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Post by Bronze Age Brian on Aug 3, 2016 21:52:38 GMT -5
I knew Harley Quinn was a hot ticket, but whoa these numbers are impressive to say the least. For a comparison, Civil War 2 #1 sold 425,000. Also, 70 variants have been made for this book.
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Post by hondobrode on Aug 3, 2016 22:03:09 GMT -5
70 variants !
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2016 8:39:51 GMT -5
To buy all 70 variants - you need $209.30 plus sales tax to buy them all. I wonder if any fool out there brought all 70 variants! ... It's unheard of.
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Post by hondobrode on Aug 4, 2016 10:22:02 GMT -5
Years ago Gen13 had like 15 variants or so back in the 90's and that was pretty over the top
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Post by Bronze Age Brian on Aug 4, 2016 11:24:20 GMT -5
To buy all 70 variants - you need $209.30 plus sales tax to buy them all. I wonder if any fool out there brought all 70 variants! ... It's unheard of. It's going to cost much more than that. A lot of these are dealer exclusives that will never hit the rack. I don't see a way someone can snag all of them at cover price. A lot of them have already shot up to over $20 on eBay, like this Stanley Artgerm variant for instance: A few others are well up over the $50 range. Yeah, whoever decides to get all 70 is going to have to fork over some serious cash. More of the variant covers can be seen here.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2016 19:14:24 GMT -5
Just keep in mind that retailer exclusive variants require a minimum order for a store to get (usually 5-10 K copies depending on the book). Several retailers got store exclusives on this so that is going to inflate the numbers like a Loot Crate Bump (even 10 store variants would account for almost a quarter of those sales). I also think that DC's Legion of Collector's Box is doping/did a variant on this so no Loot Crate, but the same effect. Marvel and DC don't do Loot Crate anymore since they started their own collector box programs w/Funko (Legion of Collector's & Marvel Collector's Corps; plus Smuggler's Bounty for just Star Wars stuff from Funko/Disney/Marvel).
It's an impressive number,except when you remember Jimmy Olsen got cancelled selling about half that regularly on every issue for a year, not on a first issue sales number propped up by variants, collector's boxes, and movie hoopla. The real question is how many of those 400K copies will wind up in the hands of end customers and readers and not still be sitting in store's stock a year from now? Sadly, smaller stores who try to reorder won't be able to even though unsold copies will abound because Diamond/DC don't overprint orders, so there will likely be a 2nd or 3rd printings to meet those reorders rather than actually selling unsold 1st printing copies languishing in shop shelves that overordered to meet variant minimums.
-M
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Post by shishard on Aug 5, 2016 10:07:49 GMT -5
I got one sitting in my DCBS pile....I only got it as it was part of a bundle deal to get them for half price. I figured the whole Harley thing would be done by now but again I thought they would have killed the Deadpool skit too and made him a serious hero as well..
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Post by BigPapaJoe on Aug 5, 2016 11:20:21 GMT -5
Why is Harley Quinn so popular as a character? I'm curious as I'm only really familiar with her from the Batman animated series as a few comic appearances here and there. Also some of the Arkham games. I never found her overly interesting though. She just seems to be a groupie for the Joker and that's it. What am I missing that is so special?
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Post by thwhtguardian on Aug 5, 2016 11:24:28 GMT -5
Why is Harley Quinn so popular as a character? I'm curious as I'm only really familiar with her from the Batman animated series as a few comic appearances here and there. Also some of the Arkham games. I never found her overly interesting though. She just seems to be a groupie for the Joker and that's it. What am I missing that is so special? I couldn't tell you. but then again I don't get the obsession with Deadpool either.
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Post by Bronze Age Brian on Aug 5, 2016 11:44:46 GMT -5
Why is Harley Quinn so popular as a character? I'm curious as I'm only really familiar with her from the Batman animated series as a few comic appearances here and there. Also some of the Arkham games. I never found her overly interesting though. She just seems to be a groupie for the Joker and that's it. What am I missing that is so special? Blame the millennials! I kid, but the truth is the younger generation grew up with Harley Quinn (and Deadpool) and that's why they seem to have stuck around. Harley Quinn was a big hit in the Batman Animated cartoon that aired in the 90's, so there is a nostalgia factor there for the kids that watched that show. There's also a humor element to these characters that somehow appeals to the current audience. I firmly believe that there is a generational appeal here.
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Post by BigPapaJoe on Aug 5, 2016 12:34:29 GMT -5
Why is Harley Quinn so popular as a character? I'm curious as I'm only really familiar with her from the Batman animated series as a few comic appearances here and there. Also some of the Arkham games. I never found her overly interesting though. She just seems to be a groupie for the Joker and that's it. What am I missing that is so special? I couldn't tell you. but then again I don't get the obsession with Deadpool either. Same. I don't get the Deadpool appeal. I guess I'm just not a fan of characters breaking the 4th wall for shock value.
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Post by BigPapaJoe on Aug 5, 2016 12:36:19 GMT -5
Why is Harley Quinn so popular as a character? I'm curious as I'm only really familiar with her from the Batman animated series as a few comic appearances here and there. Also some of the Arkham games. I never found her overly interesting though. She just seems to be a groupie for the Joker and that's it. What am I missing that is so special? Blame the millennials! I kid, but the truth is the younger generation grew up with Harley Quinn (and Deadpool) and that's why they seem to have stuck around. Harley Quinn was a big hit in the Batman Animated cartoon that aired in the 90's, so there is a nostalgia factor there for the kids that watched that show. There's also a humor element to these characters that somehow appeals to the current audience. I firmly believe that there is a generational appeal here. That's true. It's funny to me a little bit because I'm 28 and grew up with that cartoon too. Still though Quinn never did anything for me as a character. Maybe I'll check out her comic and see if it's any good.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Aug 5, 2016 14:40:53 GMT -5
Why is Harley Quinn so popular as a character? I'm curious as I'm only really familiar with her from the Batman animated series as a few comic appearances here and there. Also some of the Arkham games. I never found her overly interesting though. She just seems to be a groupie for the Joker and that's it. What am I missing that is so special? Blame the millennials! I kid, but the truth is the younger generation grew up with Harley Quinn (and Deadpool) and that's why they seem to have stuck around. Harley Quinn was a big hit in the Batman Animated cartoon that aired in the 90's, so there is a nostalgia factor there for the kids that watched that show. There's also a humor element to these characters that somehow appeals to the current audience. I firmly believe that there is a generational appeal here. That is my generation and I still don't get it. I never got Deadpool but I liked Harley well enough on the cartoon but don't see why she's suddenly became so huge but if people are enjoying more's the better.
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Post by Nowhere Man on Aug 16, 2016 18:50:28 GMT -5
I'm a big fan of Harley, but much like Thanos and Jim Starlin, I think she's at her best when written by her creator, Paul Dini. BTAS was the definitive Harley, always will be, Mad Love being the best of the best with the the first two Arkham games being the icing on the cake.
I think she's popular because she's crazy and dangerous, much like the Joker, but far more "relatable" and likable to the fanbase. Also, she's a rarity being that she's a funny female character who's also attractive.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2016 19:09:29 GMT -5
Now, let's look at what sales are on say issue #6 or 7, compare those to sales of #1 we saw here, and have everyone ask again why do comic publishers constantly reboot with new #1 issues...?
-M
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