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Post by brutalis on Oct 3, 2016 12:06:47 GMT -5
Week One-Ulysses Bloodstone, Monster Hunter I first encountered Bloodstone as a back up feature in the pages of The Rampaging Hulk, and later tracked down his appearances in Marvel Presents and delighted to the the Monster Hunters feature in the pages of Marvel Universe (plus his role informing the Bloodstone Hunt storyline in Captain America). The concept of a man made immortal because of a gem lodged in his chest while fighting a Lovecratian horror in prehistoric times now a professional monster hunter was just mind candy for this kid. While a somewhat minor character, his presence has infused the Marvel story through the Bloodstone Gem and through his descendants, creating a deeper mythology that appeals to me, yet at the same time I am disappointed there isn't more stories of Ulysses himself and not those legacy aspects. -M Bloodstone needs a TPB collecting all of his issues from Rampaging Hulk. I too wish Marvel had done more with the character and think a monster hunting Doc Savage style comic book would be awesome! His daughter is running around the current MU, no reason that she couldn't find daddy Bloodstone trapped in some horrific eternal fight trapped between dimensions and she free's him to continue the good fight... |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Oct 3, 2016 12:35:39 GMT -5
Abel (and Cain).  Maybe it's a cheat. If so, I'll say Abel...but I really think of them as a team...of sorts. This is definitely not from them being hosts of the DC mystery books. This is based on their use, predominantly by Neil Gaiman, and to a lesser extent Alan Moore and the Sandman spin-offs. While they were used largely as comic relief in Sandman there are definitely layers to each character that are hinted at in a very nuanced way. The two are archetypes...the first victim and the first murderer...roles they play out over and over. Yet when Abel is killed by The Kindly Ones, Cain is distraught and demands that Abel be restored, as only he is allowed to murder Abel.  Abel clearly loves his brother, though he has no good reason too. And he loves Goldie, the Gargoyle.  They are among the first story-tellers...and theirs is among the first of all stories. 
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Post by shaxper on Oct 3, 2016 13:06:02 GMT -5
Abel (and Cain). Maybe it's a cheat. If so, I'll say Abel...but I really think of them as a team...of sorts. If it's a cheat, then I'm in trouble next week  Essentially, I agree. It would be like having Bert without Ernie. The pair functions as a single presence. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2016 14:18:49 GMT -5
Week One-Ulysses Bloodstone, Monster Hunter I first encountered Bloodstone as a back up feature in the pages of The Rampaging Hulk, and later tracked down his appearances in Marvel Presents and delighted to the the Monster Hunters feature in the pages of Marvel Universe (plus his role informing the Bloodstone Hunt storyline in Captain America). The concept of a man made immortal because of a gem lodged in his chest while fighting a Lovecratian horror in prehistoric times now a professional monster hunter was just mind candy for this kid. While a somewhat minor character, his presence has infused the Marvel story through the Bloodstone Gem and through his descendants, creating a deeper mythology that appeals to me, yet at the same time I am disappointed there isn't more stories of Ulysses himself and not those legacy aspects. -M Bloodstone needs a TPB collecting all of his issues from Rampaging Hulk. I too wish Marvel had done more with the character and think a monster hunting Doc Savage style comic book would be awesome! His daughter is running around the current MU, no reason that she couldn't find daddy Bloodstone trapped in some horrific eternal fight trapped between dimensions and she free's him to continue the good fight... As for a trade, black and white trades didn't sell well enough for Marvel so they would have to color those back us which would split the market among those who might be interested because of those who like classic comics but do not like modern coloring or who want it in its original format who wouldn't buy a colored reprint and the rest of the market unlikely to buy a black and white book, which means it's likely too small a seller for them to bother with. As for Elsa and her daddy, the mystery of his fate is one of the key elements of the initial 4 issue mini by Abnett (and Lanning I think) that introduced her-the set up being the gem suddenly appeared in her chest which could only happen if her dad had been destroyed since he was immoral but the curse was eternal. Not sure if that's been retconned or not. Also iirc, the Bloodstone Hunt storyline in Cap also dealt with the legacy of the stone after Ulysses met his end (been a while since I read it) so there might already be 2 conflicting stories about that. But either way, an immortal monster hunter with a cursed gem lodge din his chest is not something that really fits the modern Marvel mythos or zeitgeist, so I don't expect to see it, but it made a nifty premise in the Five Ghosts series image did featuring a character called Fabian Gray, a treasure hunter ho is cursed with a hunk fo something called the Dream Stone in his chest.... (a character who woul dmake this list easily for me if it were more than 10 years old) -M |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Oct 3, 2016 14:55:37 GMT -5
You would consider 5 ghosts horror? I would think it has alot more in common with Indiana Jones or the Shadow than anything Horror-y. But then, I don't really like Horror (hence my lack of participation) so maybe it's just because I like it I don't think it fits |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2016 15:39:39 GMT -5
Some people make a distinction between horror movies and monster movies and wouldn't consider the Universal stuff horror movies, they were monster movies. Then they get even more narrowly focused and split between monster movies and creature features. For me, if it has monsters and ghosts and various forms of undead, it's under the umbrella of horror, but I actually prefer the wider label of weird fiction that was coined from the type of stories that appeared in the Weird Tales pulps, ranging from Lovecraft to Howard to sci-fi, or whatever. But for the purposes of this particular venue that Shax is running, I would use a little narrower umbrella, but as long as they are fighting monsters and undead and such, I would call it horror, and so Five Ghosts would fall under that, especially the later part of the run.
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Post by Paste Pot Paul on Oct 3, 2016 16:52:58 GMT -5
FLESH2000AD Bk1 1 - 19,Bk2 86 - 99 (1977 - 78)    That last caption in picture 3 says it all man... the appetite for the flesh they enjoyed most...HUMAN FLESH yeah boy!!! What self respecting chubby 13 year old nerd isnt scaring themselves silly reading this man. Dinosaurs man...eatin people. EATING. PEOPLE. Im there, Im so in Im almost out. Im also cheerin the damn dinos on cos they the good guys in this story too... stoopid greedy hoomins...killin poor innocent dinos...go get them Old One Eye (and soon her son Satannus who appears in the classic Cursed Earth storyline) are just like Kong man, misunderstood for doing what they do...so unfair. The other cool thing with this strip, and with the Cursed Earth chapters, is you see the Jurassic Park movies 20 years before they came around. So many elements are there, zoo/game reserve, dinos rampaging, and raptors...freakin raptors man. I'll line my Rexxies up gainst your candy@ss anthology hosts any day... cept Spectre man, he bad.
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Post by Rob Allen on Oct 3, 2016 17:02:41 GMT -5
Starting my Long Halloween with an idiosyncratic oddball choice: Dr. Archaeus from Eerie #54-61, by Gerry Boudreau (w) and Isidro Mones (a)  I started buying Eerie with issue #52, so this was early in my Warren reading, and this was the first of the ongoing series in Eerie that really caught my fancy. If the image above resembles Vincent Price, that's because the whole series is a ripoff of the Dr. Phibes movies, which I hadn't and still haven't seen. In this version, Dr. Alistair Archaeus is convicted of murder and hanged, but survives and takes revenge on the 12 jurors who convicted him - using the "12 Days of Christmas" song as the inspiration for each murder in turn. The first half-dozen chapters are really well done; I looked forward to this feature when a new issue of Eerie came out. Unfortunately Dr. Archaeus didn't get to all 12 jurors - the seventh chapter is a disappointing, rushed wrapup to the series. |
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Post by shaxper on Oct 3, 2016 19:47:56 GMT -5
Some people make a distinction between horror movies and monster movies and wouldn't consider the Universal stuff horror movies, they were monster movies. Then they get even more narrowly focused and split between monster movies and creature features. For me, if it has monsters and ghosts and various forms of undead, it's under the umbrella of horror, but I actually prefer the wider label of weird fiction that was coined from the type of stories that appeared in the Weird Tales pulps, ranging from Lovecraft to Howard to sci-fi, or whatever. But for the purposes of this particular venue that Shax is running, I would use a little narrower umbrella, but as long as they are fighting monsters and undead and such, I would call it horror, and so Five Ghosts would fall under that, especially the later part of the run. -M Defining horror is, inevitably, a personal thing. It can't simply mean "scary," as most would agree that Tod Browning's Dracula (1931) isn't scary, and yet many would also argue that, for example, James Cameron's Titanic (1997) was. Clearly, one is horror and one is not, and "scary" isn't a factor in that consideration. For me, horror primarily concerns itself with establishing a morbid tone. It's a oneness with death on the part of the film itself, not just on the part of one or more characters. Indiana Jones can fight a bad guy obsessed with death, but it isn't horror unless the filmmaker expresses that viewpoint in the shots, lighting, setting, and overall tone as well. As a result, in a horror film, there's seldom a sense of hope (unless it's fleeting). Death is omnipresent and inevitable; any struggle against death is an exercise in near futility. That sense of morbidity is the common thread across Browning's Dracula, Friday the 13th, and even the Saw series, so it's how I define a horror comic or character as well. Is this character primarily associated with stories and contexts that elicit a sense of oneness with death? |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Oct 3, 2016 19:48:05 GMT -5
FLESH2000AD Bk1 1 - 19,Bk2 86 - 99 (1977 - 78) That last caption in picture 3 says it all man... the appetite for the flesh they enjoyed most...HUMAN FLESH yeah boy!!! What self respecting chubby 13 year old nerd isnt scaring themselves silly reading this man. Dinosaurs man...eatin people. EATING. PEOPLE. Im there, Im so in Im almost out. Im also cheerin the damn dinos on cos they the good guys in this story too... stoopid greedy hoomins...killin poor innocent dinos...go get them Old One Eye (and soon her son Satannus who appears in the classic Cursed Earth storyline) are just like Kong man, misunderstood for doing what they do...so unfair. The other cool thing with this strip, and with the Cursed Earth chapters, is you see the Jurassic Park movies 20 years before they came around. So many elements are there, zoo/game reserve, dinos rampaging, and raptors...freakin raptors man. I'll line my Rexxies up gainst your candy@ss anthology hosts any day... cept Spectre man, he bad. Wow, I have to track these down that sounds like a great story. I really need to get into 2000AD, I love anthologies and I love weird stories so it should be right up my alley. |
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Post by shaxper on Oct 3, 2016 19:50:09 GMT -5
FLESH2000AD Bk1 1 - 19,Bk2 86 - 99 (1977 - 78) That last caption in picture 3 says it all man... the appetite for the flesh they enjoyed most...HUMAN FLESH yeah boy!!! What self respecting chubby 13 year old nerd isnt scaring themselves silly reading this man. Dinosaurs man...eatin people. EATING. PEOPLE. Im there, Im so in Im almost out. Im also cheerin the damn dinos on cos they the good guys in this story too... stoopid greedy hoomins...killin poor innocent dinos...go get them Old One Eye (and soon her son Satannus who appears in the classic Cursed Earth storyline) are just like Kong man, misunderstood for doing what they do...so unfair. The other cool thing with this strip, and with the Cursed Earth chapters, is you see the Jurassic Park movies 20 years before they came around. So many elements are there, zoo/game reserve, dinos rampaging, and raptors...freakin raptors man. I'll line my Rexxies up gainst your candy@ss anthology hosts any day... cept Spectre man, he bad. Wow, I have to track these down that sounds like a great story. I really need to get into 2000AD, I love anthologies and I love weird stories so it should be right up my alley. There was at least one follow-up to "Flesh" around 2008 or so, in which cattle ranchers from the future were time traveling back to capture and slaughter dinosaurs for their meat. Weird inversion of the initial premise. |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Oct 3, 2016 19:54:05 GMT -5
Starting my Long Halloween with an idiosyncratic oddball choice: Dr. Archaeus from Eerie #54-61, by Gerry Boudreau (w) and Isidro Mones (a) I started buying Eerie with issue #52, so this was early in my Warren reading, and this was the first of the ongoing series in Eerie that really caught my fancy. If the image above resembles Vincent Price, that's because the whole series is a ripoff of the Dr. Phibes movies, which I hadn't and still haven't seen. In this version, Dr. Alistair Archaeus is convicted of murder and hanged, but survives and takes revenge on the 12 jurors who convicted him - using the "12 Days of Christmas" song as the inspiration for each murder in turn. The first half-dozen chapters are really well done; I looked forward to this feature when a new issue of Eerie came out. Unfortunately Dr. Archaeus didn't get to all 12 jurors - the seventh chapter is a disappointing, rushed wrapup to the series. I've never heard of this but I love the Abominable Dr. Phibes and Dr. Phibes rises Again are two of my favorite Price films so I need to track this one down for sure. |
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Oct 3, 2016 21:38:42 GMT -5
#5: N'Kantu The Living Mummy from Supernatural ThrillersThis run from Supernatural Thrillers is great in my opinion. You get covers from Brunner, Romita and Kane over the 10 issues or so that he was featured in the series (Kane's covers being my favourite). Gerber did the first few stories, before Tony Isabella took over most of the primary stories. I know Isabella did work on Ghost Rider, of which I have not read, and other Marvel titles. I do not know what ranks as his best stuff but for me, this is worth the read, if not for the artwork alone. My two favourite covers are below.  
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Post by thwhtguardian on Oct 3, 2016 22:01:54 GMT -5
#5: N'Kantu The Living Mummy from Supernatural ThrillersThis run from Supernatural Thrillers is great in my opinion. You get covers from Brunner, Romita and Kane over the 10 issues or so that he was featured in the series (Kane's covers being my favourite). Gerber did the first few stories, before Tony Isabella took over most of the primary stories. I know Isabella did work on Ghost Rider, of which I have not read, and other Marvel titles. I do not know what ranks as his best stuff but for me, this is worth the read, if not for the artwork alone. My two favourite covers are below. I loved him in the Legion of Monsters book that Marvel put out a few years back but I never read the original. |
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Post by Paste Pot Paul on Oct 4, 2016 0:38:35 GMT -5
#5: N'Kantu The Living Mummy from Supernatural ThrillersThis run from Supernatural Thrillers is great in my opinion. You get covers from Brunner, Romita and Kane over the 10 issues or so that he was featured in the series (Kane's covers being my favourite). Mate, this cover is just awesome, one of the reasons you could argue for Gil Kane as the best cover artists of all, always so dynamic. |
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