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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Mar 3, 2017 16:01:29 GMT -5
Ah, very cool. I haven't played 3, only 1 and 2, but it sounds exactly like 1 and 2, lol, so if you like that one, you should like the first two. I'm pretty stoked - I picked up the ne Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild for Wii U despite my better judgement and current financial responsibilities. I had some birthday money that was going to go toward the credit card bill, but with it winning perfect scores and being ranked the top-rated game of all time and being universally praised as amazing, I got excited and nabbed it on my lunch break. Haven't opened it yet, though, so if the wife is particularly unthrilled I can return it, but I don't think she will mind since it came from money I wasn't expecting. So stoked to try it this weekend if I can stay awake after everyone else is asleep. I'd like to hear what you think. I don't think I am going to buy a Switch for sometime, so I think if I get it I will go the Wii U route too. But I haven't read or watched much on it, to keep it surprise. I'm more interested in just how it stacks up to previous entries in the series. |
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Post by impulse on Mar 3, 2017 16:56:54 GMT -5
Yeah, this is the most recent Zelda I will play to any significant degree (not counting playing around for a few minutes) since A Link to the Past on SNES, so I don't have much to compare it to, but reviews are universally excellent. Consensus seems to be it's best in the series, but we will see. I will be happy to report back here.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Mar 4, 2017 11:06:59 GMT -5
My wife found the Link and Mario Wii U PDP fight pads, as they call them, on clearance at Walmart for $9 each. They're kind of like a GC controller you plug into your Wiimote and can be used on the Wii and Wii U. She also got the Mario & Luigi steering wheels for Mario Kart on the Wii and Wii U for $4 each. I don't use the latter but the kids like them: m.imgur.com/a/1LsWB And I'll like using the controllers for the VC stuff on our Wii. The Wiimote is really only good for NES games. Edit: Nice. I can even play RE4 Wii Edition with these controllers. It's like playing it on the GC. |
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Post by impulse on Mar 4, 2017 16:36:12 GMT -5
Very nice! I need to keep my eyes out for people unloading Wii U stuff on the cheap.
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Post by sunofdarkchild on Mar 5, 2017 2:35:20 GMT -5
Will get a Switch and Zelda for it in a few months when I have more money and the system is more available, not to mention has more games.
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Post by impulse on Mar 10, 2017 15:49:12 GMT -5
Ok, I'm by no means super far, but I'm far enough along I can form some opinions. Zelda is good. Is it the best game ever made like the reviews suggest? No, of course not. Is it particularly new or innovative? No, not really. I haven't seen anything in this game that hasn't been done before, but Nintendo does it very well. It's like a mix of a JRPG in tone and dialog and a super simplified Elder Scrolls game (Oblivion/Skyrim) game but not a buggy piece of crap. They have a lot of similar open-world RPG gameplay elects - foraging, cooking, weather, day and night, villages, etc, finding weapons, they break down you find more ,etc. There are shops and you can buy and sell, etc. It's very simplified and toned down compared to what I've seen other games implement, but it's all done with Nintendo quality.
The art style is gorgeous. I don't seem to be missing anything playing on Wii U as opposed to Switch aside from the features they scrapped from Wii U when they found out it had to be on both systems (this is more disappointing than anything in the game so far). I have a few nitpicks, but by and large, it's a very good game. It's not mind-blowingly amazing like the early buzz suggests, but it is very solid. Perhaps if this was the first game of this type I had ever played I would be completely blown away, but as it stands now, it's a simple but perfectly fine game.
The dialog with the female shopkeepers is a little awkward, though...
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Mar 11, 2017 20:16:51 GMT -5
Very nice to hear impulse. I think I'll surprise my boys, and treat myself to this game on the Wii U.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Mar 12, 2017 14:22:55 GMT -5
impulse, I forgot what device you were telling me about where you can use an Xbox 360 controller on the PC. I remember you telling me about it and I can't recall what it is to do a search.
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Post by Warmonger on Mar 12, 2017 19:15:05 GMT -5
impulse I forgot what device you were telling me about where you can use an Xbox 360 controller on the PC. I remember you telling me about it and I can't recall what it is to do a search. I've never had to use any device You should be able to just plug the 360 controller into one of your USB ports and it will automatically download the drivers for it. |
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Post by sunofdarkchild on Mar 13, 2017 3:21:16 GMT -5
Based off of the reviews and the footage I've seen, what sets the new Zelda apart from other open world games is how it incorporates the Zelda puzzle system into the overworld design, making the entire world not just an expanse to cross or a world to explore, but a puzzle in and of itself. It's like combining the physics of Half Life 2 or Portal with the freedom of Skyrim, the gigantic, hand-made, go-anywhere world of Xenoblade Chronicles X, elements from other open world games like Far Cry, and even elements from some of Nintendo's other games like Fire Emblem.
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Post by impulse on Mar 13, 2017 11:17:26 GMT -5
Very nice to hear impulse. I think I'll surprise my boys, and treat myself to this game on the Wii U. You should! It's a blast. Unlike past Zelda games, there aren't multiple save slots, but you can get around this by making sure whoever is playing signs into the system with their Mii. That keeps your save files separate from your boys', etc. impulse I forgot what device you were telling me about where you can use an Xbox 360 controller on the PC. I remember you telling me about it and I can't recall what it is to do a search. Microsoft Xbox 360 Wireless Receiver for Windows. www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Xbox-Wireless-Receiver-Windows/dp/B000HZFCT2impulse I forgot what device you were telling me about where you can use an Xbox 360 controller on the PC. I remember you telling me about it and I can't recall what it is to do a search. I've never had to use any device You should be able to just plug the 360 controller into one of your USB ports and it will automatically download the drivers for it. I assumed he meant for wireless, but yes, I believe you are correct for wired since Windows since....version 7 I think supports the XBOX 360 controllers natively. Based off of the reviews and the footage I've seen, what sets the new Zelda apart from other open world games is how it incorporates the Zelda puzzle system into the overworld design, making the entire world not just an expanse to cross or a world to explore, but a puzzle in and of itself. It's like combining the physics of Half Life 2 or Portal with the freedom of Skyrim, the gigantic, hand-made, go-anywhere world of Xenoblade Chronicles X, elements from other open world games like Far Cry, and even elements from some of Nintendo's other games like Fire Emblem. That's interesting to read. I don't really see evidence of it so far. Yes, there are lots of puzzles to do along the way, and some have to be completed before you can move onto new areas. That's more interesting than having to do a bunch of fetch quests before you can move on, but at the end of the day it's not that dissimilar from other games. Not to sound cynical, but I think equating anything in this Zelda to the physics of Portal or HL2 is exceedingly generous. Don't get me wrong, still a very good and well-made game, but I am probably somewhere between 10-20 hours in, and I don't see any massive innovation or hugely new take on the formula. To expand on some of my nitpicks and tie into reading they removed features from Wii U version after being told it was going to launch on the new system, too, there is a huge wasted opportunity with the Wii U gamepad. Since there is so much to explore and some stuff to mark and come back to when you're stronger, it would have been amazing if the gamepad could have persistently showed the map and let you write on it. You can mark it with stamps and such, but if you could put your own notes, amazing, and see as you move. Would be super helpful. Also to nitpick, and I read this complaint elsewhere and I agree, I wish there was a way to save common recipes to easily cook the same thing. As it is, you have to remember what it was and manually cook it every single time, and sit through the animation, etc. You can skip it once it starts, but you still have to wait a while and manually select all the ingredients.. Instead, I wish I could discover a recipe and then tell Link to cook 8x more since I have that many ingredients worth, etc. Still, these are just nitpicks. |
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Post by sunofdarkchild on Mar 13, 2017 11:58:02 GMT -5
Haven't played it yet, I admit. Ordered the special edition, and the game is going to arrive likely before I even get a Switch. I'm basing my opinion on the reviews and and other commentaries I've read and seen, as well as videos of the game.
Like this. So much of this I'd never think to do, but the physics and the AI and the options blow me away. An enemy catching your boomerang. Tricking an enemy into attacking a cuckoo so he gets swarmed. The wind physics in particular are fantastic.
There are also comparison videos showing the difference in interactivity with the environment, physics, and animal AI between Zelda and Horizon Zero Dawn. Horizon may be great, but in all of those categories Zelda blows it out of the water.
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Post by lobsterjohnson on Mar 13, 2017 12:02:14 GMT -5
Very nice to hear impulse. I think I'll surprise my boys, and treat myself to this game on the Wii U. You should! It's a blast. Unlike past Zelda games, there aren't multiple save slots, but you can get around this by making sure whoever is playing signs into the system with their Mii. That keeps your save files separate from your boys', etc. impulse I forgot what device you were telling me about where you can use an Xbox 360 controller on the PC. I remember you telling me about it and I can't recall what it is to do a search. Microsoft Xbox 360 Wireless Receiver for Windows. www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Xbox-Wireless-Receiver-Windows/dp/B000HZFCT2I've never had to use any device You should be able to just plug the 360 controller into one of your USB ports and it will automatically download the drivers for it. I assumed he meant for wireless, but yes, I believe you are correct for wired since Windows since....version 7 I think supports the XBOX 360 controllers natively. Based off of the reviews and the footage I've seen, what sets the new Zelda apart from other open world games is how it incorporates the Zelda puzzle system into the overworld design, making the entire world not just an expanse to cross or a world to explore, but a puzzle in and of itself. It's like combining the physics of Half Life 2 or Portal with the freedom of Skyrim, the gigantic, hand-made, go-anywhere world of Xenoblade Chronicles X, elements from other open world games like Far Cry, and even elements from some of Nintendo's other games like Fire Emblem. That's interesting to read. I don't really see evidence of it so far. Yes, there are lots of puzzles to do along the way, and some have to be completed before you can move onto new areas. That's more interesting than having to do a bunch of fetch quests before you can move on, but at the end of the day it's not that dissimilar from other games. Not to sound cynical, but I think equating anything in this Zelda to the physics of Portal or HL2 is exceedingly generous. Don't get me wrong, still a very good and well-made game, but I am probably somewhere between 10-20 hours in, and I don't see any massive innovation or hugely new take on the formula. To expand on some of my nitpicks and tie into reading they removed features from Wii U version after being told it was going to launch on the new system, too, there is a huge wasted opportunity with the Wii U gamepad. Since there is so much to explore and some stuff to mark and come back to when you're stronger, it would have been amazing if the gamepad could have persistently showed the map and let you write on it. You can mark it with stamps and such, but if you could put your own notes, amazing, and see as you move. Would be super helpful. Also to nitpick, and I read this complaint elsewhere and I agree, I wish there was a way to save common recipes to easily cook the same thing. As it is, you have to remember what it was and manually cook it every single time, and sit through the animation, etc. You can skip it once it starts, but you still have to wait a while and manually select all the ingredients.. Instead, I wish I could discover a recipe and then tell Link to cook 8x more since I have that many ingredients worth, etc. Still, these are just nitpicks. How interesting is the open world? My biggest problem with open world games tends to be sparse game worlds with not a lot to do (like Far Cry once the outposts are cleared). |
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Post by impulse on Mar 13, 2017 14:05:27 GMT -5
There's a lot of open space. You can cut grass and bushes like past Zelda games for items, and you can hunt in the forests, but it's a bit more sparse than I would like. You can mine and do stuff. Not drastically more or less sparse than others, I guess? To be fair, I've only been to like 2 and half of the 6 or 7 major land areas so far, so maybe that changes.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Mar 18, 2017 11:41:46 GMT -5
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