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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jul 30, 2017 20:16:49 GMT -5
\ From the indie world: Jessica Abel and Sarah Dyer. I loved Dyer's Action Girl comic, plus her collaborations with Evan Dorkin. That was such a fun series - I think the first comic run I ever completed via tracking down back issues. All female creators, and never too dark. Recently, Emil Ferris' My Favorite Thing is Monsters is my favorite literary-type comic I've read this year. |
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Post by LovesGilKane on Jul 31, 2017 2:32:15 GMT -5
it's wonderful to see the love for Trina here.  every moment spent with her was a joy, wish there had been more. |
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Post by LovesGilKane on Jul 31, 2017 4:02:28 GMT -5
I have to stress Barb Kaalberg here. She has simply been one of the most talented, considerate, profrssional, deadline-adhering-to inkers in comics, without needing to 'qualify' her career and talent with 'gender'.
She can 'go Quesada', she can 'go Alex Toth'.
what she CAN'T do is get dumb-arses to hire her professionally full time to bump up sales.
then again, as Marvel DC seem to prefer to hire ppl from virtue-signalling on twitter vs ABILITY, this is sadly unsurprising.
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Post by LovesGilKane on Jul 31, 2017 6:19:30 GMT -5
among my best experiences in freelancing was my interaction (almost always by phone) with the Female Assistant Editor on my first 'real book' for the 'big 2'. i don't feel comfy 'naming' her. but most under-35-years-of-age 'editors' will never be her equal. and i'm sure she was never paid enough.  |
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Post by Jesse on Jul 31, 2017 12:49:24 GMT -5
Recently read some Golden Age comics featured the heroines Miss America and the Blonde Phantom and was impressed by them. In the story "Flaming Hate" by Otto Binder and Charles Nicholas from Marvel Mystery Comics #53 Miss America investigates a serial killer that is murdering firemen at the scenes of burning buildings. I really like her powers and fun costume. In "Benefit Show For Horror" by Stan Lee and Syd Shores from Marvel Mystery Comics # 89 the Blonde Phantom is the guest speaker at a benefit where gangsters force a little girl to speak out against her. She investigates and rescues the girl's kidnapped brother. I felt she is one of the more interesting characters without powers.
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Post by shaxper on Jul 31, 2017 17:45:39 GMT -5
One of my favorite Woman in Comics has always been Gail Simone who did Wonder Woman, Batgirl, Birds of Prey, and Secret Six and currently working with Dynamite Comics recently doing a major relaunch of Red Sonja, Vampirella, and Dejah Thoris for 2016 that includes new costumes and working with artist Nicola Scott in that project overseeing it altogether. Looking forward in reading it someday. The only problem I have with Red Sonja is that she is still construed as a sex symbol. She is strong and powerful. She is smart and beautiful. But for a character with a history and backstory like hers you would think she would dress more...properly. I'm not necessarily talking modestly...but as a proper WARRIOR would. With armour that would actually protect her. She is drawn to still be a sex symbol. That gets discussed quite a bit here. Really fascinating in-depth discussion. |
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Post by LovesGilKane on Aug 1, 2017 7:53:52 GMT -5
wendy pini began as a 'voted yummiest red sonja cosplayer', btw. and was featured on national tv.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2017 10:15:31 GMT -5
Recently read some Golden Age comics featured the heroines Miss America and the Blonde Phantom and was impressed by them. In the story "Flaming Hate" by Otto Binder and Charles Nicholas from Marvel Mystery Comics #53 Miss America investigates a serial killer that is murdering firemen at the scenes of burning buildings. I really like her powers and fun costume. In "Benefit Show For Horror" by Stan Lee and Syd Shores from Marvel Mystery Comics # 89 the Blonde Phantom is the guest speaker at a benefit where gangsters force a little girl to speak out against her. She investigates and rescues the girl's kidnapped brother. I felt she is one of the more interesting characters without powers. Thanks for sharing that and I appreciate your interest in the Blonde Phantom and this story about her kidnapped brother is one of the best stories that I read. Blonde Phantom is a gorgeous blonde that uses her head wisely and one thing about her is her resourcefulness in combating crime in a sleek and glamorous gown in red that captures my fancy. Marvel Mystery Comics #89 is my favorite comic book in the Golden Age of Comics and I have a copy of it.  |
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Post by LovesGilKane on Aug 2, 2017 0:16:16 GMT -5
One of my favorite Woman in Comics has always been Gail Simone who did Wonder Woman, Batgirl, Birds of Prey, and Secret Six and currently working with Dynamite Comics recently doing a major relaunch of Red Sonja, Vampirella, and Dejah Thoris for 2016 that includes new costumes and working with artist Nicola Scott in that project overseeing it altogether. Looking forward in reading it someday. The only problem I have with Red Sonja is that she is still construed as a sex symbol. She is strong and powerful. She is smart and beautiful. But for a character with a history and backstory like hers you would think she would dress more...properly. I'm not necessarily talking modestly...but as a proper WARRIOR would. With armour that would actually protect her. She is drawn to still be a sex symbol. as Boudicca would, and other Pre-christian female war-chieftans, yes. |
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Post by Outrajs on Aug 2, 2017 7:21:38 GMT -5
The only problem I have with Red Sonja is that she is still construed as a sex symbol. She is strong and powerful. She is smart and beautiful. But for a character with a history and backstory like hers you would think she would dress more...properly. I'm not necessarily talking modestly...but as a proper WARRIOR would. With armour that would actually protect her. She is drawn to still be a sex symbol. as Boudicca would, and other Pre-christian female war-chieftans, yes. Pre-Christian...AND post-Christian. Joan of Arc wore full plate. But yes. A real warrior woman doesn't wear "bikini armour". |
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Post by Confessor on Aug 2, 2017 10:40:14 GMT -5
as Boudicca would, and other Pre-christian female war-chieftans, yes. Pre-Christian...AND post-Christian. Joan of Arc wore full plate. But yes. A real warrior woman doesn't wear "bikini armour". Pssst...Red Sonja isn't real.   In all seriousness though, I totally agree with your point. As aesthetically pleasing as a chain mail bikini might be to nerdy, hormone-riddled teenage boys, it is totally impractical. But then, you get a lot of that kind of thing when it comes to armour in fantasy books, films or comics -- and not just with the females! In my late teens, my best friend got into doing historical, late medieval re-enactment and became something of an expert on the history and practical use or armour. He really opened my eyes to just how unrealistic and stupid fantasy armour is, for both sexes. I mean, the number of times you see pictures of male warriors with fantastically ornate battle helmets, when, in reality, apart from weighing an absolute ton, ornate helmets with horns, wings, dragons and other decorations would be, at best, impractical on the battlefield and, at worst, downright dangerous to the wearer. Such helmets provide way too much opportunity for swords and other weapons to become stuck on or in the helmet during battle, when in reality, a good helmet should be streamlined or rounded, in order to make sword and other weapon hits slide off, to protect the wearer. |
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Post by Outrajs on Aug 3, 2017 7:02:25 GMT -5
Pre-Christian...AND post-Christian. Joan of Arc wore full plate. But yes. A real warrior woman doesn't wear "bikini armour". Pssst...Red Sonja isn't real. In all seriousness though, I totally agree with your point. As aesthetically pleasing as a chain mail bikini might be to nerdy, hormone-riddled teenage boys, it is totally impractical. But then, you get a lot of that kind of thing when it comes to armour in fantasy books, films or comics -- and not just with the females! In my late teens, my best friend got into doing historical, late medieval re-enactment and became something of an expert on the history and practical use or armour. He really opened my eyes to just how unrealistic and stupid fantasy armour is, for both sexes. I mean, the number of times you see pictures of male warriors with fantastically ornate battle helmets, when, in reality, apart from weighing an absolute ton, ornate helmets with horns, wings, dragons and other decorations would be, at best, impractical on the battlefield and, at worst, downright dangerous to the wearer. Such helmets provide way too much opportunity for swords and other weapons to become stuck on or in the helmet during battle, when in reality, a good helmet should be streamlined or rounded, in order to make sword and other weapon hits slide off, to protect the wearer. Yes. I will know she is not real. I wish she was though. That would be cool. But like I have said previously, I prefer a little realism in my fantasy. It helps me create a stronger suspension of disbelief. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2017 9:27:42 GMT -5
Even our current impressions/ideas about Boudicca,who was a real historical figure are mostly a fictionalized/inaccurate as all we have is accounts of her written about her by her opponents and not her peers, so the accounts have been exaggerated/propagandized to make the impression they wanted of her rather than an accurate reflection of who she was, how she dressed, how she conducted herself, etc. The impression of her in the Roman accounts attempt to paint a picture of an idealized/demonized enemyof Rome rather than who she really was and is just as unreal as the depictions of Red Sonja, who was not a historical figure.
The accounts of Boudicca tells us more about the Romans who faced her and wrote about her than who she was as a person, and the depictions of Red Sonja tell us more about the creators than the character.
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Post by berkley on Aug 4, 2017 1:17:24 GMT -5
IIRC, the ancient Celts would sometimes fight naked or semi-naked in battle and presumably so it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to say this could have been the case with female warriors as well, real or imagined. OTOH, that was a different kind of warfare to what usually takes place in REH's Hyborian World.
It's a really interesting side-issue, actually: if you read the Roman histories, it's pretty clear that the when the first encountered the Gauls, the latter were fighting a kind of warfare that was more akin to what we read in legends or semi-historical accounts from what's sometimes called the Heroic Age, a stage that every culture seems to pass through at one time or another - the Homeric poems would be one of the most famous examples. Warfare tends to take place on a small scale and often arises from things like cattle-raids. It's also pretty unorganised and is centred around the individual prowess of a small number of exceptionally strong and skilled warriors - the heroes.
Obviously this relatively primitive form of fighting stood no chance against the highly organised and scarily efficient Roman war machine, so the Celts, with a few exceptions, never were able to mount a serious opposition to Roman domination.
But anyway, for purposes of fantasy and aesthetic pleasure, I don't have too much of a problem with Red Sonja's metal bikini, though it depends on the execution as always. Conan usually went around wearing little more than a loin-cloth and sandals or whatever, so it's much the same idea, it seems to me.
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Post by LovesGilKane on Aug 4, 2017 2:51:13 GMT -5
red sonja wasn't real, though based - according to knowledge of the time - upon Denisovan-descendents. the body types of Denisovans, their location compared to RS's and prominent red hair rather bore this out.
as for Boudicca, she was much more 'real' than a mere fictional character and not limited to 'roman reminisces ' unless we want to poo-poo recent british tv documentaries about her.
and as a ex-comics freelancer, looking at Marvel, there is no PARTISAN gender politics 'battle' to be had here. An 'accurate' Red Sonja written/illustrated by guys like Gaiman and McKean (if the latter is willing to PAINT again) will sell as well as a neo-tribute to Frank Thorne's version. don't divide, don't don't double down: split the tens, ala blackjack/21, and win TWICE.
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