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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 21, 2020 5:43:59 GMT -5
People are still getting it despite wearing masks. It seems like its something that has to go through the population no matter what we do.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Nov 21, 2020 10:43:18 GMT -5
People are still getting it despite wearing masks. It seems like its something that has to go through the population no matter what we do. True, but wearing masks and keeping our distances does slow down the epidemic. It's like staying at home and not making any noise during a zombie apocalypse: it won't get rid of the zombies but fewer of us will get bidden, reducing both the number of deaths and the number of zombies going around. |
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Post by impulse on Nov 21, 2020 11:20:48 GMT -5
Also, it would be more effective if everyone did it. When half the population refuses, the effectiveness goes way down. Your mask protects others from your respiratory droplets more than. It protects you from theirs. That’s why if everyone does it, we’re all safer.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2020 12:23:28 GMT -5
So much like MRP mentioned, my internet has kind of been all over the place. On phones, I'm getting one or two bars. On computer, browsers just do what they want with pages either needing to be refreshed several times in order to fully load properly or just not doing so at all and our Direct TV has been acting up as well. I called AT&T customer support earlier and the automaton said that everything was fine on on my end through a quick test (i.e. good download and upload speed), but I might need to restart my box. Honestly, I'm not sure if that will really help things
I once called the help-desk and the idiot on the other side thought I might have a virus. So I told him to end my service and got another provider. As soon as they attached the cable...whoosh...high-speed. No virus, just a moron on the first provider's help-desk.
My current speed is 250mb, great for movies, I can download 1 gig in about 30 secs.
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Post by Batflunkie on Nov 21, 2020 13:04:53 GMT -5
My current speed is 250mb, great for movies, I can download 1 gig in about 30 secs I might as well be a third world country compared to you. I think they said that I had 3mbs upload speed and 5mbs download speed IDK, I went from having dial-up to this so anything is better from my point of view |
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Post by beccabear67 on Nov 21, 2020 13:06:20 GMT -5
I put them off for most of the year but I have to go and get blood and other tests. I plan to go as early as possible which will mean fewer people will have been through before me, plus the fasting requirement for some of the tests will end that much sooner. We have a website that shows which labs are open, when and how long the wait times are, but not sure how accurate the wait time might be, the other day it showed 50 minutes. We now have a mandatory indoor masks order at least. The weak point is they are doing everything by faxes these days and the volume is beyond what was ever planned for so any individual pharmacies might not have gotten to mine yet or even gotten it at all which has already happened once. So that's another possible extra trip there. Luckily we are still in very low numbers where I am but as I say, aim high at all times (then cut some Bob Dobbs style slack when you inevitably don't make perfection). My Dad is pretty much back to normal so I don't have to put off my own health stuff any longer. I'm probably going to look at selling off some vinyl records somewhere... I have a few very collected LPs I made copies of since that ought to be easy to move, but the stacks of 7"-ers would be really nice to just get rid of... I used to go crazy getting every non-LP single side by artists like The Pozo Seco Singers, Gene & Debbe, Terry Jacks, The Gentrys, Chilliwack, The Staccatos... and almost every time Sundazed or someone else would put out a CD with every single one collected and sounding better than my own version!  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2020 16:32:47 GMT -5
People are still getting it despite wearing masks. It seems like its something that has to go through the population no matter what we do. honestly a mask only helps a little. If you really want to be safer in addition to a mask wear a face shield or goggles. Droplets can be absorbed into your tears which lubricate your eyes (which drain into your nasal passages) |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2020 23:23:20 GMT -5
When it rains, it pours sometimes. The daughter-in-law of the owner of my work has been undergoing chemo in her fight for breast cancer, but today found out she has tested positive for COVID and is having (so far) mild symptoms, but her oncologist is concerned because her white blood cell count is so low due to the chemo. For those so inclined, please keep Jess in your thoughts/prayers.
-M
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Post by impulse on Nov 23, 2020 9:27:58 GMT -5
People are still getting it despite wearing masks. It seems like its something that has to go through the population no matter what we do. honestly a mask only helps a little. If you really want to be safer in addition to a mask wear a face shield or goggles. Droplets can be absorbed into your tears which lubricate your eyes (which drain into your nasal passages) Which is why it is so important that everyone wear the masks since their primary function is to keep the wearers respiratory droplets out of the air and contained. If everyone wore a proper mask anytime they interacted with anyone outside of their bubble, there would be far fewer opportunities for someone else to pick up a significant dose. |
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Post by beccabear67 on Nov 23, 2020 13:37:31 GMT -5
When it rains, it pours sometimes. The daughter-in-law of the owner of my work has been undergoing chemo in her fight for breast cancer, but today found out she has tested positive for COVID and is having (so far) mild symptoms, but her oncologist is concerned because her white blood cell count is so low due to the chemo. For those so inclined, please keep Jess in your thoughts/prayers. -M Thinking good thoughts! So much stress out there these days... |
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Post by beccabear67 on Nov 23, 2020 13:56:14 GMT -5
The latest info I have seen is that surfaces are much less of a transmission point than originally thought. It's in the air. So if someone who has the virus, and maybe might not even know it, wears a mask it keeps their breath from going say eight feet but maybe only one foot around them. This is the main function of a mask. Surgeons wear them when doing operations in case they might give something to the patient (and the exposed area being operated on). They've been doing that for maybe a century now? The ideal for the self protection aspect would be a clear plastic full face shield. If I were at high risk I wouldn't care what I looked like, I'd wear whatever it took. Two or three-ply masks for the mouth taped at the side, and my glasses works for me, and I keep a small hand sanitizer with me, but I've had that for ages now. It was sort of erratic here where masks were made available or given out, ideally everyone should've had a pack of two or three sent to them at the start of this with instructions and rationale behind them. People were left on their own often and there was not a unified message from all corners on it as there ought to have been.  Think how many lives and incomes would've been spared had we, on first knowledge of the virus, forcibly quarantined incoming people from outbreak areas and paid for their lost incomes. We'd have collectively paid pennies over millions probably. It's not like there haven't been outbreaks of things before to have learned from. Now I'd say it's about as bad as it could've been in many places, we might as well have just been dumb animals in a forest fire (and don't get me started on forest maintenance cuts and letting nature handle itself over recent years, talk about asking for trouble). Things cost what they cost, there does not have to be two extremes on everything... sometimes there is a knowable solid truth and it might be in the center and, not exciting, yet very important to recognize. If someone one 'doesn't like' has the accurate information on something, you don't have to 'decide' to take the 'opposite' position as part of an identity. Learning, and actively looking to learn, is a position anyone can take. John Campbell wrote that education has traditionally something that's head to be imposed, also called learning the hard way. I hate learning that way. I want to learn the much easier way, from other people who probably learned the hard way!  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2020 14:05:02 GMT -5
After a tense few days I received my test results and was negative for COVID.
I didn't have any symptoms, but the grocery store decided on mandatory testing for all employees. Now to find out if any of my fellow employees have tested positive and whether or not we'll have to shut the store down for two weeks.
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Post by beccabear67 on Nov 23, 2020 14:42:23 GMT -5
I think here they have only ever shut a site down for 24-48 hours for cleaning/ventilation. If the remaining staff are not infected then there's nothing to transmit. I guess it's hard to get the balance right but definitely businesses that are not the major transmission sites, which is a lot of them, shouldn't be forced totally closed. Like I say, learning the hard way. Mandatory masks and distancing should actually help the majority of businesses to stay safely open, including restaurants... everyone needs to be on the same page though, which doesn't seem to be reality. And I've heard there are lots of people going to work knowing they are sick because they simply can't afford to lose the pay. |
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Post by impulse on Nov 23, 2020 14:56:47 GMT -5
The latest info I have seen is that surfaces are much less of a transmission point than originally thought. It's in the air. So if someone who has the virus, and maybe might not even know it, wears a mask it keeps their breath from going say eight feet but maybe only one foot around them. This is the main function of a mask. Surgeons wear them when doing operations in case they might give something to the patient (and the exposed area being operated on). They've been doing that for maybe a century now? The ideal for the self protection aspect would be a clear plastic full face shield. If I were at high risk I wouldn't care what I looked like, I'd wear whatever it took. Two or three-ply masks for the mouth taped at the side, and my glasses works for me, and I keep a small hand sanitizer with me, but I've had that for ages now. It was sort of erratic here where masks were made available or given out, ideally everyone should've had a pack of two or three sent to them at the start of this with instructions and rationale behind them. People were left on their own often and there was not a unified message from all corners on it as there ought to have been. Think how many lives and incomes would've been spared had we, on first knowledge of the virus, forcibly quarantined incoming people from outbreak areas and paid for their lost incomes. We'd have collectively paid pennies over millions probably. It's not like there haven't been outbreaks of things before to have learned from. Now I'd say it's about as bad as it could've been in many places, we might as well have just been dumb animals in a forest fire (and don't get me started on forest maintenance cuts and letting nature handle itself over recent years, talk about asking for trouble). Things cost what they cost, there does not have to be two extremes on everything... sometimes there is a knowable solid truth and it might be in the center and, not exciting, yet very important to recognize. If someone one 'doesn't like' has the accurate information on something, you don't have to 'decide' to take the 'opposite' position as part of an identity. Learning, and actively looking to learn, is a position anyone can take. John Campbell wrote that education has traditionally something that's head to be imposed, also called learning the hard way. I hate learning that way. I want to learn the much easier way, from other people who probably learned the hard way! Unfortunately, there is a lot of virulent anti-intellectualism and tribalism out there for some reason. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2020 0:20:42 GMT -5
I know a perfectly rational explanation for this will eventually surface, but I find myself fascinated by the story of the strange metal monolith recently discovered in Utah. It was spotted from a helicopter while the Department of Safety was conducting a routine survey of big horn sheep in the area.  and for scale...  one story I read said it was made from stainless steel and held together with rivets, so it's obviously man-made and not some callback to the monolith of 2001: A Space Odyssey, but it's in such an isolated spot and wasn't likely to be found at random, which leaves me wondering who and why it was put there. Some speculate it was some kind of art installation, but again, it wasn't likely to be found so why do it there. Whatever the explanation (and I fully expect it to be a mundane one), my curiosity is abuzz over this. I'm sure the explanation will end up being mildly unsatisfying, but I still want to know. -M |
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