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Post by ironchimp on Jul 24, 2016 17:21:28 GMT -5
OK, my friend is a librarian in San Diego and has a nice grant to get a proper comics library up and running
so far she's ordered a good 400 books of what we'd might say is the canon - the classic stuff (+ whats already in the library system). She's got bucks to spend tho so I thought i'd give it a shout out as for all US people on here - it's your library
what quality gear that might be a little out of left field, underappreciated, or things she might not know or has missed would you like to see in it?
obviously i cant put up a list of everything she has bought as its huge so you will have to take an educated punt. Only criteria is nothing too frisky / controversial / drugs etc as its just starting and I'm guessing if little Johnny got hold of Freak Brothers or something then there might be problems that will put project in jeopardy at an early stage of its life. As it develops tho - rest assured... the aim is to have the whole spectrum - but pragmatism rules at early stages.
so cool collected volumes or OGNs - nothing to frisky - and no superhero stuff as they seem well stocked on that. Obviously its a library so any quality work from all sectors of community (race / gender / age etc) and to appeal to different people would be most welcome
as an example - i suggested Corto Maltese, Tales of Beanworld, Jim Woodring, Dave Mckean, Don Lawrence, Charlie's War.
But what would you suggest? Or what do you kids like? What books have you insisted your other half read?
You know the score.. hit the thread up and help stock the library
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Post by ironchimp on Jul 26, 2016 12:41:35 GMT -5
well thanks for reading. they are pretty confident they can make the world's biggest dedicated graphic novel in time and i know they'd appreciate hearing from the real comics heads so hit them up when they have the shelves up with suggestions
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 26, 2016 15:25:36 GMT -5
Depending on if you want all ages or not... *'s indicate not for little kids... quickly, off the top of my head:
Any Marvel Masterworks or DC archives Marvel Epics (especially those that don't overlap the Masterworks) Fables* Preacher* Walking Dead* Transmetropolitan* Watchmen* V for Vendetta* Saga* Bone Cleopatra in Space Usagi Saga volumes Giants, Beware (and Dragons, Beware) Maus Persepolis Barefoot Gen March Five Ghosts* Lazarus* Any recent Marvel and DC the readers want
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Post by MDG on Jul 27, 2016 7:46:51 GMT -5
I'd add Eisner in there, as well as Love & Rockets. If I was running the place, I'd make a point of including Kim Deitch, Spain, and Kurtzman's Jungle Book.
If available in lower-priced editions, John Stanley's Little Lulu and Barks' Ducks for younger readers. Some Archie collections as well.
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Post by Prince Hal on Jul 27, 2016 8:55:36 GMT -5
All good suggestions so far, but I'd also suggest long runs of great strips. Maybe not technically "graphic novels," but if the librray does not have, say, a few collected editions of Prince Valiant, Gasoline Alley, Pogo, Calvin and Hobbes, Peanuts, Dick Tracy, and so on(not the entire runs, but representative volumes) this might be a way to squeeze them in.
Also: Little Archie Any Joe Kubert works: Yossel, Fax From Sarajevo, e.g.
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Post by Batflunkie on Jul 30, 2016 13:12:27 GMT -5
Buseik and Ross' Marvels Any Kirby books from DC or Marvel Maybe some collected albums of various comic strips like Dilbert and Far Side?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2016 14:17:42 GMT -5
I'd also suggest a few GNs about reading GN's to help people unfamiliar with the medium-McCloud's Understnading Comics and Eisner's Graphic Storytelling come to mind as absolute necessities for any GN collection.
I'd also suggest the collection have a diversity of era and creators. Make sure the collection doesn't degenerate into all capes or a collection of stuff by "dead (or even still living) white guys"
I know you said no super-hero stuff, but of the super-hero stuff they had I would make sure they had the Golden Age Batman and Superman Omnibus to make sure the origins of the super-hero genre were covered, as well as something with the early Marvel/Marvel Mystery comics.
Some of the collected EC Editions to show where comics went in the post-War era. Weird Science, Tales from the Crypt, Mad, one of the crime and war book collections so all genres are represented and sampled.
As Hal pointed out-some of the classic strip collections-Popeye, Pogo, Terry and the Pirates, Flash Gordon, Prince Valiant, Peanuts, etc.
A few key Silver Age collections as well to represent the era.
European Comics as well-Asterix, Tintin, Corto Maltese, among many others. Collections of key or influential manga or those of historical importance also, maybe Astro Boy, Lone Wolf and Cub, Barefoot Gen, Akira, some others.
Some sampling of undergrounds without going to crazy at first-maybe Golnick's History of the Universe, Crumb's Book of Genesis that at least touch on material people are familiar with to give them a taste of how the underground's approach things. Definitely need to get some Harvey Pekar in there as well before moving into the more out there or modern stuff.
Pivotal stuff that changed the perception of comics in the mass media-Maus, Fax from Sarajevo, Safe Area Gorazde, Persepolis, etc.
Stuff that takes new cultural looks at western canon-(perhaps the manga Shakespeare adaptations, Age of Bronze by Shanower, Beowulf by Gareth Hinds), or mass culture/pop culture phenomenon (The DC Big Book of Stuff, Image's Fractured Fairy Tales, etc.) stuff that explores folklore both familiar (Fables, etc.) and unfamiliar (Trickster Tales from Image, etc.)
Then some all ages stuff like Bone, Clan Aspis, Sandwalk Adventures, Archie collections, touching on super-heroes too like the Batman Adventures collections, etc.
Some biographies and historical pieces-March Vol. 1 and 2, stuff like Dignifying Science and the other science spotlight titles, Ho Che Anderson's trilogy about Martin Luther King Jr., 21 (the Robert Clemente story from Fantagaphics), the Saint and Boxers and American Born Chinese from Yang.
Then some random thoughts stuff like Trina Robbins from Girls to Grrlz exploring women in comics, and the Chicagoland Detective Agency all ages stuff she does now, to Hicksville by Dylan Horrocks exploring the idea of comics and what they mean to us. Modern stuff like McCloud's The Sculptor and some of the other stuff from First Second Publishing (from Paul Pope's Battling Boy to their Olympian gods collection to the Deliah Dirk adventures to Genius by Seagle and Kristiansen to Yang's Shadow Hero to Templar) to show what diversity and range comics can achieve beyond the big 2 niche of capes and cowls that most comic fans will never be bothered to check out.
Spotlight a few more female creators-Collen Doran's A Distant Soil, Linda Medley's Castle Waiting, and Carla Speed McNeil's Finder come to mind. Lumberjanes comes to mind as well though I have not sampled it yet.
Music & pop culture stuff like Hip Hop Family Tree, the Fifth Beatle, etc. that has a wider appeal than typical comics do is a must as well. Hit on some other pop culture milestones like Star Wars, Star Trek, Adventure Time, Walking Dead etc. that might appeal to fans of that and expose them to more stuff they can sample and try (without having to pay for it like they would in a comic shop-that's one of the beauties of a library system).
Make sure there are plenty of how-to books too, not just the McCloud and Eisner books on how to read that I mentioned previously, but things like How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way, some of the First Second Books like Mastering Words and Pictures, etc. so people who dig comics and might want to try their hand creating their own can find inspiration in some of the books.
Many libraries now lend digitally as well, and many publishers offer inexpensive digital copies that libraries can circulate as well, so I would suggest they look into that as a way to expand their collection without the cost of physical products to supplement (not replace) the physical collection they are building.
Point them towards places like the Cartoon Library housed at Ohio State University and other places that have curated these types of collections so they can get specific advice form librarians and administrators about how to go about building such a collection, and what pitfalls to expect and how to avoid them. etc.
-M
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Post by Prince Hal on Jul 30, 2016 16:05:51 GMT -5
Anyone suggested Larry Gonick's Cartoon History of the Universe, Volumes 1-7?
It would fit inot several categories: graphic novel, non-fiction, history, etc.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2016 16:20:21 GMT -5
Anyone suggested Larry Gonick's Cartoon History of the Universe, Volumes 1-7? It would fit inot several categories: graphic novel, non-fiction, history, etc. I mentionedt hem in my previous ramble...um I mean post. -M
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Post by Prince Hal on Jul 30, 2016 17:19:48 GMT -5
Anyone suggested Larry Gonick's Cartoon History of the Universe, Volumes 1-7? It would fit inot several categories: graphic novel, non-fiction, history, etc. I mentionedt hem in my previous ramble...um I mean post. -M Saw it afterwards. I second your nomination!
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Jul 30, 2016 18:05:30 GMT -5
The Mid-Manhattan (5th Ave, and 40th St) public library has a complete separate room just for graphic novels and it contains a large amount of whats been already mentioned. it also has a huge amount of manga, Asterix and other euro collections. I'd also add to the list, which this library has, the hard cover collected editions of the Warren magazine classics Creepy, Eerie and Vampirella published by Dark Horse and Dynamite, the huge Goon library editions, the Cerebus and Usagi collections, Ed Brubaker's various collections published by Image, the Groo collections, Rasl, Scott McCloud's Understanding Comics, Acme Comics Library by Chris Ware...I'm leaving much out but there must be a way to look up their inventory on line
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2016 20:18:18 GMT -5
IDW & Dark Horse have done a lot of nice collections. I would add Archie collections over the last 70 years since they reflect different eras in America since the 40's. Tarzan by Kubert. Also stuff that adapted TV or movies (like mrp mentioned). I also think some collections of comic strips would show the changes in American culture over the last 100 years.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 30, 2016 22:00:44 GMT -5
Did anyone mention the Barks and Rosa Duck volumes that Fantagraphics is putting out?
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Post by ironchimp on Jul 31, 2016 10:31:42 GMT -5
superstars - people at lajolla library are very appreciative of the input. I think they might be a bit shy to come say hi...
love and rockets, spiegelman, joe sacco, eisner, moore etc "the heavy hitters" are all in there along with a lot of authors / writers you'd automatically assume but i'd also imagine there might be some missing that you'd automatically assume would be there so these suggestions are very cool in helping fix that. It's just a pilot to create a dedicated comics lending library for readers at present, as I understand it, but there are bigger plans as they seem pretty confident the pilot will be a success and then they can expanding it with history, community projects, and a far more comprehensive collection. (hence heads up for any potential community projects etc people might want to lead or suggest. Lot of historians, small press publishers, and artists on here)
I was pretty stuck for ideas for afro american comics beyond matt baker, christopher priest, and dwayne mcduffy tho
so once again, people at the library are very appreciative of all the suggestions - it's important to have as many ideas as possible to help shape their pilot so when the doors open they have something for as many people as possible .
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Post by Rob Allen on Aug 4, 2016 15:11:08 GMT -5
I was pretty stuck for ideas for afro american comics beyond matt baker, christopher priest, and dwayne mcduffy tho A few good options have been mentioned; I'll add Stagger Lee by Derek McCulloch and Shepherd Hendrix.
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