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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jul 13, 2016 22:06:01 GMT -5
It's a mitigation between the classic and new movie threads but I'm not wrapping my head around the hate for the reboot. Usually when there's hate for a new take on something old the original is good and so maybe the hate is justified. But I can't see it in this case.
*dodges rocks*
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 13, 2016 22:42:40 GMT -5
It's a mitigation between the classic and new movie threads but I'm not wrapping my head around the hate for the reboot. Usually when there's hate for a new take on something old the original is good and so maybe the hate is justified. But I can't see it in this case. *dodges rocks* Nerds gotta have something to bitch about.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jul 13, 2016 22:54:51 GMT -5
It's a mitigation between the classic and new movie threads but I'm not wrapping my head around the hate for the reboot. Usually when there's hate for a new take on something old the original is good and so maybe the hate is justified. But I can't see it in this case. *dodges rocks* Nerds gotta have something to bitch about. Maybe not justified but perhaps understandable. The remakes of The Day the Earth Stood Still and War of the Worlds come to mind as remakes that while weren't comparable to the originals but still decent films in their own way. But I never got the love for Ghostbusters. Granted I didn't watch it at the time; religiously endoctrinated child, but when I did see them I didn't get the cult following.
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Post by impulse on Jul 14, 2016 10:11:19 GMT -5
No, I'm with you. I'm just passing along the view of the Academy. Oh, wow. I missed that. I looked it up after your post, and how bizarre. Did they even watch the movie? Wow. It certainly has some humor, but it is definitely not a comedy or musical. It's a mitigation between the classic and new movie threads but I'm not wrapping my head around the hate for the reboot. Usually when there's hate for a new take on something old the original is good and so maybe the hate is justified. But I can't see it in this case. *dodges rocks* I can't say for sure whether I would be as fond of the original if not being being a kid when it came out and/or my time watching the cartoon shows, but ouch! Nerds gotta have something to bitch about. I think that's part of it. There was always going to be some group who would complain because someone complains about everything. The usual remake trolls and unfortunately with the gender swap of the cast, the misogynist trolls, but I think a good bit of the early criticism or at least concern was justified as none of the advanced materials seemed all that appealing.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jul 14, 2016 11:03:18 GMT -5
It's a mitigation between the classic and new movie threads but I'm not wrapping my head around the hate for the reboot. Usually when there's hate for a new take on something old the original is good and so maybe the hate is justified. But I can't see it in this case. *dodges rocks* I can't say for sure whether I would be as fond of the original if not being being a kid when it came out and/or my time watching the cartoon shows, but ouch! I think it really suffered from me not having see it as a child. I also remember being pretty unimpressed when my wife showed me Goonies and the movie about the kids tracking down the Universal Monsters. Something Squad? But then she is the same with my childhood movies that I think are so great. :-)
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Post by berkley on Jul 14, 2016 16:51:10 GMT -5
I saw Ghostbusters when it came out and enjoyed it for what it was but never felt any need to watch it again or to see any of the sequels or remakes.
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Post by dupersuper on Jul 14, 2016 19:45:19 GMT -5
I can't say for sure whether I would be as fond of the original if not being being a kid when it came out and/or my time watching the cartoon shows, but ouch! the movie about the kids tracking down the Universal Monsters. Something Squad? Monster Squad...
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jul 15, 2016 8:15:27 GMT -5
the movie about the kids tracking down the Universal Monsters. Something Squad? Monster Squad... Lol Duh. How did I not put two and two together?
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Post by impulse on Jul 15, 2016 9:07:01 GMT -5
Lol Duh. How did I not put two and two together? All I remember from that movie is watching it at a family friend's house as a kid and a part where the kids are telling one of the other kids to kick Wolfman in the nuts. "I don't think he has any!" "Just do it!" He does. That scene has bee randomly retained in my memory for 20+ years. Go, team?
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Post by Gene on Jul 15, 2016 15:12:35 GMT -5
I love Monster Squad so friggin' much it isn't even funny.
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Post by Nowhere Man on Jul 15, 2016 15:32:08 GMT -5
A fair point on the one hand, but on the other, by calling it Ghostbusters, pre-conceived notions and comparisons are inevitable. Yes, people should try to take it on its own for what it is, but it is nearly impossible to remain completely objective when the filmmakers leverage an existing property. They can't have their cake and eat it, too. Agreed, and reviews are good. As skeptical as I have been on this one, I'm happy to change my opinion in light of new data. The backlash before there were even trailers was way over the top, but the trailer didn't encourage me much, so there being good reviews is at least eyebrow raising. The preferred target demographic for movie goers is the 18-34 year-olds. The oldest of that group was 2 years old when the original came out and were more likely exposed to the animated series moreso than the movies themselves as a first contact scenario. The youngest were't born until long after the movies had gone fallow and were things in a video store rather than an active franchise at the forefront of pop culture. I think it is a fair expectation that the target demographic does not have the same preconceived notions and expectations that us old foggies who have aged beyond the target demographic have because we were there when the original hit. So, when Millennials are the target demographic (and Millennials are defined as 18-34 year olds), more and more media is going to be targeted towards their expectations than our or previous generations. Part of the resentment I believe stems from those of our generation realizing they are irrelevant in target demographics now and upset things are no longer targeted to their tastes. Now get off my lawn. -M I agree with this, but it can't be denied that Millennials, the desired demographic, are getting far more remakes and rehashes than we got when we were the target. I'm 38, so I'm just now out of it, but I don't recall many remakes during the late 80's and early 90's, at least not in the summer blockbuster realm. I do remember a lot of bad sequels, however. I think the fact that most of these remakes are mediocre at best fuels a lot of the resentment.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2016 15:50:46 GMT -5
The preferred target demographic for movie goers is the 18-34 year-olds. The oldest of that group was 2 years old when the original came out and were more likely exposed to the animated series moreso than the movies themselves as a first contact scenario. The youngest were't born until long after the movies had gone fallow and were things in a video store rather than an active franchise at the forefront of pop culture. I think it is a fair expectation that the target demographic does not have the same preconceived notions and expectations that us old foggies who have aged beyond the target demographic have because we were there when the original hit. So, when Millennials are the target demographic (and Millennials are defined as 18-34 year olds), more and more media is going to be targeted towards their expectations than our or previous generations. Part of the resentment I believe stems from those of our generation realizing they are irrelevant in target demographics now and upset things are no longer targeted to their tastes. Now get off my lawn. -M I agree with this, but it can't be denied that Millennials, the desired demographic, are getting far more remakes and rehashes than we got when we were the target. I'm 38, so I'm just now out of it, but I don't recall many remakes during the late 80's and early 90's, at least not in the summer blockbuster realm. I do remember a lot of bad sequels, however. I think the fact that most of these remakes are mediocre at best fuels a lot of the resentment. A quick google search turned up over 30 movies released between 1980 and 1996 that were remakes and that was only movies starting with the letters A-D, so I think there were a lot more remakes than you were aware of, but the difference now is they are making remakes of movies you saw the original rather than of originals that were form before your time so you are more aware of it now, plus we now live in the video age where older movies are a lot more available than they were in the pre-video age where you only encountered movies when they were in the theatre or broadcast on a tv station somewhere. -M
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Post by Pharozonk on Jul 15, 2016 19:35:22 GMT -5
I finally saw it and while it wasn't as unfathomably awful as the trailers seemed to suggest, it's a colossal bore of a movie. The humor is very juvennile so young kids might like it, but most adults will probably roll their eyes.
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Post by Bronze Age Brian on Jul 23, 2016 0:55:38 GMT -5
Another Blair Witch movie is coming out. I enjoyed the first one but the ending was sort of a let down. This new movie intends to show what happened after the first movie's ending and then some. The movie screened at Comic Con tonight and early reviews are great. That's good to know since the trailer looks mostly like a retread from the first movie.
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Post by impulse on Jul 26, 2016 9:47:40 GMT -5
I finally saw it and while it wasn't as unfathomably awful as the trailers seemed to suggest, it's a colossal bore of a movie. The humor is very juvennile so young kids might like it, but most adults will probably roll their eyes. Shame, but this is about what I expected.
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