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Post by Hoosier X on Jan 18, 2017 17:44:49 GMT -5
Couple more things about the Mad Hatter ...My favorite story involving the Mad Hatter can be found in Detective Comics #230 of which I find it very well written, good sequence of action, and the part of the Mad Hatter to remove Batman's Cowl and it's rings very similar to the one of the shows that Adam West starred as Batman. Detective Comics #230 Full Story of Detective Comics #230I read it two days ago and I thoroughly enjoyed reading it and I find this web site one of the best Batman's Site available in the Web. I only know this version of the Mad Hatter and the version found in Batman, The Animated Series. He's one of the most unique characters ever created and I figure that they created this character to give the readers another version of the Penguin with a twist and a play on words. He is crafty, diabolical, cunny, full of unpredictablitity, and has a flair of capturing some of the Alice in Wonderland in a grandiose style of his very own that I captured watching the cartoon version on Batman, The Animated Series. David Wayne as the Mad Hatter  One of my favorites villains on Adam West's Batman Show in the mid 60's and he did a great job portraying him and I wished they incorporate some of the Alice in Wonderland into that show and made it unique and more entertaining and that dreaded hat of that concealed a set of eyes that would pop up and shoot a hypnotic beam at his enemy rendering him/her useless. I was disappointed that they did not used him in the 3rd Season of Batman and that's one of many reasons the show is on it's last legs. He was superb in every way and I find his costume nothing but perfection. I love that story in Detective #230. I saw it fairly recently in one of those all-reprint comics from the 1960s. (I think it was a Batman Annual.) Its great! I've read it twice in the last two or three months and I want to read it again! The Mad Hatter has such a confusing history that eventually - some time in the last decade, I think - the two wildly diverging versions of the character have been treated as two separate characters. I'm not sure how detailed this was. I just saw some dialogue where, if I'm remembering correctly, one Mad Hatter was claiming he had killed the other one. (Or maybe he just said he wanted to kill him.) And to further confuse matters, the Mad Hatter on the Villain Jury in the "Where Were You the Night Batman Was Killed?" is an odd amalgam of the two differing versions. His face is drawn like Jarvis Tetch with the orange hair and the moustache, but he is very short and dressed like he came from "Alice in Wonderland" and is serving tea, like the old-old-style Mad Hatter from the 1940s. |
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Post by Hoosier X on Jan 18, 2017 17:51:35 GMT -5
Dear Everyone,I'm going to take a break from this thread for a couple of weeks or more and re-think what I'm doing wrong and i'm not very happy with it and not getting any love from anyone here in the past two weeks. I'm somewhat depressed about this thread and decided to hold off for awhile and sorry that I won't be able to do the next villain on my list. I hope you change your mind soon because I think this is a fun thread. I'm sorry I was busy for a few days and didn't comment. I had planned to make fun of Blockbuster - I'm not a fan - but I got sidetracked and forgot. And as for Anarky - I dislike him even more than Blockbuster and I just have zero to say. Blockbuster is fun to make fun of, at least. And I got Detective #348 a few months ago but I never got around to saying anything about on CCF. I'll read Det' #348 soon and leave some comments here. My god, Blockbuster. Those sandals and that hay bag he wears as a shirt. His toes freak me out a little. I bet his callouses are horrifying. Although now I think about it, he was good in his SSOSV appearances. |
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jan 18, 2017 19:27:42 GMT -5
@mechagodzilla As regards Mad Hatter I really like The Animated Series version of him. And the Alice in Wonderland mash up with his character. And the actor that does his voice just seems so fitting though I don't think I've heard the Mad Hatter from the Adam West series. Or I don't remember. As far as comics I think I have a few appearances of him, most notable his involvement in Knightfall. But other than that modern age Mad Hatter in comics didn't click with me so I never really sought any out.
I think The Animated Series episode called Perchance to Dream is one of my favorites of the series.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2017 17:42:51 GMT -5
Last Ten Villains
31 Mad Hatter
32 Owlman
33 Anarky
34 Blockbuster
35 Harley Quinn
36 KGBeast
37 King Tut
38 Cypher
39 Monk
40 Dala
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2017 18:02:51 GMT -5
Dear Everyone
I run two clubs, Water Polo, and other things during the week and having said that among other things like promising all of you doing both Superman and Spider-Man Villains and having said all that ...
I will start up Number 30 possibly in the next 3-5 days depending how soon I can get it ready. Now, February is approaching and my Water Polo Activity is heating up and along with my two clubs that I run - I figure that I can do 5 Villains a month for a grand total of 15 Villains and that's half of the remaining villains that I got rest to do.
Here's the good news ... I will try my best to do 1 villain on every Saturday and Sunday meaning that I have to do an introductory post on Friday that's can take about a half hour to prepare for and that's an easy thing to do. Barring this good news I could get this thread finished sometimes by end of May and take the Summer off and start up the Superman Villain thread sometimes in September and make this activity to run from September to February the only time that I can do it. So, I should have this thread done by May the earliest and by end of May at the latest.
In Short - this thread down by May and the Superman Thread starts up in September of 2017 and ends in February 2018 ... The Spiderman thread starts in September 2018 and ends in February 2019.
This way, I don't rush into things and take my time to get all my facts in order and be done with and you have to be very patience about it. Number 30 is coming up in 3-5 days from now.
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Post by Hoosier X on Jan 19, 2017 19:58:50 GMT -5
That Detective Comics site is great! I remembered that I've always been intrigued by the cover to Zebra Batman!
So I read it today! It's HILARIOUS!
The villain is Zebra-Man and he's so wonderfully terrible!
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Post by Cheswick on Jan 19, 2017 21:10:04 GMT -5
That Detective Comics site is great! I remembered that I've always been intrigued by the cover to Zebra Batman! So I read it today! It's HILARIOUS! The villain is Zebra-Man and he's so wonderfully terrible! Zebra-Man actually appeared in the recent Batman #14 (single panel), along with several other lesser-known Batman villains. I like that some of Batman's strange and goofy (in a good way) foes still exist in DC's current continuity. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2017 4:53:20 GMT -5
#30, Carmine Falcone First Appearance: Batman #404  Carmine Falcone made his debut in the four-part story Batman: Year One written by Frank Miller and David Mazzucchelli in 1987.  I have a copy of this excellent book done by Frank Miller and David Mazzucchelli and I brought a copy of it waiting for my flight from Los Angeles to Seattle back in 1988 visiting friends in California and I needed something to read on my flight and I read it twice and I find the story one of the best I read. This novel started in Batman 404 was excellent and later on that year around the Fall of 1989 of which I brought the complete set of the four part novel that Frank and David was working on. This is one shot thing and I know everyone here that loves Batman like I do agree that this is one of ground-breaking efforts by Frank and David and this showcases one of the most intriguing characters in Batman's history that highlights the corruptions, the depravity, and moral decay of one man that was the central point of this story Carmine Falcone. He was brutal, keen in his own wicked ways, and most importantly he had several important key figures in his pockets that includes Commissioner Gillian B. Loeb, and Arnold Flass in his deep pockets. Commissioner Loeb was the Police Commissioner at the time of this story unfolds and having said that he was the man that literally ran Gotham City and even had unnamed Mayor under this belt that wasn't reveal in this story alone and it's took the efforts of Lieutenant Gordon and Batman to stop him with some assistance from Catwoman along the way that startles me from the get go. He wanted Batman dead and considering how inept the Police Department at the time of all this unfolding and Batman crashes a dinner party that quickly draws attention to and that was the beginning of his downfall and the rise of James Gordon to Captain of which I believe at the end of the story and Gordon at that time puts the trust in the man behind the cowl of Batman.  This story is well written, beautifully plotted, and most importantly was considered one of the better stories in the mid 80's and I did not read that many Comic Book because I was starting my 21 years career at Boeing as a Computer Specialist working on solving problems that dealt in Automation. Back to the story, what causes his downfall is that an internal investigations revealed that Loeb and other corrupted city officials were arrested and done for and that lead District Attorney Harvey (Later Two Face) Dent with secret assistance from Batman that led Carmine Falcone to flee from the scene and because of that everything falls apart and has to deal with his sister Carla Viti, the head of the Viti crime family in Chicago of which he did not want to get involved with. That's pretty much all I have to say about Carmine Falcone and this story not only it was difficult for Batman to get involved in his first year of Crime Fighting and even had assistance from Catwoman that was shocking as well and the nightmarish problems of getting out of their alive with all the cops that are in the league with Loeb wanted him dead and the unleashing of hundreds and hundreds of Bats from his Batcave to help him escape with an injured leg to boot was beyond a spectacle of his own rights. Man, this story packed with action and suspense like no other story at that time. And, Carmine Falcone was the centerpiece of all that and that's led to his downfall at the end.  Gordon has a friend to deal with the Joker who wanted to poison the Gotham Reservoir ... and a partnership is born!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2017 5:05:34 GMT -5
Some of my favorite panels of Batman Year One   I'm moving onto Number 29 in about 3-4 days from now.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2017 19:55:09 GMT -5
#29, Firefly, Ted Carson/Garfield Lynns  First Appearance: Batman 126  This character is pretty a problematic for me to decide what to do with it. I'm going to try to get this done by next Tuesday at the latest and this is a pretty much an introduction to all of you here. The problem is that in Batman, The Animated Series - there were a Firefly that I hardly knew about and I was stunned by the ferocity of this character see an example of that in the You Tube below. I only know the Ted Carson version slightly better than the Garfield Lynns version; because of that I'm going to try to recap both of them later on and I need additional time to think about it. Sorry, that I did not do much today and wanted to share who is next on my list.
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Post by Nowhere Man on Jan 21, 2017 20:16:29 GMT -5
This is a great thread, Juggernaut. I have a bad habit of reading threads and rarely commenting, but your efforts are appreciated.
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Post by chadwilliam on Jan 21, 2017 23:21:06 GMT -5
I think a big problem with Batman's cast of villains stems from the fact that with Crisis on Infinite Earths, characters who had been around for decades suddenly found that their back stories, appearances, and very origins were now called into question. So in the case of Firefly, you go from
to
with no explanation.
It also probably doesn't help that the Firefly found in Batman 126 from 1959 is a different character entirely from The Firefly who had previously appeared in Detective 184 from 1952. It could be that Bill Finger (who wrote the 1959 story) had never read the 1952 tale (written by Ed Herron), thought the name Firefly would make the basis for a good villain for Batman, and went from there.
Still, for a guy who showed up first in 1952, then in again in 1975, and once more in 1986 he had some great artists working on him on each occasion.
Dick Sprang
Steve Ditko
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2017 2:43:38 GMT -5
chadwilliamYour post here helped me a lot in my understanding of Firefly and with it I'm going to use some of your notes here and work it in on Monday (the latest) and eventually close the door on this character that I find it challenging to write up here in this thread.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jan 22, 2017 9:50:50 GMT -5
Looking at those panels I forgot how great Mazzucchelli's art is. I'm gonna read that again. And that last panel of Jim smoking was someone's avatar for a long time on CBR.
I don't know much on Firefly other than some random modern appearances. Detective Comics #689, 690 were my first afirefly story. I might have a few others but I mostly know him from The Animated Series. And he was one of the few villains I liked from The Batman show.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2017 10:27:13 GMT -5
Regarding Fireflychadwilliam's post and along with Adam Warlock's post puts the problem with Firefly and having said that - I've made a mistake putting him on this list because the only Firefly that I liked is the one in Batman, The Animated Series pictured below and not the one that posted on this thread. I should had focus on Garfield instead.  The one in that Cartoon is one that really matters me the most and I consider him the deadliest because he fought Batman and Batgirl in that Animated Cartoon and also fought Mr. Freeze too and later on fought together to tackle Batman too. This video (below) that I just watched a hour ago cemented my problem with this villain on my list. When Chadwilliam did that post of his earlier on this thread hit me like a ton of bricks and this video reinforces that and having said that I felt the one in the Animated Cartoon is one that really matters to me. For the record, I always hated DC'S Mega Event - The Crisis of Infinite Earths because it's threw me a curveball of the century trying to re-educate myself of all the Heroes and Villains Histories and that alone causes me great discomfort and agony trying to figure out what to do about it. To me, the Pre-Crisis Heroes and Villains are more important to me than any other character because I always felt that Pre-Crisis is the one that everyone here should go by and to be honest with all of you here - I do not know anything about the Pre-Crisis version of Firefly and that alone bothers me a great deal. My next two characters go hand and hand together and they are the last two characters - plus one more (Mr. Freeze) is from the classic cartoon Batman, The Animated Series of which I consider the best Batman Cartoon ever produced and I always enjoy watching it. After those two characters - the rest of the villains will be so much easier for me to explain and I have no problem selecting the right character for this list. In all honesty, Firefly should not be on this list because of the problem of pre-crisis and post-crisis information that I received from Chadwilliam and Adam Warlock is correct the one found in Batman, The Animated Series is the one that I wanted to focus on and the problem with that is that I can't honestly figure out his general appeal to me and can't correctly gauge his interest and focus on my list of characters in my thread. So, Number 27 and Number 28 will be done together and after that - Smooth Sailing from now on.
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