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Post by Roquefort Raider on Dec 18, 2016 21:27:22 GMT -5
9. GrendizerWhen I was a kid, I had the great good fortune to be introduced to anime through a couple of classic shows. First was G-Force, aka Battle of the Planets, but more important was the back-to-back awesomeness of StarBlazers and Force Five. Force Five was actually an anthology of five different shows, one which aired on each day of the week. Mondays was Danguard Ace, Tuesdays was Starvengers, Wednesdays was Spaceketeers, Thursday was Grendizer, and Friday was Gai King. To be honest, Grendizer was probably only my second favorite, as I really liked Spaceketeers. But that was an original property, while Grendizer was adapted to the screen by manga creator Go Nagai. As such, it kind of stands in for me for all of the great anime that influenced my childhood and countless creators in comics and cartoons since. Really? I had no idea it was a manga first!!! So cool!
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 18, 2016 21:31:44 GMT -5
No Don Blake secret Identity in this film, (...) Wellllllll... almost! Thank goodness. Don Blake has always been horrible.
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Post by Cei-U! on Dec 18, 2016 21:38:37 GMT -5
Wellllllll... almost! Thank goodness. Don Blake has always been horrible. Yup. One of the biggest reasons I prefer Simonson's Thor over Lee and Kirby's is his eliminating Don Blake. Cei-U! I summon the much-needed exorcism!
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Dec 19, 2016 7:25:30 GMT -5
Wellllllll... almost! Thank goodness. Don Blake has always been horrible. I was very disappointed when J.M. Straczynski not only brought Blake back as Thor's alter ego, but also found a way to give him a new lame leg. As the song says, "forget about the future, let's get on with the past".
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Dec 19, 2016 20:33:36 GMT -5
9. Teen Titans Season 1 (2003) It's rare to find a tv show/movie that I like better than the source material, but... In theory I love the '80s Teen Titans. I enjoyed the heck out of TwoMorrows Titans Companion and thought that Wolfman and Perez' approach to the Team was fascinating. (Each character is a specific character type that is designed to play off the other team members, and each is a vehicle to involve the team in different types of stories: Robin for detective stories, Raven for supernatural horror, Wonder Girl for mythological, Changeling for comedy et al.) But I've been reading the recent trades as they come through the libraries and they are.. well, they're just sooooooo serious. I LOVE superheroes but I also think the whole concept is kinda ludicrous, and I like 'em best when they're peppered with Stan Lee inspired postmodern writer-as-a-character-outside-the-narrative adult autorial distance or a Jack Cole style sense of the absurd, or 'jes plane goofiness ala Keith Giffen or Erica Henderson style goofiness. The Wolfman Perez Titans were very much a product of a time when superhero comics were becoming more and more singe-layered and self-serious - and that's just not interesting to me. But a version of the same characters with a sense of the absurd, which can still tell surprisingly dark stories but maintain a sense of F-U-N throughout? Sign me right the hell up! (And while I'm sure the other seasons are good, I've only ever watched the first one. I'll get to the other ones someday.)
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Post by Pól Rua on Dec 20, 2016 1:02:14 GMT -5
9. SupergirlIt's not that this show is entertaining, it certainly is that. It's not just that it's fun, because it's that too. And it's not like it's a helluva superhero/sci fi action series, because yup, that too... but that it manages that juggling act so damn well. And makes it look so freaking effortless. Of all of DC Comics recent forays into live action tv series of late, this was the one I expected to like least, but it just charmed the hell out of me straight out of the gate. It's light-hearted and fun, but there's enough substance there from the cast and script to stop it just being all froth. There are some genuine dramatic moments and story arcs, but it refuses to wallow in drama for its own sake. The show walks a tightrope. Too far one way and it's a soapy morass, too far the other and it's trying to combine a sort of turgid joylessness with people in bright coloured tights and superpowers... and the thing about this series is it walks that tightrope like there's no chance it could possibly misstep.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 20, 2016 17:54:08 GMT -5
Random thoughts on Day Four...
I've only seen The Rocketeer a couple of times. I probably should remedy that, as I love the comic. My guess is this would be higher on my list if I had seen it a few more times and more recently.
I know I watched The Archies cartoon now and then when I was a kid, but I really have zero memory of it.
I've not seen Batman: Under the Red Hood. I likely won't as I just despise that Jason Todd returned.
If I've seen A Wish for Wings That Work it's been many many moons. I just don't know.
I dissed 300 earlier. Now I can diss Superman Returns. I'll be the first to admit I hate Superman. The thing is...I can't say this movie was bad...it had an even worse problem. It was incredibly boring. Like watching grass grow boring. So boring that my boys and I turned it off about half way through and when I asked if they wanted to finish it later, they said "No. Just send it back and get something good."
A History of Violence was one of the last things to drop off my list. I love both the movie and the graphic novel. Great stuff all around.
Batman starring Adam West will show up again.
I watched the first couple of seasons of The Walking Dead. I liked them okay, but I guess I got burned out, because I never went back. It may be that I have issues with the zombie genre and have a hard time not over-thinking zombie shows.
I haven't seen Big Hero 6, The New Adventures of Superman, Batman Beyond Return of the Joker, or Grendizer.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 20:31:37 GMT -5
Random thoughts on Day Four... I dissed 300 earlier. Now I can diss Superman Returns. I'll be the first to admit I hate Superman. The thing is...I can't say this movie was bad...it had an even worse problem. It was incredibly boring. Like watching grass grow boring. So boring that my boys and I turned it off about half way through and when I asked if they wanted to finish it later, they said "No. Just send it back and get something good." I've tried to watch this movie 5 times. I've never seen the end. I've fallen asleep less than an hour into it every time, including in the theatre when I paid to see it the first time. I could be hyped up on a caffeine overdose (and I was the first time having gone to see it at the theatre during an Origins convention in Columbus after consuming vast quantities of caffeine all day with a bunch of rowdy gamer friends who then gave me all kinds of hell for falling asleep) and I still nod off after about a half hour of this movie. I gave up on trying to watch it after the last time. The thing is, I am a big Singer fan too, but this, this is just about the least compelling thing he has ever done in my estimation. Kudos to those of you who made it through and liked it, but I'm not inclined to give this one another try. -M
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Post by MDG on Dec 21, 2016 9:08:43 GMT -5
Random thoughts on Day Four... I dissed 300 earlier. Now I can diss Superman Returns. I'll be the first to admit I hate Superman. The thing is...I can't say this movie was bad...it had an even worse problem. It was incredibly boring. Like watching grass grow boring. So boring that my boys and I turned it off about half way through and when I asked if they wanted to finish it later, they said "No. Just send it back and get something good." I've tried to watch this movie 5 times. I've never seen the end. I've fallen asleep less than an hour into it every time, including in the theatre when I paid to see it the first time. I could be hyped up on a caffeine overdose (and I was the first time having gone to see it at the theatre during an Origins convention in Columbus after consuming vast quantities of caffeine all day with a bunch of rowdy gamer friends who then gave me all kinds of hell for falling asleep) and I still nod off after about a half hour of this movie. I gave up on trying to watch it after the last time. The thing is, I am a big Singer fan too, but this, this is just about the least compelling thing he has ever done in my estimation. Kudos to those of you who made it through and liked it, but I'm not inclined to give this one another try. -M Here's what bugged me about Superman Returns: Superman was supposed to have been gone for five years; he was probably around two years before that; Lois looked about 25 at the oldest; she was at the Planet at least a couple years before Clark showed up; her son was 6 if not older. I couldn't focus on the story because I couldn't come up with a timeline that would reconcile all these time descrepincies, even if Lois was 17 when she started working at the Planet.
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Post by coke & comics on Dec 21, 2016 11:57:50 GMT -5
I've tried to watch this movie 5 times. I've never seen the end. I've fallen asleep less than an hour into it every time, including in the theatre when I paid to see it the first time. I could be hyped up on a caffeine overdose (and I was the first time having gone to see it at the theatre during an Origins convention in Columbus after consuming vast quantities of caffeine all day with a bunch of rowdy gamer friends who then gave me all kinds of hell for falling asleep) and I still nod off after about a half hour of this movie. I gave up on trying to watch it after the last time. The thing is, I am a big Singer fan too, but this, this is just about the least compelling thing he has ever done in my estimation. Kudos to those of you who made it through and liked it, but I'm not inclined to give this one another try. -M Here's what bugged me about Superman Returns: Superman was supposed to have been gone for five years; he was probably around two years before that; Lois looked about 25 at the oldest; she was at the Planet at least a couple years before Clark showed up; her son was 6 if not older. I couldn't focus on the story because I couldn't come up with a timeline that would reconcile all these time descrepincies, even if Lois was 17 when she started working at the Planet. The actress was 23 at the time. But perhaps she was playing a 36-year old.
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Post by Pól Rua on Dec 23, 2016 6:57:15 GMT -5
#9- A HISTORY OF VIOLENCEIn college, I was buying tons of DC and Vertigo books with great fervor. When Paradox Press came out, or spun from the ashes of Piranha Press and the Big Book Of series came out, I was hooked an fantastical reads of random knowledge. Seeing that A History of Violence came out with Road to Perdition, I picked them both up. John Wagner's script of a small town restaurant owner who becomes a local hero attracts New York mafia might seem cliche but the pacing is so enthralling. Vince Locke, who I knew from Deadworld, supplied the artwork. Sleek and bleak at the same time, the violence drawn exploded off the page. In 2005, director David Cronenberg took helm of the camera and created a brutal masterpiece. Viggo Mortensen as Tom McKenna (Tom Stall in the film)l and the ever brilliant Ed Harris as John Torrino (Carl Fogarty in the film) were perfect foils for each other. William Hurt and Maria Bello in a stellar, mysterious crime action film. I'm a big Cronenberg fan, so seeing him direct this and make it compelling garnered rave reviews. Two years later Mortensen would re-team with his director to give one of the best gangster films in the last 20 years. There's an incredible Hong Kong film from 2011 which is loosely based on this as well. It was called 'Wu Xia' here and 'Dragon' in the US. I DEFINITELY recommend tracking it down if you can.
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Post by MWGallaher on Dec 23, 2016 8:37:08 GMT -5
#9: Marvel Super-Heroes (Grantray-Lawrence Animation, 1966)------Perhaps one reason I adore this is because I almost never got to see it when it was running. In Memphis, it aired on a daily cartoon show ("The Happy Hal Show") twice daily, but the Marvel Super-Heroes segments always seemed to air after I left for school or before I got home. I saw plenty of commercials, and occasionally caught an episode, and at my age (6 or 7), the "animation"--as I suppose most of us are aware, the cartoons used actual published Marvel Comics for both the stories and the artwork, barely animated via zooms, pans, and occasional moving parts--looked fine to me. These were my first exposures to these Marvel Superheroes, never having paid attention to the comic book rack (I probably wasn't allowed to even wander off over there during trips to the store, I suppose). Remembering my response to these cartoons helps me to remember the specific triggers that excited me about superheroes, triggers that were forgotten as I saw more and more of the genre. I watched Captain America to see when he "throws his mighty shield". That one bit made the entire cartoon worthwhile for me. That was part of Kirby's genius, coming up with dynamic gimmicks that a reader--or in this case, viewer--could *feel* himself doing, imagining just how satisfying it would feel to sling that thing, knock out the bad guys, and have it swoosh back into your hands! What I loved most in Thor was seeing him transform. Again, I could imagine and *feel* striking that cane against the ground, with a burst of thunder transforming me into a powerful hero! The Hulk really fascinated me. Again, the transformations were intriguing, especially in the adaptations of the Ditko issues, when Bruce would intentionally turn into the Hulk with a gamma ray projector. But I liked the off-beat weirdness, this surly monster hero who meant well but was constantly hounded. Iron Man turned me off a little, because as a tyke, I didn't like mustaches, but I did like the concept of the armor, and flying on jets was cool. I was always disappointed when a rare chance to see an episode turned out to be a "Sub-Mariner day". I couldn't imagine why anyone would want to watch this jerk swimming around in ordinary swim trunks. This colored my opinion years later, when I began to read the comics themselves, and it took a while before I really became attached to Namor. Now he's one of my favorites at Marvel, but I'm still not especially fond of the Gene Colan-drawn stories that these were adapted from. Today, I find these episodes to still have a very strong appeal. When I chance across one on youtube, I end up watching several. They covered a lot of classic Marvel territory, and would have gotten many a viewer caught up and prepared to jump into the comics. That move was still 5 or 6 years away for me, but these helped plant that seed.
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Post by coke & comics on Dec 25, 2016 21:36:33 GMT -5
Fourth Day
A History of Violence was my #7 pick.
*Considered for my own list: Rocketeer (Just rewatched this last month; a truly great film, and in its day there were not many better superhero films) Walking Dead
I have complicated feelings about Thor. There is a lot I love and a lot that annoys me about the film. I like all the actors, especially Tom Hiddleston. But a couple things just bugged me. The compressed timeline we mentioned earlier in the thread. And I wasn't impressed by Asgard. It seemed like they only had a couple sets, so the film only ever showed the palace and the Rainbow Bridge. I much prefer Thor: Dark World, which (like many superhero sequels) kept what I loved and fixed what I didn't.
I quite liked Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker. I really need to sit down and watch through Batman Beyond.
Batman (1966) is something I appreciate more than love. I watched it as a child. And I appreciate it as an early great superhero film and TV series. But hold no affection for it.
*Things I'm not particularly fond of: Fantastic Four (1967) (Haven't watched since childhood and don't recall well, but don't recall fondly) Batman: Under the Red Hood (Generally not a fan of a lot of these DC animated films, which all seem too violent, and often have weirdly unnecessary foul language. Did not like the Red Hood story from the comics, or anything I've ever read by Winick, who strikes me as a hack of the worst kind. The film did nothing to improve my impression of the story. But it was an okay film.) Superman Returns (I rate this film pretty poorly for its mischaracterization of Superman, and spending too much time being an homage instead of a movie. I think Kevin Spacey could have been a great Lex Luthor. We'll never know because he played Gene Hackman instead. He did that well, but I don't care. The positive is some beautifully shot moments. Changing in an elevator shaft. Rising above the clouds to be healed from the sun. It's a beautiful film with a dumb story. It was a shame because I loved Singer's X-Men and was looking forward to this.)
I recall nothing of New Adventures of Superman. I assume I saw some as a child.
*Haven't seen: Archie Show Bloom County Christmas Duckman Flash Gordon's Trip to Mars (trying hard to catch up on science fiction, particularly serials; this is on my list) Grendizer
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