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Post by brutalis on Jan 5, 2017 13:07:29 GMT -5
What timing on this review!
Amazon for Pre-order : Starslayer Paperback – June 13, 2017
by Mike Grell (Author) $24.99
A Celtic warrior from the days of the Roman Empire is transported into the distant future by his wife's descendant and compelled to join the crew of the spaceship Jolly Roger in their resistance to totalitarian rule on Earth. A wildly popular classic comic appears for the first time in a collection of the "Director's Cut" of the series, originally published by Windjammer at Valiant, but also including a wealth of extras including sketches and commentary from legendary comic creator Mike Grell.
This is the first time Starslayer:Director's Cut has been collected in one volume!
Includes a wealth of extras such as sketches and commentary from creator, Mike Grell.
Featuring an all-new cover by Grell!
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Post by codystarbuck on Jan 5, 2017 13:14:55 GMT -5
Oh, what the heck; no time like the present! SKATEMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pacific made a big splash by signing up some big name talent to produce comics. Jack Kirby, Bernie Wrightson, Mike Grell and Neal Adams. Adams debuted Ms Mystic here; but, I'm more interested in Skateman. Why you ask? How about this... With dialogue like that and a roller skating vigilante, how can you go wrong? The comic tells the tale of of our hero Billy, a Vietnam vet (and a pretty cliched one) who can't seem to leave the horror behind, until he discovered Roller Derby. That's right, Roller Derby, which was pretty well dead, in 1983. When a buddy is accidentally killed in a match, after Billy hit him and a wheel popped off his skate, causing him to crash over the barrier and break his neck; Billy leaves behind the catcalls of Killer and heads on the road with girlfriend Angel. They hitchhike across the USA and come to California, where he is a useless bum and she supports him as a writer, for a small newspaper. the paper is involved in the plight of migrant workers and Angel comes home, cutup and dies in Billy's arms ('cause she went to her house instead of a hospital). Billy goes totally nuts and turns himself into a skating vigilante, going after the bikers who did the deed. At the start, he takes out a bunch of them; but, numbers catch up to him. Later, with his new girlfriend, after healing up, he gets into a bigger fight that includes skater rats and the LA River basin (as seen in Terminator 2 and Grease). You get a whole lot of scenes like this... this... and this... It's totally gonzo, with a horrible second person narration (second person rarely works well) and some god-awful coloring. If you thought Neal Adams only recently went off the rails, with his oddball theories about the Earth, you missed out on his 80s comics. They are filled with weird stories, tons of graphic violence, and some of the worst scripting you will find. This is a sample of the kind of thing you would come to see at Continuity Comic, Neal's own company, whenever he actually got an issue out (the comics always came second to his advertising work), though he had better production values (and some of the weirdest coloring in the business). Skateman is positively tame, compared to Crazyman or the Revengers. Amazingly, Neal never came back to Skateman. It couldn't have been due to low sales; this is Neal Freaking Adams! The book also has a tale, Future World, from young Andy Kubert, and another from Paul S Power (Rock Gods). The first is a post-apocalyptic world story, with dinosaurs and nuclear power plants. There isn't much to talk about, other than a guy travels in an airship to the plant, takes something from it, activates the reactor, and cause a meltdown. Nice job there, buddy! The second is goofy, wild sci-fi mayhem. Pacific was nothing, if not experimental; but, they were churning out more material than they could market and they were spending too much money up front. They fizzled out quickly, acting as a warning to other would-be independent companies. Some heeded the lesson, others did the same damn thing. We'll see some of them, down the road.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jan 5, 2017 13:19:32 GMT -5
What timing on this review! Amazon for Pre-order : Starslayer Paperback – June 13, 2017 by Mike Grell (Author) $24.99 A Celtic warrior from the days of the Roman Empire is transported into the distant future by his wife's descendant and compelled to join the crew of the spaceship Jolly Roger in their resistance to totalitarian rule on Earth. A wildly popular classic comic appears for the first time in a collection of the "Director's Cut" of the series, originally published by Windjammer at Valiant, but also including a wealth of extras including sketches and commentary from legendary comic creator Mike Grell. This is the first time Starslayer:Director's Cut has been collected in one volume! Includes a wealth of extras such as sketches and commentary from creator, Mike Grell. Featuring an all-new cover by Grell! Yeah, I just saw that, over at The Atomic Junkshop, in Flippin Through Previews. I remarked there about the timing. I hope to heck they have cleaned up the reproduction. The Director's Cut was taken from scans and it was awfully murky, in parts. The technology was still new, then, so hopefully, they have refined it for a better experience. The extras sound cool.
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Post by MDG on Jan 5, 2017 15:09:02 GMT -5
Oh, what the heck; no time like the present! SKATEMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I picked this up in a quarter bin at a Mid-Ohio show in the 90s and it provided a fortune in entertainment for my friends and me. The only excuse for this is if it was originally created as a promo for a skate company.
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Post by EdoBosnar on Jan 5, 2017 15:45:56 GMT -5
I am actually more interested in your thoughts on the less well-known stuff, not just Vanguard Illustrated, but also Alien Worlds, Bold Adventure, Pacific Presents, etc. I really loved Pacific back in the day - unlike you, I was getting their stuff as it was coming out, because I discovered my first comic book shop sometime in late 1980, just before Pacific launched. As noted, I had the whole run of Starslayer, as well as Groo and Silver Star, plus about the first 6-7 issues of Capt. Victory, the first issue of Ms. Mystic (but not, alas, the notorious Skateman) and, if I recall correctly, the first two issues of Pacific Presents and a few other random things I'd probably remember if I saw the covers. The only Pacific book I currently own, though, is Starlin's Darklon the Mystic. It's really too bad that the company tanked after only a few years, they were really putting out some cool stuff for a while there (at least, that's what I thought from about the ages of 12 through 14).
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Post by EdoBosnar on Jan 5, 2017 15:57:29 GMT -5
How weird, your Skateman post only appeared on my browser after I posted the above comment. Anyway, Skateman certainly looks like something produced by the same guy who gave us the reportedly insane Batman: Odyssey...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2017 22:22:01 GMT -5
I just started a read through of Starslayer at the end of next year, I didn't get very far before I put it aside to finish up the 40s and 50s material I had sitting unread in the to read pile, but since I only have 5 issues from the 50s left to read I am going to return to it here soon (as well as to a couple other runs I put aside to read the Golden/Atomic Age stuff).
Picked up Skateman out of a bargain bin at some point last year but haven't read it yet.
-M
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Post by codystarbuck on Jan 6, 2017 2:56:21 GMT -5
I am actually more interested in your thoughts on the less well-known stuff, not just Vanguard Illustrated, but also Alien Worlds, Bold Adventure, Pacific Presents, etc. I really loved Pacific back in the day - unlike you, I was getting their stuff as it was coming out, because I discovered my first comic book shop sometime in late 1980, just before Pacific launched. As noted, I had the whole run of Starslayer, as well as Groo and Silver Star, plus about the first 6-7 issues of Capt. Victory, the first issue of Ms. Mystic (but not, alas, the notorious Skateman) and, if I recall correctly, the first two issues of Pacific Presents and a few other random things I'd probably remember if I saw the covers. The only Pacific book I currently own, though, is Starlin's Darklon the Mystic. It's really too bad that the company tanked after only a few years, they were really putting out some cool stuff for a while there (at least, that's what I thought from about the ages of 12 through 14). My digital collection has Alien Worlds, Pacific Presents and Vanguard Illustrated; but, no Bold Adventures. I've also got Twisted Tales, Somerset Holmes, Bernie Wrightson, Master of the Macabre, Elric, Edge of Chaos,the Kirby stuff, the Corben special (where he does The Fall of the House of Usher), Silverheels, Groo, Demon Dreams, Darklon, Ravens & Rainbows, Scott Shaw's Wild Animals, ROG 2000,. Bold Adventures must have been too obscure for whoever assembled the collection. I didn't enter a comic shop until I was in college, in 1984. However, the year before that, a local bookstore started getting some comics via direct distribution, because they had the Marvel Baxter reprints, the Archie Red Circle books, the earliest First Comics (where I first discovered Jon Sable and the first 3 issues of Starslayer, when First Comics took it over), and the Nexus magazine format issues and the first issue of Badger. I grew up in Central Illinois and Capital City was out of Chicago (as was First Comics); so, my guess is they opened an account with Capital, instead of getting just newsstand distribution. No back issues though. They had a couple of Pacific issues, as I recall; but, it was more towards the end of Pacific's run. That was my first real intro to the indies, which I would delve deeper into, when I hit college. There were about 3 different comic shops in town, when I was in college; plus, the university bookstore carried some graphic novels. I slowly started poking around in the indies; but, was still mostly reading DC. 1987 was when I really started to look at Eclipse and Dark Horse, then might pick out one or two others that caught my eye. It took me a little longer to get into Comico, and Fantagraphics and Kitchen Sink were even further down the road. By the 90s, I was pulling back from the mainstream and looking more and more at the independents and alternatives. I was about the only guy at my local shop reading stuff like Cud, Negative Burn, Tales from the Bog (had my first letter printed in one of those), Action Girl, Scarlet Thunder (great little WW2 superhero series, from SLG's Amaze Ink line), Patty Cake (reviewed earlier) and Lucky Luke. I picked up the first two Pacific Presents in that first comic store, at college, for a couple of bucks or ess. I got them on the strength of seeing the Rocketeer on the cover. Soon after, I found the Eclipse Graphic Album collection of the whole story, with the added pages and Harlan Ellison intro. The ironic thing was just prior to that, on my midshipman summer training cruise, I was flipping through a photography magazine, in the wardroom, and came across an article on bunny Yeager, which talked about Bettie Page. When I got back to school, I saw the Rocketeer album and picked it up, saw the photo of Bettie, in the intro and snapped it up. I need to do some reading; but, I'll look at what I have of those and post reviews. I also want to hit some of Eclipse's titles and First Comics, as well as some more Comico and Innovation; plus, early Dark Horse and some Caliber. I've also been jonesin' to look at Vietnam Journal, from Don Lomax, and Wayne Vansant's Battle Group Peiper. I'd also like to hit some of the self-publishing crowd, like Hepcats, A Distant Soil, Strangers in Paradise and a few others. Maybe some European stuff and some manga (mostly the early stuff, from Eclipse and First).
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Post by EdoBosnar on Jan 6, 2017 4:29:40 GMT -5
Yeah, the 1980s really was a good time for the indies, wasn't it? Unfortunately, I missed out on most of it - my first big love affair with comics ended sometime in 1984 or so, and for the rest of the decade I would occasionally get back into comics reading for a few months, and then drop out again (usually because of other stuff going on in my life). I especially regret missing out on stuff like Jon Sable, American Flagg, etc. (although I've had the 2 tpbs collecting Chaykin's initial run on Flagg sitting around for a good 3 years now, waiting to be read...)
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Post by mikelmidnight on Jan 6, 2017 12:41:39 GMT -5
You need to read those American Flagg! issues now ... they are the best thing Chaykin has ever done and some of my favorite comics ever.
I loved the First and Eclipse lines, but for some reason Pacific never spoke to me ... it all looked like splashy art and not much story. The only issues I ever bought were the ones with the Rocketeer.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jan 7, 2017 8:37:54 GMT -5
You need to read those American Flagg! issues now ... they are the best thing Chaykin has ever done and some of my favorite comics ever. I loved the First and Eclipse lines, but for some reason Pacific never spoke to me ... it all looked like splashy art and not much story. The only issues I ever bought were the ones with the Rocketeer. Just skimming through my collection, Pacific is kind of all over the place. Bruce Jones was doing a lot of Warren-style material, in Alien Worlds and Twisted Tales. Neal Adams had Ms Mystic, which is slightly less nuts than Skateman; but, wasn't anything that the masses flocked to; there's some fantasy, from Gray Morrow, a bit of sci-fi and horror, and the Kirby stuff. It's like a mixture of Warren, the Undergrounds, Marvel, and EC-lite. Eclipse has a bit of a similar vibe, especially since they picked up several series, after Pacific went under. First seemed a bit more original, when it launched; same with Dark Horse. Comico was bright and loud, with diverse material.
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Post by MDG on Jan 7, 2017 10:18:21 GMT -5
I get the feeling Pacific was picking up "inventory" from name creators like Morrow and Adams. I never bought too much from them, though I bought a lot of Eclipse titles (admittedly, much of it were 50s reprint titles).
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Post by codystarbuck on Jan 7, 2017 11:00:54 GMT -5
I get the feeling Pacific was picking up "inventory" from name creators like Morrow and Adams. I never bought too much from them, though I bought a lot of Eclipse titles (admittedly, much of it were 50s reprint titles). Probably a lot of truth in that. Warren went under around that time and there are a lot of Warren guys at Pacific: Bill Dubay, Bruce Jones, Gray Morrow and Bernie Wrightson. Wouldn't be surprised if they had stories intended for Warren. Starslayer had been meant for DC. Ditko's Missing Man may have been lying around. You then got the younger guys, like Baron and Rude (in Vanguard Illustrated), Dave Stevens, and Michael T Gilbert and William Messner-Loebs (with the debut of Mr Monster).
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Post by MDG on Jan 7, 2017 16:38:21 GMT -5
I get the feeling Pacific was picking up "inventory" from name creators like Morrow and Adams. I never bought too much from them, though I bought a lot of Eclipse titles (admittedly, much of it were 50s reprint titles). Probably a lot of truth in that. Warren went under around that time and there are a lot of Warren guys at Pacific: Bill Dubay, Bruce Jones, Gray Morrow and Bernie Wrightson. Wouldn't be surprised if they had stories intended for Warren. Starslayer had been meant for DC. Ditko's Missing Man may have been lying around. You then got the younger guys, like Baron and Rude (in Vanguard Illustrated), Dave Stevens, and Michael T Gilbert and William Messner-Loebs (with the debut of Mr Monster). I was thinking more of Adams, who'd been teasing Continuity titles since the 70s, and Morrow, who'd had a couple of stories with the characters from Edge of Chaos in fanzines.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jan 9, 2017 0:33:44 GMT -5
Some more from Pacific... Well, this is more weirdness from Neal Adams, though not as Gonzo as Skateman. A group of scientists and technicians are travelling around in a super-winnebago (Neal either watched way too much Ark II or Damnation Alley; not sure which) and are investigating pollution so bad birds fall from the sky and deer upchuck (as graphically depicted by Neal). They try to talk to whoever is running a manufacturing plant in the middle of nowhere and get zapped for their trouble. They zap back and somehow release a woman from another dimensional plane, who bashes the baddies for them. Turns out she is a 300 year old witch, who when she was being burnt at the stake transported to this other dimension. The battle continues into the second issue, where members of the team are transformed, gaining elemental powers (they would go on to be Urth 4, at Continuity). It's really long-winded and I get bored about 7 pages in and just start skimming. That has pretty much been my experience every time I tried to read something from Continuity. Neal is a heck of an artist; but, he isn't much of a writer. he tries for an ecological slant to things; but, there isn't enough reality for it to have much impact. It's to such an extreme it makes the Captain Planet cartoons look like a National Geographic special. Visually, there's a lot to capture your eye; but, it doesn't seem to have a lot of story behind it. At least, not one that sucks me in. It's definitely the template for what Continuity Comics would be. One other thing; that first issue cover looks like Ms Mystic is, er-um, lending a "hand" to the Earth, if you get my drift. What can I say about Elric? Roy Thomas was in his element, with this character, aided by the perfect art team of P Craig Russell and Michael T. Gilbert. Thomas and Russell had previously adapted The Dreaming City, for Marvel's graphic novel line (their second one) and they did a similar treatment here. At first, I was a bit thrown off, as I started reading Elric in high school, from the DAW editions, with Michael Whelan covers. Whelan gave Elric more Conan-esque proportions and seeing the rail-thin and somewhat angular depiction of Russell was somewhat jarring. It was a while before I read Elric of Melnibone, and saw how sickly the character was and realized how faithful the comics team was being. Roy was quite adept at adapting the stories and Russell excelled at the madness, violence, beauty and despair, as well as the action. Gilbert lent a nice touch to Russell's already stellar work. There had been previous Elric adaptations (in Star*Reach); but, this would set the tone for what would follow, as the adaptations moved to First Comics (who also adapted Corum and Hawkmoon). If you enjoy fantasy, you really need to search for these adaptations. I particularly recommend getting your hands on the First Comics graphic novel editions, which collected each mini-series. They are pricy; but, if you come across one for a decent price, grab it! For those who have never read Moorcock, or heard about Elric, he is the emperor of a dying, though once powerful race of sorcerers and warriors, on the island nation of Melnibone. he is a sickly albino, who needs special potions to survive. He is opposed by his mad cousin Yrkoon, who is in love with his own sister, who is in love with Elric (and vice versa). It was Moorcock's answer to the barbarian fantasy genre, and the likes of Conan and his imitators. Where they were fierce and brawny, he was sickly and cultured. Elric is also one aspect of Moorcock's Eternal Champion, a figure who lives at various points of time and reality, who acts as an agent for the balance between Law and Chaos. Thomas handles the high fantasy well and Moorcock's material had more dramatic meat than the average Conan (though Howard had tons of atmosphere in his stories) and it gave Thomas more to work with. Elric was perfect for Russell, who was known for his thinner and prettier male characters, with his fine art influences and love of opera stories (and, as he remarked in the Comics Journal, it's probably related to his being gay). The closest Russell came to another character so perfect for him was Neil Gaiman's Morpheus. Russell was heavily involved in the plotting at most points, until he split with Thomas and the series, over creative differences. However, they were still in sync, here. Edge of Chaos was a fantasy mini-series from Gray Morrow, featuring an Earth man, Eric Cleese (say it quickly, several times), who is brought to another world, Aviana, by the rules Zaeus (not the orangutan) to be its new champion. if this sounds familiar it's because Morrow was using elements of Greek mythology, to tell a modern story (before Rick Riordan and his Percy Jackson series). It's rather tongue in cheek and a lot of fun, with Morrow's beautiful, illustrative comic style. he did similar work in his orion series of stories, going back to Wally Wood's Witzend pro-zine, and Heavy Metal, as well as his Amora (done for Playboy, which was later reprinted by Fantagraphics, in their Eros line). The first issue includes a back-up tale from Don Lomax, "The Redeeming Strain," about a scientific experiment that is altered by the scientist, pitting two "cultures" against each other. it has a nice "underground" sensibility, with a more classic sci-fi bent to it. it would have been at home in either Metal Hurlant or Heavy Metal. Issues two and three have a couple of more traditional fantasy stories, with muscular warriors. Meanwhile, Morrow has fun with his mythical and human characters. Morrow was also a fan of the female form and shows a lot of it, mostly undressed or partially dressed. So, this isn't one to share with the youngsters (until their ready). Silverheels is a sci-fi/fantasy series from bruce Jones and Scott Hampton. This is early work from Hampton and his art isn't as fully developed as on The Upturned Stone; but, it's damn good. the story tells the tale of "'Pache" tribesman Silverheels, who has special abilities that make him an outsider in his own tribe. His world is run, in part, by the Nazites, who rate the Paches as sub-human. Sound familiar? The Nazites went to space; but, found themselves beat back by aliens. Now, several Earthmen have a chance to become intergalactic Lawkeepers, including Silverheels. Unfortunately, the series went unfinished, though it was later collected by Eclipse (I haven't seen that version; so, I don't know if it got the ending it was supposed to or is just a straight reprint). There's some interesting stuff here. the allegory of the Nazis and Apaches isn't fully developed, other than to pit Silverheels against an Aryan rival, in his Lawkeeper training. There is also a great back-up series, featuring a robot character, created and drawn by Ken Steacy. Steacy has a great cartoony style, mixed with his love of airplanes and toys, as well as a glimpse or two of his awesome airbrush work. Steacy only dabbled in comics, which is a shame, as his work was always interesting. You can see it in a grander scale in The Sacred and the Profane, with Dean Motter (Star*Reach, Epic Illustrated, and the Eclipse graphic novel version), and Tempus Fugitive, published at DC and later reprinted by Dark Horse. Darklon the Mystic was a one-shot, reprinting earlier stories, published at Warren. It features a dark sorcerer, who was beheaded and had an eye plucked out, then restored to life and who fought other nasty individuals. It's all very dark, very cosmic, very amoral, and very Starlin. The character would later turn up in Starlin's Breed, as did some of his other characters, like Vanth Dreadstar. Skimming through it, it reads much like an early musing on what would become The Metamorphosis Odyssey and Dreadstar, though this is more fantasy, while that is more space opera (emphasis on opera). This was Starlin when he was cooking with cosmic gas, as seen in Warlock and Captain Marvel, without the superhero trappings. At also ties in, stylistically, with the story he did in the first issue of Star*Reach. The Corben Special: Edgar Allen Poe, features Corben's take on The Fall of the House of Usher. Corben and Poe make a great fit. It's Corben, so there are boobs and gore and tons of atmosphere. Ravens and Rainbows featured reprints of some earlier Jeff Jones work, including art from a limited edition portfolio. most of the pieces are more visual exercises, rather than full on stories. They are very much of that underground/Warren mix and are filled with great visuals. The female form is on great display here, which would originally have been taken as a sign of an artist who likes drawing naked women (no shortage of those). however, as later came to light, Jeff Jones dealt with gender identity issues throughout his life, which manifested itself in alcoholism and other psychological issues. In 1998, Jones began hormone replacement therapy and transitioned to Jeffrey catherine Jones, as she called herself. A nervous breakdown in 2001 lost her her home and studio, though she recovered. Her health, though, deteriorated over time and she passed away in 2011. A tremendous artist who did not have an easy life. Rog 2000 was a reprint of all of the Rog 2000 stories, from Contemporary Pictorial Literature (CPL), a Charlton fanzine and Charlton Comics. The CPL Gang, as they were known, included Roger Sterne, John Byrne, Bob Layton, Roger Slifer, Larry Brnicki, and Duffy Voland. These folks would eventually get material published at Charlton, leading to their Rog 200 stories, featuring Nicola Cuti (co-creator of E-Man) writing and John Byrne drawing. these are a lot of fun and I highly recommend them. They are filled with humor, slapstick and satire and are a great read. This is Byrne, before the ego went nova. Wild Animals features "funny animal" stories, from Scott Shaw! and associates (including Sergio Aragones). It's got a definite Underground feel and mixes silliness with social satire. At least some of the stories were reprints from elsewhere. Star*Reach had tried something similar, with Quack. That 70s generation of creators had grown up with Carl Barks stories, Looney Tunes, and other funny animal comics and kept trying to bring some of that back, with the same kind of sophistication; but less censorship, that were seen in the Looney Tune cartoons and similar fare. It seemed time had passed that material by; but, they gave it the old college try. Worth a look, if you like a bit of humor or stuff like Mad. I'll take a closer look at some of Pacific's bigger books soon, looking at Bruce Jones mini-empire (Alien Worlds and Twisted Tales), the mystery of Somerset Holmes, some guy with a rocket pack, and a few other Pacific odds and ends (such as early Steve Rude).
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