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Post by BigPapaJoe on Jan 14, 2019 22:35:53 GMT -5
If money wasn't an obstacle, would you leave the USA for another country? Or would you want to stay?
As an expat living in South Asia, I don't think I'd ever want to move back. Just visit from time to time. I really can't stand the politic climate, racial strife, plethora of socioeconomic issues, lack of safety, and the overboard capitalism that has basically kept half of the population from having a sense of living normal. The more time that passes, the more I'm glad I left.
I want to hear what others think though.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 4:26:31 GMT -5
BigPapaJoe -- I would live in New Zealand for the variety of land changes, climate, beaches, hiking, and most of all ... I would love to see the Emerald Lake near Mt Tongariro. Offer a lot of diversity, go sailing around the Bay of Islands, Visit Whangarei Falls and I heard it is a great place to relax and enjoy yourself and have a meal there. See Haku Falls Breathtaking and Gorgeous Mt. Victoria Lookout -- Here's an example of that ... And, visit Wellington too. Emerald Lake ... Spectacular Views
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Post by Confessor on Jan 15, 2019 7:13:20 GMT -5
If money wasn't an obstacle, would you leave the USA for another country? Or would you want to stay? If money was no obstacle, I'd live in the USA! I'd still keep a place in England though, just so I could return a few times a year.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 15, 2019 7:26:49 GMT -5
I wouldn't leave the US, but I do want to leave NY.
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Post by The Captain on Jan 15, 2019 8:08:47 GMT -5
If money were no obstacle, I would definitely consider leaving the US to go to Canada, specifically the Toronto area. I've been to the city close to a dozen times in my life and absolutely love the vibe and feel of it.
That said, my wife has told me she will never move farther north than we already are, and my parents and sister would kill me for moving my girls away from them (my girls are their only grandchildren and nieces, respectively), so I would not be actually able to go even if money weren't a consideration.
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Post by BigPapaJoe on Jan 15, 2019 9:58:01 GMT -5
If money wasn't an obstacle, would you leave the USA for another country? Or would you want to stay? If money was no obstacle, I'd live in the USA! I'd still keep a place in England though, just so I could return a few times a year. Why would you want to live in America?
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Post by beccabear67 on Jan 15, 2019 13:17:37 GMT -5
I keep getting into situations where I wind up in the U.S., but I would keep my Canadian citizenship. I've faced three times in my life the question of becoming a U.S. citizen and each time it's been difficult. Despite a great grandmother who was, and various more distant relatives on both my Mom's and Dad's side, I don't feel like I can not be a Canadian. Anyway, 'they' don't know how to play hide the moose properly in the States. The correct time for it is the winter of course... it's way way way too hard to find the moose in the summer!
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Post by Confessor on Jan 15, 2019 14:54:43 GMT -5
Why would you want to live in America? Because a) it's a wonderful country, full of (mostly) very nice people; b) you get a lot more for your money in America; c) culturally, the U.S. seems to put more emphasis on preserving its traditions than the UK does; d) because it's still the centre of the pop culture universe; and e) because it's the home of the music I love and have spent my whole life listening to and playing. I mean, don't get me wrong, I like the UK an awful lot too (an awful lot!), but America is a very special country too. You live there, so you're probably a bit blasé to its charms. But take my word for it, you're very, very lucky indeed to live in a country as wealthy, secure and welcoming as America.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 14:56:07 GMT -5
And they don't have to pay for a TV licence, either!
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Post by Confessor on Jan 15, 2019 15:00:23 GMT -5
And they don't have to pay for a TV licence, either! Yeah, but then, they don't have the BBC either. I mean, BBC4 is worth the license fee alone. Especially since my wife pays it!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 15:02:23 GMT -5
I'd feel safer in the US. There seems to be so much law enforcement over there: city cops, county sheriffs, state troopers, specialist police, federal agencies, etc.
I mean, I learnt recently that there's such a thing as the United States Park Police. What?! Why can't we have park police over here?
Sorry, rambling now...
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Post by Confessor on Jan 15, 2019 15:09:35 GMT -5
I'd feel safer in the US. There seems to be so much law enforcement over there: city cops, county sheriffs, state troopers, specialist police, federal agencies, etc. I mean, I learnt recently that there's such a thing as the United States Park Police. What?! Why can't we have park police over here? Sorry, rambling now... Yeah, that's my impression too. There just seems to be more money for policing in the U.S. than in the UK. In Massachusetts and New Jersey, I noticed that every roadworks site had a squad car and two police officers stationed there, just helping out with traffic and keeping an eye on things. For roadworks?!
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Post by Prince Hal on Jan 15, 2019 15:18:15 GMT -5
I'd feel safer in the US. There seems to be so much law enforcement over there: city cops, county sheriffs, state troopers, specialist police, federal agencies, etc. I mean, I learnt recently that there's such a thing as the United States Park Police. What?! Why can't we have park police over here? Sorry, rambling now... Yeah, that's my impression too. There just seems to be more money for policing in the U.S. than in the UK. In Massachusetts and New Jersey, I noticed that every roadworks site had a squad car and two police officers stationed there, just helping out with traffic and keeping an eye on things. For roadworks?! The power of the police union. No private flagmen allowed. I'm a union guy, btw. Glad you appreciated seeing a trained professional directing traffic instead of the alternative.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 15:19:45 GMT -5
I have noticed that US forces, state or city, appear to have graduation classes every year (county sheriff departments, too). I did read that the NYPD has never stopped recruiting in its history.
And I learnt of forces I would never have imagined existing, e.g. United States Mint Police.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 15:54:34 GMT -5
I second New Zealand for it's outstanding natural beauty - I spent 5 or 6 weeks driving a motorhome around there a few years ago (and am going back again this year), and basicaly ran out of superlatives - "wow look at that forest! {rounds bend} OMG - look a mountain! {rounds another bend} OMG - and now a view over the sea {rounds another bend} ...". I would very very highly recommend going there, and it's a lot easier to get there from the US than from here (and another plus point, as US nationals LAX probably wouldn't be so unutterably vile, if you went via there)
However, I'm not sure I'd want to live there. It's great for the outdoorsy life, it's very very safe (other than the occasional earth-quake!) and the government is pretty progressive (so pretty left-wing by US standards, centre-left by European), but it's a bit limited culturally and doesn't have much in the way of wildlife (it's all been eaten by the possums (or "speed-humps" as the Kiwis call them)) - it feels a bit like the UK in the 1970s or 80s (but without the piles of garbage in the streets from the former, or the New Romantic haircuts from the latter). Even the Kiwis that I work with (I'm in IT and there are loads of Aussies and Kiwis over here), tend not to go home for more than a break because they find it boring in comparison. It's also pretty expensive - ie par or more expensive than the UK once relative salaries and exchange rate were taken into account, so probably much more expensive than the US for most things, especially food and property prices, which are at insane UK levels in a lot of areas.
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