|
|
Post by rom on Jan 28, 2017 22:58:11 GMT -5
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 23:11:44 GMT -5
It's only because Adrian Chase is currently appearing on this season of Arrow. -M |
|
|
|
Post by rom on Jan 29, 2017 19:05:47 GMT -5
Good to know - I'm only up through Season 4 of Arrow; I'll wait for S5 to hit Blu before I see this.
In any case, glad this obscure series is finally being reprinted, no matter what the reason. Hopefully they will finish out the series & reprint all 50 issues & the Annuals.
|
|
|
|
Post by rom on Apr 19, 2017 17:57:11 GMT -5
Just got the first Vigilante Trade, reprinting NTT Annual #2, as well as the first 11 issues of the regular Vigilante series. Great to finally see this underrated '80's series reprinted! AFAIK, the 11 issues of the series itself have never been reprinted anywhere. As far as the specifics re: the Trade itself, this has a great presentation, and includes: a great new intro. by Marv Wolfman; all of the covers are included between the relevant issues; very good paper quality; and, there is a nice Vigilante pin-up in the back (this was probably taken from one of the issues reprinted - I think). I remember getting many of these issues as they were released, and really enjoying the series. It was far more than just a "Punisher" copycat character, and many of the stories were far darker & more horrific than anything Marvel was coming up with at the time. I hope that all 50 issues & the 2 Annuals from the first series are reprinted in forthcoming Trades: dc.wikia.com/wiki/Vigilante/CoversAnd, here's an interesting retrospective article on the title: dcinthe80s.tumblr.com/post/52397854250/vigilante |
|
|
|
Post by Batflunkie on Apr 19, 2017 18:05:30 GMT -5
Now, this is just my two cents and I'm trying my best to phrase this eloquently and tactfully: Vigilante and Wild Dog will always be seen as Punisher knock-offs regardless of who wrote them just to give the finger to copyright law. Same goes for Manhunter even though it's a more interesting premise compared to how utterly vanilla Vigilante is. But Manhunter feels more like predecessor to Grell's take on Green Arrow and is comparatively less interesting then the latter
None of the characters mentioned are awful, they're unique in their own way and everybody deserves to have something to relate to, whether it be a role model or some character printed on newspulp
|
|
|
|
Post by foxley on Apr 19, 2017 18:30:29 GMT -5
You're entitled to your opinion, but I always found Vigilante a far more nuanced character than the Punisher. Vigilante was troubled by the morality of his actions, and in particular his belief in the rule of law. The Punisher just shoots people and revels in how awesome shooting people is.
|
|
|
|
Post by Batflunkie on Apr 19, 2017 19:38:41 GMT -5
You're entitled to your opinion, but I always found Vigilante a far more nuanced character than the Punisher. Vigilante was troubled by the morality of his actions, and in particular his belief in the rule of law. The Punisher just shoots people and revels in how awesome shooting people is. Don't get me wrong, there were some interesting nuances to Vigilante that kind of made Castle seem drastically outclassed by wide margin, namely that Adrian was a lawyer fighting a hopelessly uphill battle against the establishment and the mafia's control over it Castle is more like Rambo taking on the mob instead of guerrilla factions and dirty cops that wanted to make Rambo's life a living hell, not unlike Vietnam |
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 20:38:22 GMT -5
I'm a fan of the Seven Soldiers of Victory in the early days of DC Comics and I felt that this character was a complimentary piece to this group and having welcome that - I felt this character gave it an identity to play with and I grew fond of it.
Several years later, he was prominently used in the Justice League Unlimited Cartoon and I was surprised to see him there and that brought out new fans as well. There's not many Western Characters that can do the Superhero thing these days and Vigilante was one of the bright spots for DC Comics these days.
You can consider me a fan ... and always will be.
|
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 21:18:29 GMT -5
Fan of the Greg Saunders Vigilante. Read the first few issues of the Adrian Chase Vigilante. Did not capture my interest.
|
|
|
|
Post by lobsterjohnson on Apr 19, 2017 21:29:16 GMT -5
You're entitled to your opinion, but I always found Vigilante a far more nuanced character than the Punisher. Vigilante was troubled by the morality of his actions, and in particular his belief in the rule of law. The Punisher just shoots people and revels in how awesome shooting people is. The Punisher can be very shallow if he's not written well, but in Garth Ennis's Punisher MAX series Frank Castle is a very nuanced character. I've never read any comics with Vigilante in them, though, so I can't make a good comparison between the two characters. |
|
|
|
Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 19, 2017 22:14:27 GMT -5
Now, this is just my two cents and I'm trying my best to phrase this eloquently and tactfully: Vigilante and Wild Dog will always be seen as Punisher knock-offs regardless of who wrote them just to give the finger to copyright law. Same goes for Manhunter even though it's a more interesting premise compared to how utterly vanilla Vigilante is. But Manhunter feels more like predecessor to Grell's take on Green Arrow and is comparatively less interesting then the latter None of the characters mentioned are awful, they're unique in their own way and everybody deserves to have something to relate to, whether it be a role model or some character printed on newspulp And The Punisher is pretty much a direct point-by-point copy of Mac Bolan. So there you go. |
|
|
|
Post by Batflunkie on Apr 20, 2017 6:31:50 GMT -5
Now, this is just my two cents and I'm trying my best to phrase this eloquently and tactfully: Vigilante and Wild Dog will always be seen as Punisher knock-offs regardless of who wrote them just to give the finger to copyright law. Same goes for Manhunter even though it's a more interesting premise compared to how utterly vanilla Vigilante is. But Manhunter feels more like predecessor to Grell's take on Green Arrow and is comparatively less interesting then the latter None of the characters mentioned are awful, they're unique in their own way and everybody deserves to have something to relate to, whether it be a role model or some character printed on newspulp And The Punisher is pretty much a direct point-by-point copy of Mac Bolan. So there you go. I unfortunately haven't read a lot of action-adventure serial books because there's so damned many out there, but I always figured Castle a homage of Warren Murphy's The Destroyer |
|
|
|
Post by rom on Jan 17, 2018 11:08:35 GMT -5
It's been almost a year since the first DC Vigilante Trade was released, reprinting the original '80's series. It's too bad that no subsequent reprint Trades have been announced. I was cautiously optimistic that we may get the entire series & the Annuals reprinted, but I do also understand that this is a relatively obscure & old title.
When I read this first Trade a while back, I had forgotten that the "origin" for the Vigilante character involved him receiving some mystical healing powers from a mysterious group; this is revealed in one of the early issues, when he's recovering from very serious injuries. This is quite interesting, and really sets the series apart from just being a straight action comic. I also enjoy the ties to the DC universe, including the appearances by the New Teen Titans, etc.
|
|
