order, I've finally started reading some of my Superman and Batman trades again. I'm currently reading the 75 years collections for Superman and Batman and I'm also going to start my B&B Jim Aparo Vol.2 and Jose Luis Garcia Lopez Superman collection, probably tomorrow.
I've been reading a ton of Prince Valiant lately, and after finishing Vol.5, I'm going to catch up on some of the other collections I've bought recently but haven't read yet. I LOVE Hal Foster's work on this and can't wait to get back into it. I'm also going to start my second Uncle Scrooge collection, "Seven Cities of Gold," within the next few days.
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Post by The Captain on Jun 10, 2015 12:18:38 GMT -5
I'm continuing my read through classic Thor, making my way up into the 220's over the past couple of days. It's an interesting mix of sci-fi (the Black Planets storyline was heavy into that) and traditional mythological elements (immediately following the Black Planets, we get a two issue team-up with Hercules that also included Zeus, Ares, and Pluto). John Buscema does some very nice full page splashes (and in some cases, both pages), and Gerry Conway's writing is pretty good (he tells a nice story, but elements like the Olympians speaking with the same Shakesperean flair as the Asgardians bugged me a little bit, as he should have tried to give the Greeks their own voice rather than just copying the Norse). Have you seen the subplot where Odin has given himself amnesia and he's walking around Earth in a suit, carrying a cane and wearing a fedora like he's a king-size Monty Woolley?
I only saw one or two issues with that subplot and I don't think I ever did figure out what that was about. But those images have stayed with me for decades.
Nope, I haven't seen that one yet, but it sounds pretty bad. I'm continuing my read through classic Thor, making my way up into the 220's over the past couple of days. It's an interesting mix of sci-fi (the Black Planets storyline was heavy into that) and traditional mythological elements (immediately following the Black Planets, we get a two issue team-up with Hercules that also included Zeus, Ares, and Pluto). John Buscema does some very nice full page splashes (and in some cases, both pages), and Gerry Conway's writing is pretty good (he tells a nice story, but elements like the Olympians speaking with the same Shakesperean flair as the Asgardians bugged me a little bit, as he should have tried to give the Greeks their own voice rather than just copying the Norse). Conway's run has some good stuff, but it's also... I mean, the story where Odin is kidnapped by aliens and sold into slavery after they drug his soup is an all-time head-scratcher. I just finished that story with Odin being kidnapped by aliens last week and thought it was pretty bad, but then Conway redeems himself with the next couple of stories, so it was quickly forgiven.
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