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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2016 13:53:49 GMT -5
I was only collecting new comics between 1988 and 1994, and yet, within six years, prices jumped from 75 cents to 1.50 an issue. And now they're what--$5 an issue? They aren't quite that bad... they started going up to $3.99 around new 52... DC briefly advertised 'holding the line at 2.99' then gave in. Just about all new Marvel and DC comics are $3.99 now (Marvel has a few that are 2.99 still, not sure about DC). DC Rebirth titles are all $2.99. All of Marvel's titles are $3.99.
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Post by Red Oak Kid on Jul 24, 2016 13:55:29 GMT -5
Another way that Marvel came up with to cut production costs in the mid to late 70s was to pay artists for one page even tho it printed as two. The artists were instructed to take their drawing paper and to rotate it 90 degrees and draw two pages of art on this single piece of paper. They had to do this once per issue. This may have been during the Shooter years.
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Post by tingramretro on Jul 24, 2016 14:18:14 GMT -5
I've collected comics from when they were 20 cents and until they reached 1.95, I never struggled to keep up with the hobby. The price now has almost killed the hobby for me. That's life. Production and especially distribution costs keep rising. They have to make a profit.
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Post by tingramretro on Jul 24, 2016 14:20:40 GMT -5
Some comics are $5 an issue. DC seems to be less greedy when it comes to price point. I just don't see Marvel releasing a big event comic with 80 pages of content for $2.99. Not unless they want to lose money on every unit sold. I don't see that as greedy. I used to work in publishing. They're not getting rich off of comics.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 24, 2016 14:31:23 GMT -5
I've collected comics from when they were 20 cents and until they reached 1.95, I never struggled to keep up with the hobby. The price now has almost killed the hobby for me. That's life. Production and especially distribution costs keep rising. They have to make a profit. Of course. But they will only last as long as there is a demand for their 4 dollar comic books. Which seems to be dwindling.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Jul 24, 2016 14:56:41 GMT -5
The monthly pamphlet comic book format is the worst value for your entertainment dollar. $4 for something that takes about 15 minutes to read. And we're not talking about gems of entertainment quality either.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 24, 2016 15:49:46 GMT -5
I didn't realize DC was switching back to $2.99.. that's exciting!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2016 16:47:31 GMT -5
Some comics are $5 an issue. DC seems to be less greedy when it comes to price point. I just don't see Marvel releasing a big event comic with 80 pages of content for $2.99. Marvel also doesn't double the price when they go to second printings when they under produce books that sell higher than expectations the way that DC does. Marvel offers the free digital codes for the extra buck, which may not appeal to some, but has added value in the mass market entertainment medium, and Marvel is not doubleshipping all of their best sellers so it's $6 a month not $3 to follow a book, altering creative teams regularly after solicitations so you aren't getting what was actually advertised if you chose to add a book to a pull list, and using big names like Jim Lee to pull people to a book where he is only doing 12 pages and then other artists are doing back ups for the rest (with other books likely to follow the model to keep the doubleshipping schedule so you'll only get 24 pages of the lead stuff for your $6). Marvel's methods and pricing may be "deplorable" to some, but DC's practices are just as shady and greed driven. Marvel is just better at it hence they have dominated dollar market share for a long while, which is why DC has gone into overdrive to catch up so they can try to be the bigger fish in the small pond of the direct market. -M BTW that $3 event book DC Rebirth was held back by a lot of dealers when 2nd prints were announced and was selling for an average of $12 a pop at the show I was at today, so unless you actually had it on a pull, it's likely the customers didn't pay $3 for it. It was selling for $6 a pop at Wizard World the week after it was released and has doubled again since then-speaking of greed.
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Post by Action Ace on Jul 24, 2016 17:10:02 GMT -5
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Post by Nowhere Man on Jul 25, 2016 0:19:52 GMT -5
To be fair, I don't buy individual issues anymore and whatever digital price I see (or the preview/review price) is what I go by. I also didn't factor in double-shipping.
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Post by dbutler69 on Jul 25, 2016 8:43:13 GMT -5
I remember the page count being 17 pages, somewhere around the mid 70's, I think it may have been during the 25 cent era. Page counts dropped from 20 to 18 to 17 during the 25 cent era & stayed there (30,35,40 cents) until prices jumped to 50 cents when they went back up to 25 pages. I didn't realize that the 17 page era lasted that long.
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Post by masterofquackfu on Jul 25, 2016 9:12:36 GMT -5
For me, I haven't bought a comic book off the stands since 2005...a few DC titles because I was so underwhelmed by the offerings of Marvel. I think at that time they were close to $3. Since then, I have not purchased any "contemporary" titles. I simply can't justify spending $3-5 for one comic book that can be read so quickly. I also hate the anime type look that seems to be popular and it seems that the art dominates and the story is secondary. Scant dialogue but booming pages of art don't do it for me. Just not my thing. I like balance...good art and a good(or fairly good) story. I also don't like the fact that Marvel constantly seems to kill off titles at the drop of a hat and then, whenever something is popular, they lock onto it like a lamprey and try to extract as much money from it as possible. Marvel has just gotten too arrogant. They don't make any money from me any longer because I just buy back issues from independent dealers and I don't watch their movies unless I can get them online for free or a pirated dvd. For me, I will remember the old Marvel and continue to buy the cheapie, beat up older Fair condition books that people don't give a damn about. The new stuff..well, it can burn.
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Post by MDG on Jul 25, 2016 12:40:32 GMT -5
Another way that Marvel came up with to cut production costs in the mid to late 70s was to pay artists for one page even tho it printed as two. The artists were instructed to take their drawing paper and to rotate it 90 degrees and draw two pages of art on this single piece of paper. They had to do this once per issue. This may have been during the Shooter years. If I recall, this didn't last long (maybe only a couple months) before artists rebelled--after all, it was a pretty blatant attempt to screw the artists. Another driver of price increases was having a price point that made it worthwhile for retailers to carry comics.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2016 22:12:57 GMT -5
Publishers were in a panic over what was happening business-wise and tried every format they could think of to retain sales or newsstand presence. Higher price point formats like magazines,100 page specials and tabloid size to appease newsstand operators, digest size for supermarket check out positions It is interesting to me that DC experimented with the 100 pagers & Dollar Comics & Marvel tried magazines. However they both released the treasury sized books....which I really liked. I know DC did digests, did Marvel do any digests?
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 25, 2016 22:25:59 GMT -5
Publishers were in a panic over what was happening business-wise and tried every format they could think of to retain sales or newsstand presence. Higher price point formats like magazines,100 page specials and tabloid size to appease newsstand operators, digest size for supermarket check out positions It is interesting to me that DC experimented with the 100 pagers & Dollar Comics & Marvel tried magazines. However they both released the treasury sized books....which I really liked. I know DC did digests, did Marvel do any digests? Not at that time. They did a few reprint books in a smaller digest size in the very early 2000s. I think they were all of their books that were aimed at early teens.
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