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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Mar 31, 2016 8:34:09 GMT -5
As I was yesterday sorting some of my original artwork, I was happy to reconnect with my Judge Dreed piece by Gary Frank. Then it stuck me : he never ever drew for 2000AD! So that got me thinking about how every single major british artist/writer that was published in american comic books had been published in 2000AD or Judge Dredd Megazine, or so it seemed.
The few exceptions I could think of along Gary Frank would be Ian Churchill and Nabiel Kanan...
Any other names we can come up with?
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Post by tingramretro on Apr 1, 2016 2:21:59 GMT -5
Bryan Hitch immediately comes to mind, mostly because I was reading some of his stuff yesterday. Got his start with Marvel UK before going to work for Marvel and DC in the US. Likewise Gary Frank, amongst others, though the problem becomes how do you define "major"; an awful lot of British creators have wrked in the US and made a good living out of it over many years but never become big names. Probably of the current crop, James Robinson would best fit the bill, though I believe he did work on Crisis, which could arguably be considered a part of the 2000 AD family. Of course, if I was being pedantic, I would say that the most obvious examples of a British writer and a British artist who became major names despite never working for the 2000 AD stable are Chris Claremont (born in London, holds dual citizenship) and John Byrne (born in West Bromwich, lived there as a child before emigrating to Canada aged eight, again holds dual citizenship).
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Apr 1, 2016 7:02:45 GMT -5
Crisis definitively counts for 2000 AD.
How could I forget about Hitch!!! Yes that's a major one.
"Major" would obviously be ones who made an impact of sorts at DC/Marvel/Dark Horse/Fantagraphics/Image and a few others, or had a real indie hit that lasted more than a few issues.
Byrne and Claremont wouldn't qualify since they started their carreer in the US and had no british published work in their formative years, but good call.
So the list is so far pretty thin, with 3-4 names only!
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Post by Dizzy D on Apr 1, 2016 7:54:00 GMT -5
Is this just artists or writers as well (as Claremont was mentioned). I'm not sure but I don't think Paul Jenkins has done work for 2000AD?
As for artists.. did Don Lawrence ever work for 2000AD?
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Post by tingramretro on Apr 1, 2016 8:07:59 GMT -5
Is this just artists or writers as well (as Claremont was mentioned). I'm not sure but I don't think Paul Jenkins has done work for 2000AD? As for artists.. did Don Lawrence ever work for 2000AD? Neither Paul Jenkins or Don Lawrence ever worked for 2000 AD or any associated publication. |
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Post by chaykinstevens on Apr 1, 2016 11:13:35 GMT -5
John Byrne drew a Judge Dredd strip in the 1983 2000 AD Sci-Fi Special.
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Post by tingramretro on Apr 1, 2016 13:18:29 GMT -5
John Byrne drew a Judge Dredd strip in the 1983 2000 AD Sci-Fi Special. I'd completely forgotten that, if indeed it had ever previously registered with me, so I dug out a copy of the Special. Very atypical of Byrne's usual style, I feel, until you get to one particular face and it becomes obvious...  |
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Post by chaykinstevens on Apr 1, 2016 16:05:16 GMT -5
Would Jim Cheung, Simon Gane, Antony Johnston, Jamie McKelvie, Mike McKone or Andi Watson qualify?
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Post by tingramretro on Apr 2, 2016 1:36:31 GMT -5
Would Jim Cheung, Simon Gane, Antony Johnston, Jamie McKelvie, Mike McKone or Andi Watson qualify? I'm kind of conflicted on these, since while they are unquestionably British creators of comics, they are for the most part not creators of British comics. How are we defing a "UK artist"? An artist from the UK, or one who has actually worked here? I was being rather facetious earlier when I mentioned Claremont and Byrne (though Claremont did write Captain Britain) but this is a question worth asking, I think. |
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Apr 2, 2016 11:41:53 GMT -5
Would Jim Cheung, Simon Gane, Antony Johnston, Jamie McKelvie, Mike McKone or Andi Watson qualify? I'm kind of conflicted on these, since while they are unquestionably British creators of comics, they are for the most part not creators of British comics. How are we defing a "UK artist"? An artist from the UK, or one who has actually worked here? I was being rather facetious earlier when I mentioned Claremont and Byrne (though Claremont did write Captain Britain) but this is a question worth asking, I think. Well, in my initial thought while opening the topic, I was refering to UK creators published in the UK before breaking into the US/global market without having ever contributing to 2000AD/Megazine/Starlord/Crisis/etc to help launch their career. I'm interested in that pattern, so even if that Byrne strip is a nice exception, it didn't really bring him to the attention of anyone. Still a very nice exception I wasn't aware of. Jenkins, Churchill, Jim Cheung, Simon Gane, Antony Johnston, Jamie McKelvie, Mike McKone and Andi Watson all started their career straight in the US. Only Gary Frank and Bryan Hitch so far started their career in the UK and never contributed to the 2000AD world. Don Lawrence would also qualify, but he really didn't have a career beyond the local UK market, didn't he? |
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Post by tingramretro on Apr 2, 2016 12:53:20 GMT -5
I'm kind of conflicted on these, since while they are unquestionably British creators of comics, they are for the most part not creators of British comics. How are we defing a "UK artist"? An artist from the UK, or one who has actually worked here? I was being rather facetious earlier when I mentioned Claremont and Byrne (though Claremont did write Captain Britain) but this is a question worth asking, I think. Well, in my initial thought while opening the topic, I was refering to UK creators published in the UK before breaking into the US/global market without having ever contributing to 2000AD/Megazine/Starlord/Crisis/etc to help launch their career. I'm interested in that pattern, so even if that Byrne strip is a nice exception, it didn't really bring him to the attention of anyone. Still a very nice exception I wasn't aware of. Jenkins, Churchill, Jim Cheung, Simon Gane, Antony Johnston, Jamie McKelvie, Mike McKone and Andi Watson all started their career straight in the US. Only Gary Frank and Bryan Hitch so far started their career in the UK and never contributed to the 2000AD world. Don Lawrence would also qualify, but he really didn't have a career beyond the local UK market, didn't he? Actually, Don Lawrence had quite a successful career beyond the UK market, just not in the US. His SF/fantasy series Storm was a long running success in several European countries from 1978 onwards, and has continued under other artists since his death. |
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Post by Dizzy D on Apr 2, 2016 14:31:58 GMT -5
Some of Storm has made it to the US (reprinted in Heavy Metal) and a little of his very early work hs been reprinted by Marvel, because he did work on Marvelman/Miracleman (but you wouldn't know it if you didn't read the credits. This was back when Mick Anglo did Marvelman, so it's in the same style as that).
And a lot of his influence is felt indirectly on the american market due to both artists inspired by him and artist directly taught by him.
And I'm still trying to get that Black Hole adaptian which apparently was done by Lawrence and Jack Kirby.(http://www.stripboekenverzamelaar.nl/html/stripboeken/the_%20black_hole_don%20Lawrence.htm)
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Post by tingramretro on Apr 2, 2016 16:40:21 GMT -5
Some of Storm has made it to the US (reprinted in Heavy Metal) and a little of his very early work hs been reprinted by Marvel, because he did work on Marvelman/Miracleman (but you wouldn't know it if you didn't read the credits. This was back when Mick Anglo did Marvelman, so it's in the same style as that). I have some of Lawrence's Marvelman stuff somewhere (Miracleman didn't come into it; I still hate that name and resent Marvel for causing the change). |
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Post by DubipR on Apr 3, 2016 9:35:39 GMT -5
Joe Colquhoun comes to mind...
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Post by tingramretro on Apr 3, 2016 9:48:33 GMT -5
Joe Colquhoun comes to mind... A great artist, one of the best of his era, but I don't think he ever made much of an impact outside the UK, did he? |
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