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Post by Nowhere Man on Jul 16, 2016 22:24:16 GMT -5
My knowledge of this era of DC is limited, but I was wondering if there was ever a general "jumping on point" for the more prominent books, particularly starting from the DC Explosion/Implosion? It seems like Batman had a very good jumping on point once Wein became writer and Levitz became editor of the line. I realize that the concept wasn't really a thing yet, but if I wanted to do some chronological reading, I wanted to try to pinpoint a good starting point. DC Comics Presents #1 seems like an interesting place to start, but so does New Teen Titans #1. If there was simply a good jumping on point for Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman and the Justice League I think that would suffice.
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Post by hondobrode on Jul 17, 2016 0:01:20 GMT -5
I'm a pretty avid DC guy, and I just can't think of any place to say to jump in pre-Crisis as a jumping on point.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Jul 17, 2016 1:22:27 GMT -5
Pre-Crisis DC was new-reader friendly and easy to jump in just about anywhere. I wouldn't go out of my way to try and figure it out. That's the simple and direct answer.
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Post by Nowhere Man on Jul 17, 2016 2:26:31 GMT -5
Yeah, it's probably wise to just pick one series and start from there. I'm thinking of starting when Shaxper's review thread states Batman continuity "begins" with Batman #307.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Jul 17, 2016 3:38:04 GMT -5
Yeah, it's probably wise to just pick one series and start from there. I'm thinking of starting when Shaxper's review thread states Batman continuity "begins" with Batman #307. Might I ask what format will you be reading them. Back issues, trade books or digital? Purchasing or using the library?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2016 3:49:47 GMT -5
I would start off by reading some team books
Justice League Justice Society All-Star Squadron Teen Titans Doom Patrol
DC Comics Presents Brave and the Bold Batman Action Comics Aquaman Flash Green Lantern Wonder Woman
80 Page Giants 100 Page Giants
For a good start - I would get yourself some copies of the 80 & 100 page Giants and they have a lot of good stories are worth repeating and they will give you some good Pre-Crisis stuff that you might enjoy.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 17, 2016 5:50:36 GMT -5
Back in the day, you didn't need a jumping on point. The stories were being churned out without any " event" style stories to demarcate an ending. That being said, New Teen Titan felt like something that wasn't done in Dc before. It was a copy of the New X-men and was one of the top Dc books in the 80's.
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Post by Cei-U! on Jul 17, 2016 7:53:52 GMT -5
It depends on how far back you want to go. For the full Bronze Age experience, I'd start Superman with Superman #233, Batman with Batman #217, Wonder Woman with #204 of her title, and Justice League with JLA #75 (the first issue after Black Canary moves to Earth-One).
Cei-U! I summon the change in tone!
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Post by Nowhere Man on Jul 17, 2016 7:54:14 GMT -5
Yeah, it's probably wise to just pick one series and start from there. I'm thinking of starting when Shaxper's review thread states Batman continuity "begins" with Batman #307. Might I ask what format will you be reading them. Back issues, trade books or digital? Purchasing or using the library? I have some of the artists collections, like the Jim Aparo, Jose Luis Garcia Lopez, etc, also most of Teen Titans by Wolfman and Perez in trade, but not even close to all of The Big Three and JLA from that period. It would be a very incomplete reading as it stands, but if DC ever gets a Marvel Unlimited service going I might try to do it one day. I have a shelf of Epic and Masterwork collections, about 14 in total, and if it wasn't for Marvel Unlimited I wouldn't be able to review Marvel's Silver Age without breaking the bank.
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Post by shaxper on Jul 17, 2016 8:33:48 GMT -5
You're correct about the Batman Wein run being an idea jumping on point. While Cei-U! is correct that Batman #217 was, itself, a clear new start for the franchise, Batman #307 is another such start that, while not as clear and abrupt a change in direction as #217, begins a dense continuity that continues all the way up to the Crisis itself.
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Post by Crimebuster on Jul 17, 2016 11:51:40 GMT -5
It depends on how far back you want to go. For the full Bronze Age experience, I'd start Superman with Superman #233, Batman with Detective #217, Wonder Woman with #204 of her title, and Justice League with JLA #75 (the first issue after Black Canary moves to Earth-One). I'd argue for Wonder Woman #212 rather than #204. But otherwise, yes. For the Superman books, the entire line changed direction starting with Superman #233, as long time editor Mort Weisinger retired and was replaced by other folks. Lois Lane #105, Jimmy Olsen #133, Adventure Comics #397, Action Comics #393, and World's Finest #198 are the first issues of the new direction. Those are all reasonable jumping on points. It should be noted, though, that Murray Boltinoff pretty much continued Weisinger's style in Action Comics, so there's no clear difference in that title until Julie Schwartz took over with #419. That's probably a better jumping on point for Action. For Supergirl stuff, you would probably be just as well off start with Adventure #381, the first issue of her solo series. And World's Finest switches to a Superman team-up book for awhile, dropping Batman; a better starting point might be after that experiment ended, with the introduction of the Super-Sons in #215.
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Post by dbutler69 on Jul 20, 2016 12:42:32 GMT -5
It depends on how far back you want to go. For the full Bronze Age experience, I'd start Superman with Superman #233, Batman with Detective #217, Wonder Woman with #204 of her title, and Justice League with JLA #75 (the first issue after Black Canary moves to Earth-One). Cei-U! I summon the change in tone! Those are great suggestions, but is Detective #217 a typo? That's from 1955.
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Post by Cei-U! on Jul 20, 2016 13:07:28 GMT -5
It depends on how far back you want to go. For the full Bronze Age experience, I'd start Superman with Superman #233, Batman with Detective #217, Wonder Woman with #204 of her title, and Justice League with JLA #75 (the first issue after Black Canary moves to Earth-One). Cei-U! I summon the change in tone! Those are great suggestions, but is Detective #217 a typo? That's from 1955. Not a typo, exactly. More like a brain fart. It should say Batman #217. Cei-U! I summon the snafu!
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Post by DE Sinclair on Jul 20, 2016 16:38:13 GMT -5
Back in the day, you didn't need a jumping on point. The stories were being churned out without any " event" style stories to demarcate an ending. That being said, New Teen Titan felt like something that wasn't done in Dc before. It was a copy of the New X-men and was one of the top Dc books in the 80's. Agreed. The New Teen Titans was some of (if not the) best stuff DC was putting out at the time.
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Post by dbutler69 on Jul 21, 2016 8:18:27 GMT -5
Those are great suggestions, but is Detective #217 a typo? That's from 1955. Not a typo, exactly. More like a brain fart. It should say Batman #217. Cei-U! I summon the snafu! Ah, got it.
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