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Post by DE Sinclair on Feb 4, 2015 14:27:19 GMT -5
Do retailers pay more for variants if the cover price is the same? They only had the action figure variant of Star Wars #2 today and it's cover price was $3.99 but it rang up $5.99. I acted like I didn't know why it was $5.99 and got it for $3.99, but it made me wonder if they had to pay more for it. I know they frequently have to buy a certain number of the regular issues to get the variant, but I've never heard if the actual price paid for the variant is higher.
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Post by badwolf on Feb 4, 2015 14:40:16 GMT -5
First they bring Phoenix back, now the Mockingbird... no one stays dead any more...
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Feb 4, 2015 14:48:10 GMT -5
First they bring Phoenix back, now the Mockingbird... no one stays dead any more... No one ever did.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 15:07:41 GMT -5
Do retailers pay more for variants if the cover price is the same? They only had the action figure variant of Star Wars #2 today and it's cover price was $3.99 but it rang up $5.99. I acted like I didn't know why it was $5.99 and got it for $3.99, but it made me wonder if they had to pay more for it. I know they frequently have to buy a certain number of the regular issues to get the variant, but I've never heard if the actual price paid for the variant is higher. Most variants are 1 in x for retailers or order x and order as many of the variant as you want, meaning they have to buy X number of copies before they can order the variant. If it is a 1 in 50 variant, and they normally only order 30 copies of said book, they have to order 20 extra copies of a book (so for a $3.99 book that's 20 copies at about $2 per, in order to get the variant. While they only pay $2 for the variant, their cost to get it is usually calculated at $42 in that instance because those extra 20 books are not likely to sell, so the price they charge on the variant will reflect that extra cost. Some variants now are no minimum order to buy in (DCs theme month for instance) and some are random (like a lot of Dynamite's cover) and shouldn't cost more than the normal cover, but if it is a minimum order variant that retailers have to reach a plateau o get, then the extra cost is most likely to be passed along to the consumer. -M
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 15:47:45 GMT -5
That's what I thought, thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 20:42:34 GMT -5
Sometimes my computer is so good at tailored ads it scares me. It has to be a combination of coincidence and my computer use giving them enough info to make an educated guess on what I want next and not just spam me with more options to buy what I just bought or looked at. But I can be at an actual store looking at something and later when I log onto Facebook it's in my feed as a sponsored post.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2015 1:27:06 GMT -5
For the last 2 months I have been struggling with Planar fasciitis in my right foot, but tonight was the first time I had to actually leave work early because I couldn't bear the pain enough to keep working. I've developed a high tolerance for pain over the years, but tonight that tolerance got exceeded. Luckily my boss understood, she knows I have been struggling with it and showing up and doing the job despite it, and it was a slow night because of the weather, so I went home early and have tried to stay off the foot as much as possible, but I never realized how much I took for granted the simple ability to get up and walk without struggling until I developed this, and tonight especially I realized how much it is impacting me. I have tomorrow off, and aside form a trip to the post office delayed by thee weather form earlier in the week to mail out some stuff for the CCE, I plan on staying off it a day and see if I can get back on my feet enough to do Friday's split shift...oh the joys of growing older and heavier...
-M
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Post by thwhtguardian on Feb 5, 2015 11:43:17 GMT -5
For the last 2 months I have been struggling with Planar fasciitis in my right foot, but tonight was the first time I had to actually leave work early because I couldn't bear the pain enough to keep working. I've developed a high tolerance for pain over the years, but tonight that tolerance got exceeded. Luckily my boss understood, she knows I have been struggling with it and showing up and doing the job despite it, and it was a slow night because of the weather, so I went home early and have tried to stay off the foot as much as possible, but I never realized how much I took for granted the simple ability to get up and walk without struggling until I developed this, and tonight especially I realized how much it is impacting me. I have tomorrow off, and aside form a trip to the post office delayed by thee weather form earlier in the week to mail out some stuff for the CCE, I plan on staying off it a day and see if I can get back on my feet enough to do Friday's split shift...oh the joys of growing older and heavier... -M Hopefully the rest helps man.
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Post by The Captain on Feb 5, 2015 15:52:09 GMT -5
For the last 2 months I have been struggling with Planar fasciitis in my right foot, but tonight was the first time I had to actually leave work early because I couldn't bear the pain enough to keep working. I've developed a high tolerance for pain over the years, but tonight that tolerance got exceeded. Luckily my boss understood, she knows I have been struggling with it and showing up and doing the job despite it, and it was a slow night because of the weather, so I went home early and have tried to stay off the foot as much as possible, but I never realized how much I took for granted the simple ability to get up and walk without struggling until I developed this, and tonight especially I realized how much it is impacting me. I have tomorrow off, and aside form a trip to the post office delayed by thee weather form earlier in the week to mail out some stuff for the CCE, I plan on staying off it a day and see if I can get back on my feet enough to do Friday's split shift...oh the joys of growing older and heavier... -M Sorry to hear about this. I went through a bout of it about 3 years ago that lasted for 8-9 months. It got to the point that I started considering surgery, but luckily, through stretching exercises, wrapping my foot at night to keep the muscles from tightening, and a lot of rest, I was able to correct much of the issue and avoid going under the knife. Be praying for relief and healing for you.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2015 18:09:38 GMT -5
I know they frequently have to buy a certain number of the regular issues to get the variant, but I've never heard if the actual price paid for the variant is higher. Most variants are 1 in x for retailers or order x and order as many of the variant as you want, meaning they have to buy X number of copies before they can order the variant. If it is a 1 in 50 variant, and they normally only order 30 copies of said book, they have to order 20 extra copies of a book (so for a $3.99 book that's 20 copies at about $2 per, in order to get the variant. While they only pay $2 for the variant, their cost to get it is usually calculated at $42 in that instance because those extra 20 books are not likely to sell, so the price they charge on the variant will reflect that extra cost. Some variants now are no minimum order to buy in (DCs theme month for instance) and some are random (like a lot of Dynamite's cover) and shouldn't cost more than the normal cover, but if it is a minimum order variant that retailers have to reach a plateau o get, then the extra cost is most likely to be passed along to the consumer. -M Some comic shop owner explained that logic to me in the 90's and I said I thought I should get all 20 comics plus the variant then. Never went back.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2015 22:45:54 GMT -5
I'm cool with charging more for the variant you had to up your order for, as long as the regular version is also there. I probably still won't buy it if it's more than like $6, though.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2015 3:59:51 GMT -5
Charging more is fine, if it's a chase variant. But the logic of "I had to order 50 of the regular comic for it so I'm charging 50X cover price" doesn't fly with me.
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Post by the4thpip on Feb 6, 2015 4:03:49 GMT -5
Charging more is fine, if it's a chase variant. But the logic of "I had to order 50 of the regular comic for it so I'm charging 50X cover price" doesn't fly with me. Well, they are very likely to have to sell a lot of the regular cover books for less than they paid for in the 50 cent boxes etc.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2015 4:13:02 GMT -5
They'll probably have that overpriced variant on the wall for 15 years until the store closes and it's liquidated at 50 cents too with that kind of business plan.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2015 5:56:41 GMT -5
They'll probably have that overpriced variant on the wall for 15 years until the store closes and it's liquidated at 50 cents too with that kind of business plan. Smart retailers only order the variants they have customers already waiting for (likely pull customers or regular walk ins they know buy variants) and maybe 1 or 2 "for the racks" if they meet the criteria for them after buying the guaranteed sales (i.e. if there are 1 in 25 variants and 1 in 50 variants, and you know you have a customer for the 1 in 50, you order the 50 copies of the regular, you order 2 of the 1 in 25 since you already qualify and the 1 in 50, sell the 1 in 50, your regular number of standard edition and put the 2 1 in 25 variants out for sale since the extra copies were made up for in the 1 in 50 variant sold to a waiting regular), and if they are smart, they have those 1 in 25 variants for sale for a week or so after release for their walk in customers, then if they haven't sold, put up on ebay or the like to move and get it sold while the demand is still there. But that requires a retailer who knows the buying habits of his customer base, knows his sell through patterns and puts the effort to run an online storefront (via ebay or somewhere else) in addition to his brick and mortar store. If you are upping orders and ordering variants for your shop as a shot in the dark, well your business is likely to fail with or without the extra expenditure for the variants because you are not doing your due diligence as the business owner. -M
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