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Post by Hoosier X on Nov 2, 2016 19:57:14 GMT -5
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Post by foxley on Nov 2, 2016 21:13:59 GMT -5
The black background seals the deal for me. If there is too much happening back there, I don't think it stands out as much. I wonder if it would have been more striking if cap was holding his shield? I have never read the issue but it is in the ole want list. Probably not (in my opinion). Part of the dramatic effect of the cover is the shock of seeing Cap wielding an Uzi. And he is lit by the muzzle flash of the gun in a way that he wouldn't be if he was just holding the shield.
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Post by foxley on Nov 2, 2016 21:18:31 GMT -5
There is something really striking about this image (even if it is Zeck homaging one of his famous Punisher covers). The cover does depict a scene from the story, and it is well worth reading (although the interior art is by Paul Neary and not Mike Zeck). The events of this issue were to have an ongoing effect on the title for some time. Thanks foxley. I'll see if I can snag a TPB of it and give it a read. Who was the writer for it? Did Zeck do any interior art in the storyline? This was when Mark Gruenwald was writing Cap in the mid 80s. (Wow! Was it really that long ago?) The is issue is a key one in the run-up to the 'Captain America No More' arc. Zeck did several covers around this time, but the interior art was all by Neary.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2016 21:21:07 GMT -5
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Post by Bronze Age Brian on Nov 2, 2016 21:27:35 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2016 21:36:16 GMT -5
Wha? Cap with a gun? And looking more fierce than Punisher on his best day. There is something really striking about this image (even if it is Zeck homaging one of his famous Punisher covers). The cover does depict a scene from the story, and it is well worth reading (although the interior art is by Paul Neary and not Mike Zeck). The events of this issue were to have an ongoing effect on the title for some time. I was just discovering the fan press when that issue came out and I remember it stirred up quite the sh*tstorm in the letters pages of things like CBG and other zines. People were lambasting Marvel for not getting Cap, people threatening to boycott the book because Cap used a gun, etc. If there had been an internet in those days it would have ben even worse as mob mentality would have been even worse and I am guessing Gruenwald, Zeck and company might have gotten death threats the way Spencer did with Hydra Cap a while back, because it was quite the same tone of response in fandom to that cover back in the day. -M
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2016 21:44:48 GMT -5
Was a big Cap fan at the time, and this remains my fave cover from then:
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 2, 2016 21:45:22 GMT -5
There is something really striking about this image (even if it is Zeck homaging one of his famous Punisher covers). The cover does depict a scene from the story, and it is well worth reading (although the interior art is by Paul Neary and not Mike Zeck). The events of this issue were to have an ongoing effect on the title for some time. I was just discovering the fan press when that issue came out and I remember it stirred up quite the sh*tstorm in the letters pages of things like CBG and other zines. People were lambasting Marvel for not getting Cap, people threatening to boycott the book because Cap used a gun, etc. If there had been an internet in those days it would have ben even worse as mob mentality would have been even worse and I am guessing Gruenwald, Zeck and company might have gotten death threats the way Spencer did with Hydra Cap a while back, because it was quite the same tone of response in fandom to that cover back in the day. -M People forget he was a soldier. I always liked the fact, though, that he was beyond needing a gun as an offensive weapon, which is why I've had more problems with the more casual use of guns with Cap, in more recent years (meaning Cap, not Bucky as Cap). One of my favorite (and short-lived) books at Eclipse was Chuck Dixon and Tom Lyle's Strike, which featured a WW2 predecessor, Sgt Strike, which was essentially Cap if he carried a gun (a .50 cal machine gun!) and wasn't quite so noble. I enjoyed it so much I got a sketch of the character when I met Tom Lyle, when he had moved on to Starman. The book also had a fake history of the character, claiming it was an obscure Golden Age character, created by a cereal company that produced comics as premiums. Dixon had enough people believing it that he had to cop to the truth, as so many people were asking about where to find the original comics. They even "reprinted" some of the GA adventures of Sgt Strike, as well as a cloaked hero, The Rattler (a Shadow knockoff).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2016 1:25:04 GMT -5
That's a cool cover by him ... I could had pick that too.
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Post by Prince Hal on Nov 3, 2016 9:15:36 GMT -5
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Nov 3, 2016 10:08:09 GMT -5
Can't believe I forgot about this cover. Especially since it was the first LOTDK issue I bought, because the cover was so awesome. (And the interior art.)
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Post by hondobrode on Nov 3, 2016 10:50:29 GMT -5
That was my pick until I found the X-Men cover I used.
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Post by hondobrode on Nov 3, 2016 10:51:46 GMT -5
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Post by hondobrode on Nov 3, 2016 10:54:51 GMT -5
I was just discovering the fan press when that issue came out and I remember it stirred up quite the sh*tstorm in the letters pages of things like CBG and other zines. People were lambasting Marvel for not getting Cap, people threatening to boycott the book because Cap used a gun, etc. If there had been an internet in those days it would have ben even worse as mob mentality would have been even worse and I am guessing Gruenwald, Zeck and company might have gotten death threats the way Spencer did with Hydra Cap a while back, because it was quite the same tone of response in fandom to that cover back in the day. -M People forget he was a soldier. I always liked the fact, though, that he was beyond needing a gun as an offensive weapon, which is why I've had more problems with the more casual use of guns with Cap, in more recent years (meaning Cap, not Bucky as Cap). One of my favorite (and short-lived) books at Eclipse was Chuck Dixon and Tom Lyle's Strike, which featured a WW2 predecessor, Sgt Strike, which was essentially Cap if he carried a gun (a .50 cal machine gun!) and wasn't quite so noble. I enjoyed it so much I got a sketch of the character when I met Tom Lyle, when he had moved on to Starman. The book also had a fake history of the character, claiming it was an obscure Golden Age character, created by a cereal company that produced comics as premiums. Dixon had enough people believing it that he had to cop to the truth, as so many people were asking about where to find the original comics. They even "reprinted" some of the GA adventures of Sgt Strike, as well as a cloaked hero, The Rattler (a Shadow knockoff). I remember seeing the character but I don't think I have those issues. Now look what ya done !
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2016 11:58:28 GMT -5
Thanks. I was here for about a year under a different username until I deleted my account. Decided to try this again. On another note I got Mike Zeck to sign my copy of this book too when I met him at Buffalo Comic Con in September. My favourite cover by him. Also got Mike Grell and a slew of others to sign some stuff too.
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