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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Aug 12, 2014 12:58:37 GMT -5
I agree 100% shaxper. When I got into comics circa 2005, I spent hours pouring over Wikipedia and other online resources wanting the learn the histories of these characters. In fact, that was half the fun of the hobby for me. Now I just don't feel like I have anything to get invested in with the new DCU. Maybe it's for the best and time I move on and let someone else to play in my comic sandbox I don't say this to be counter productive of the discussion, plus it's kind of off topic ... but for those of us when there was no internet, and some of us who hadn't friend who read comics, and for those guys even before my time of collecting, who didn't even have comic book shops, the only way to learn the legacy of a character was to find and buy more comics. For me, that's one of the reasons that continuity has wore on me. Not so much it itself, but the effort needed to be on the same page as everyone else who HAD actually bought a series from the beginning off the shelf. And depending on writers or the character so comics are written as if the past knowledge of character is known first hand by everyone. I do remember at least in the 80's and 90's most books having footnotes of the issues that they were referencing, so if a reader wanted to know that reference they could find it. But still one had to find the book. |
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Post by shaxper on Aug 12, 2014 13:01:58 GMT -5
I agree 100% shaxper. When I got into comics circa 2005, I spent hours pouring over Wikipedia and other online resources wanting the learn the histories of these characters. In fact, that was half the fun of the hobby for me. Now I just don't feel like I have anything to get invested in with the new DCU. Maybe it's for the best and time I move on and let someone else to play in my comic sandbox I allowed the nu52 to be my dropping off point, not because I had any particular grievances over the particulars of the reboot, but rather because I spent most of my life in one universe and didn't feel any particular need to start over with another. It brought DC better sales than it had seen in a decade, and that's great, but the market they were targeting wasn't me. They dumped the sand out of my sandbox in order to make something new for someone else. Time to move on. |
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Post by shaxper on Aug 12, 2014 13:03:45 GMT -5
I agree 100% shaxper. When I got into comics circa 2005, I spent hours pouring over Wikipedia and other online resources wanting the learn the histories of these characters. In fact, that was half the fun of the hobby for me. Now I just don't feel like I have anything to get invested in with the new DCU. Maybe it's for the best and time I move on and let someone else to play in my comic sandbox I don't say this to be counter productive of the discussion, plus it's kind of off topic ... but for those of us when there was no internet, and some of us who hadn't friend who read comics, and for those guys even before my time of collecting, who didn't even have comic book shops, the only way to learn the legacy of a character was to find and buy more comics. For me, that's one of the reasons that continuity has wore on me. Not so much it itself, but the effort needed to be on the same page as everyone else who HAD actually bought a series from the beginning off the shelf. And depending on writers or the character so comics are written as if the past knowledge of character is known first hand by everyone. I do remember at least in the 80's and 90's most books having footnotes of the issues that they were referencing, so if a reader wanted to know that reference they could find it. But still one had to find the book. I liked the compulsion to buy more old comics and unearth more history, personally. Now, there's very little reason for a reader of the new stuff to get into collecting the old. |
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Aug 12, 2014 13:22:52 GMT -5
I don't say this to be counter productive of the discussion, plus it's kind of off topic ... but for those of us when there was no internet, and some of us who hadn't friend who read comics, and for those guys even before my time of collecting, who didn't even have comic book shops, the only way to learn the legacy of a character was to find and buy more comics. For me, that's one of the reasons that continuity has wore on me. Not so much it itself, but the effort needed to be on the same page as everyone else who HAD actually bought a series from the beginning off the shelf. And depending on writers or the character so comics are written as if the past knowledge of character is known first hand by everyone. I do remember at least in the 80's and 90's most books having footnotes of the issues that they were referencing, so if a reader wanted to know that reference they could find it. But still one had to find the book. I liked the compulsion to buy more old comics and unearth more history, personally. Now, there's very little reason for a reader of the new stuff to get into collecting the old. And maybe that's what this is all about for me. That mentality for whatever reason has left me. I would enjoy the convenience of stopping by a store once a month to pick up and issue or two, or a TPB and read a story that has a beginning and an end. A book or two that I could spend $10 a month and realistically get the whole story by buying one Batman book and one Spiderman book. |
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Post by shaxper on Aug 12, 2014 13:30:52 GMT -5
I liked the compulsion to buy more old comics and unearth more history, personally. Now, there's very little reason for a reader of the new stuff to get into collecting the old. And maybe that's what this is all about for me. That mentality for whatever reason has left me. I would enjoy the convenience of stopping by a store once a month to pick up and issue or two, or a TPB and read a story that has a beginning and an end. A book or two that I could spend $10 a month and realistically get the whole story by buying one Batman book and one Spiderman book. Good point. Ideally, I think both options should be present. I used to argue that the Big Two should both offer two distinct lines of superhero comics: 1) A legacy line that presents the most iconic versions of favorite characters ala Legends of the Dark Knight, absent of continuity and change. 2) A continuity-driven shared universe where each story matters and growth/change is expected in characters and team line-ups. I felt like DC began moving towards that a decade back with their All-Star and Confidential imprints, but neither got far off the ground for some reason, even with strong sales. |
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