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Post by Ish Kabbible on Sept 2, 2016 10:33:48 GMT -5
Different character altogether. Scourge killed The Fly, a thug named Rick Deacon given insect powers in Amazing Spider-Man Annual #10 by the brother of the scientist who created The Scorpion. The Human Fly (neither his face nor his true identity were ever revealed in the comic) was Rick Rojatt, a real life Canadian daredevil whose career was devoted to inspiring people with disabilities. Cei-U! I summon the Raid! I'm a f****** idiot... Too late S&S. That position has already been filled
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Post by brutalis on Sept 2, 2016 10:44:27 GMT -5
Too late S&S. That position has already been filled But every village should have at least 2 or 3 in case of illness and death! i have all of this series bought from the racks during high school. Enjoyed it as presented a true everyman being a hero without any powers using wit and skills to achieve heroic victories. Kind of neat having so many varied veteran artists interpret him and really did like the "stuntman" aspect. A collection would be cool and an updated mini-series as well. Anybody know the full story of the real man portraying the Human Fly? Very limited internet information that i could find.
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Post by tingramretro on Sept 4, 2016 9:53:44 GMT -5
There was an iteration that got whacked by scourge in one of the Spider-Man books I believe... Different character altogether. Scourge killed The Fly, a thug named Rick Deacon given insect powers in Amazing Spider-Man Annual #10 by the brother of the scientist who created The Scorpion. The Human Fly (neither his face nor his true identity were ever revealed in the comic) was Rick Rojatt, a real life Canadian daredevil whose career was devoted to inspiring people with disabilities. Cei-U! I summon the Raid! Purely for the sake of completism: Richard Deacon, the Fly, was later one of the several victims of the Scourge who was magically resurrected by the Hood and sent out to kill the Punisher. He's still currently in the land of the living, and was last seen (I believe) in Superior Foes of Spider-Man.
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Post by dbutler69 on Sept 4, 2016 10:53:47 GMT -5
I have to agree with the people who have said something along the lines of "I'm a Bronze Age fan, but this title never appealed to me" even though i do see some issues in the dollar bin. I suppose it's possible that it's better than it looks, and I may give it a chance some day when the list of Bronze Age comics I haven't read has sufficiently shrunk.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2016 12:49:18 GMT -5
I have to agree with the people who have said something along the lines of "I'm a Bronze Age fan, but this title never appealed to me" even though i do see some issues in the dollar bin. I suppose it's possible that it's better than it looks, and I may give it a chance some day when the list of Bronze Age comics I've read has sufficiently shrunk.How do you get the number of books you've read to shrink? Is there some way to unread books? Because if there is, there's a lot of comics I would like to unread! -M
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Post by dbutler69 on Sept 4, 2016 17:18:21 GMT -5
I have to agree with the people who have said something along the lines of "I'm a Bronze Age fan, but this title never appealed to me" even though i do see some issues in the dollar bin. I suppose it's possible that it's better than it looks, and I may give it a chance some day when the list of Bronze Age comics I've read has sufficiently shrunk.How do you get the number of books you've read to shrink? Is there some way to unread books? Because if there is, there's a lot of comics I would like to unread! -M Whoops! That was a typo. I meant to say, "when the list of Bronze Age stories I haven't read has sufficiently shrunk". I' think I'll go edit that now.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2016 17:43:00 GMT -5
How do you get the number of books you've read to shrink? Is there some way to unread books? Because if there is, there's a lot of comics I would like to unread! -M Whoops! That was a typo. I meant to say, "when the list of Bronze Age stories I haven't read has sufficiently shrunk". I' think I'll go edit that now. Durn it, I was hoping there was a way to unread some of the really bad comics I had read over the years -M
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2016 18:58:51 GMT -5
Sorry but I have to ask...was he ever captured by a giant piece of flypaper in the series?
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Post by kellyg on Sept 4, 2016 20:16:20 GMT -5
I didn't know about the evil Fly in the comics but had an issue or two of the other one.
Knew about the Fly brothers from the 60s cartoon show.
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Post by dbutler69 on Sept 5, 2016 13:03:15 GMT -5
Whoops! That was a typo. I meant to say, "when the list of Bronze Age stories I haven't read has sufficiently shrunk". I' think I'll go edit that now. Durn it, I was hoping there was a way to unread some of the really bad comics I had read over the years -M I'll let you know if I think of something. There's a bunch of 90's stuff I'd like to un-read.
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Post by Pól Rua on Sept 6, 2016 0:31:32 GMT -5
The Human Fly is a unique confluence of quirky features which I find irresistible. Firstly, he's one of Marvel's oddball 70's characters. Secondly, he's got a cool costume. And third, he's got that weird superhero-adjacent quality which you find in the hero pulps of the 30's, and Masked Mexican Wrestler films, where a real life luchador will play himself in films where he has a sideline in monster-bashing, crime-pummeling, or swinging international espionage.
Plus, it's Bill Mantlo doing what he does best. Being thrown a real turd of a concept and polishing it until it shines with a diamond-like lustre. I reckon the character still has a tone of potential.
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Post by tingramretro on Sept 6, 2016 0:34:06 GMT -5
Plus, it's Bill Mantlo doing what he does best. Being thrown a real turd of a concept and polishing it until it shines with a diamond-like lustre. Mantlo did that a lot. I wish he got more respect for it.
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Post by Pól Rua on Sept 6, 2016 5:20:06 GMT -5
Seriously. He had an incredible genius for that. Rom, Spaceknight was a great example. An 'action figure' with almost zero articulation, no background, no other characters in his 'universe'. All he had to go on was a name, and the name of three devices, and Mantlo turned it into a ridiculously long-running and popular title. He really did deserve so much more credit.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2016 9:27:59 GMT -5
Seriously. He had an incredible genius for that. Rom, Spaceknight was a great example. An 'action figure' with almost zero articulation, no background, no other characters in his 'universe'. All he had to go on was a name, and the name of three devices, and Mantlo turned it into a ridiculously long-running and popular title. He really did deserve so much more credit. Not to take anything away from Mantlo, but the concept of the Dire Wraiths, their sorcerous background, the fact they are shapechangers who infiltrate other worlds and such were all part of the toy's promo materials given to Marvel, not Mantlo creations. It's why those aspects of Rom can be part of the IDW revival and are not part of Marvel's IP. This commercial predates MArvel getting the Rom license... -M
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Post by Phil Maurice on Sept 6, 2016 17:34:32 GMT -5
Not to take anything away from Mantlo, but the concept of the Dire Wraiths, their sorcerous background, the fact they are shapechangers who infiltrate other worlds and such were all part of the toy's promo materials given to Marvel, not Mantlo creations. Wow! That takes me back. I was lucky to be a kid at exactly that time and remember the ROM toy before it was a licensed Marvel property. Speaking of Mantlo, a recent article in the Atlantic recounts (fairly) accurately Jack Kirby's long struggle over compensation for his ideas and artwork. For context, the author cites Bill Mantlo's grievous injuries sustained in a hit-and-run decades ago and the indifference Marvel has shown to Mantlo's medical needs despite his creations netting them millions of dollars. So I was quite pleased to see that the following was the very first comment after the story (and I hope like hell that it is true): The full article can be found here: Celebrating Kirby
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