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Post by Rob Allen on Mar 7, 2017 15:14:21 GMT -5
BTW, that version of Daddy's Little Girl by the usually reliable Al Martino was truly awful, but I like this one by the Mills Brothers: Thank you for sharing the barbershop quartet version of that piece of sentimental slop-I think Hey, don't be dissin' the Mills Brothers. There aren't many people who were on the charts from 1931 to 1972. Here's their last #1 hit:
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Mar 7, 2017 16:20:24 GMT -5
Thank you for sharing the barbershop quartet version of that piece of sentimental slop-I think Hey, don't be dissin' the Mills Brothers. There aren't many people who were on the charts from 1931 to 1972. Very true. But I would rather listen to Louie Armstrong throughout those years
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Post by Rob Allen on Mar 7, 2017 19:56:06 GMT -5
Hey, don't be dissin' the Mills Brothers. There aren't many people who were on the charts from 1931 to 1972. Very true. But I would rather listen to Louie Armstrong throughout those years How about both?
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Post by berkley on Mar 7, 2017 22:11:55 GMT -5
Music of the 20s, 30s, and 40s would be a good topic. I have a few favourites (e.g. Mills Brothers, Hoagy Carmichael, Andrews Sisters) but don't know much about it in general and I'm always looking for recommendations. I'd like to expand my knowledge of jazz in particular, but also the more popular stuff.
For example, any of you jazz fans out there recommend any particular albums by:
Louis Armstrong Fats Waller King Oliver Bessie Smith Jellyroll Morton etc
or anyone else you can think of?
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Mar 7, 2017 23:07:26 GMT -5
Music of the 20s, 30s, and 40s would be a good topic. I have a few favourites (e.g. Mills Brothers, Hoagy Carmichael, Andrews Sisters) but don't know much about it in general and I'm always looking for recommendations. I'd like to expand my knowledge of jazz in particular, but also the more popular stuff. For example, any of you jazz fans out there recommend any particular albums by: Louis Armstrong Fats Waller King Oliver Bessie Smith Jellyroll Morton etc or anyone else you can think of? One thing to keep in mind is that when you're dealing with stuff from that time period you're going to be looking at compilations. Because obviously albums weren't a thing at the time. With Armstrong the clear answer is " The Complete Hot Five and Hot Seven Recordings". They were some of the seminal early jazz recordings and established Armstrong as the top instrumental soloist of the time. Waller is harder as there is no definitive recording sessions, so things can be scattered over a number of sessions and a number compilations. If you want to go deep, Sony Legacy's " If You Got to Ask, You Ain't Got It" a three cd set from 2006 is a very good bet. I'm not sure there's a single great collection for Oliver. " Dippermouth Blues: His 25 Greatest Hits" seems like a good overview at least. For Bessie Smith " The Essential Bessie Smith" is a nice two-CD collection. I don't have an answer on Jelly Roll Morton.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Mar 7, 2017 23:34:29 GMT -5
Music of the 20s, 30s, and 40s would be a good topic. I have a few favourites (e.g. Mills Brothers, Hoagy Carmichael, Andrews Sisters) but don't know much about it in general and I'm always looking for recommendations. I'd like to expand my knowledge of jazz in particular, but also the more popular stuff. For example, any of you jazz fans out there recommend any particular albums by: Louis Armstrong Fats Waller King Oliver Bessie Smith Jellyroll Morton etc or anyone else you can think of? Slam's correct about Louie Armstrong's Hot Five and Hot Seven recordings. They as considered essentials for Satchmo's early period I'd also recommend Ken Burn's anthologies. If you can find it in the library, Ken Burns did a huge multi-hour documentary on the history of Jazz for PBS about 15 or so years ago. Then he compiled single disc compilations for maybe 20 different or more notable jazz performers. Each and every one is an excellent entry to that artist's work Slowly, I'm going through the many jazz recording's I've picked up from my libraries. Cannonball Adderly, Artie Shaw, Art Blakely, Art Pepper (lots of Arts in jazz). For modern material I've been listening lately to a band called Bad Plus. Alice Coltrane (daughter of John Coltrane) is quite interesting. Billie Holiday,Miles Davis, Dave Brubeck, Chet Baker,Django Rhinehart,Weather Report..all great stuff. If you like jazz fusion, try anything from guitarist Al DiMeola who continues to keep the faith
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Post by Rob Allen on Mar 8, 2017 12:29:30 GMT -5
I can't name albums, that's not how I listen to music, but I can recommend artists.
In the early days, Armstrong's only rival among cornet players was Bix Beiderbecke, who died in 1931. Armstrong switched to trumpet, but Bix didn't. BTW, "Satchmo" was Armstrong's nickname to the public, but in the jazz world he was called "Pops", because he was the father of the whole field.
The next "#1 trumpet guy" after Armstrong was Roy Eldridge, and then Dizzy Gillespie. And mentioning Dizzy brings to mind his collaborator, saxophonist Charlie Parker. Those two sparked the bebop revolution of the 40s.
Parker came out of the Kansas City scene - others from KC who are worth a listen include Count Basie, Jay McShann and Benny Moten.
Other saxophone giants of that era include Coleman Hawkins, Benny Carter, Sidney Bechet (pioneer of the soprano sax), Lester Young, Ben Webster, Zoot Sims, and Gene Ammons.
For jazz-flavored novelty numbers, check out Cab Calloway and Slim Gaillard, both of whom published "jive dictionaries" to teach mainstream America how to be hip. Or "hep", as they would have said.
Try a few of those and let us know what you think.
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Post by berkley on Mar 9, 2017 0:35:55 GMT -5
Thanks for all the suggestions. I have listened to Bix Beiderbecke a bit - he played with Hoagy Carmichael and is featured prominently on a CD of Carmichael's early stuff that I have. Dizzy Gillespie, if it's the guy I'm thinknig of, I remember when I was a kid because he was still appearing on talk shows and variety shows, though quite an old man by then, of course. Don't know his music, though. Charlie Parker and the bebop era, that's a whole world I know almost nothing about but look forward to exploring.
I've looked around for Louis Armstrong Hot Five and Hot Seven but never see it around anywhere. Might have to order it online.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Mar 9, 2017 14:45:47 GMT -5
Close Encounters Part 2 of 6-Eddie KramerWho is Eddie Kramer? We'll get to that after the set-up In 1975 I had a part-time job working for a new start-up video production company. The boss was a wealthy guy and foresaw the demand for videotape production facilities. Cable TV had just come to Manhattan, public access channels had arrived, new equipment for videotaping and editing were entering the market and he saw a wide open niche for a business. Besides filming and editing commercials or cable shows on videotape, there was beginning to be a demand for videotaping weddings, parties and other private events. The home video market was still a few years away but there were a few early videoplayer machines for home use available and if you were aware of the technology trends you could see what was coming I was pretty much a go-fer for the boss. It was just me and one other person. But it was a great opportunity to learn about camera-work and how to edit. We also wanted to make our own mini-movie on videotape as a demo of what we could do. We decided to shoot a Dracula parody and hired out-of-work actors to play the parts (New York City is full of them). Wrote out a full script, got costumes and props. We wanted to shoot a scene in Central Park with Dracula getting out of his coffin and brushing his teeth at a water fountain. It would be a built-in commercial for Ultra-Bite toothpaste-the toothpaste that makes your fangs pearly white. I was in charge to find and rent a coffin.Which I did and had to carry it with my partner a few city blocks and into Central Park. You have to imagine the stares we got walking around with a coffin through the city Anyhow, one weekend my boss told me we were going to take a trip into Greenwich village to see a sound engineer for tips and advice on sound mixing. We arrived at an unmarked building near Bleecker Street and went up to the 2nd floor. It was a small recording studio. A small office, small kitchen, small lounge, small area behind glass with musical instruments. And one room with this massive sound board and other gadgets. This sound board was as big as a king-size bed with what seemed to be hundreds of toggle switches, dials, meters, levers, buttons-quite intimidating. The place was empty except for it's owner. I was introduced to Eddie Kramer. We only had about hour or so to spend with him. The name didn't ring any bells for me and I basically just kept quite and listened as Eddie spoke about sound recording. At times I lost interest and wandered around and just stared at that mixing board It was much later that I learned who Eddie Kramer was. My God-what a missed opportunity!! Eddie Kramer as a young boy arrived in England from South Africa and was hired by Pye Records to assist i sound recordings. He worked with The Kinks, Petula Clark, The Searchers and others. He soon opened his own studio as well as worked for Regent Studios. Eddie Kramer engineered 2 Beatle songs-"All You Need Is Love" and "Baby You're A Rich Man".He then engineered in 1967 albums for The Rolling Stones, Small Faces, Traffic and ultimately Jimi Hendrix's 1st album Kramer relocated to New York City and became Hendrix's sole producer. Kramer also produced 5 consecutive Led Zeppelin albums beginning with their 2nd, and worked with Johnny Winter. It was Eddie Kramer who attended the Woodstock Festival and recorded the whole thing. Kramer helped build Hendrix's Electric Ladyland Studio in Greenwich Village, produced Carly Simon's 1st album, mixed Humble Pie's live album, and mixed or produced albums for David Bowie, Peter Frampton, Larry Coryell, Dionne Warwick and Curtis Mayfield. Kramer had a long association with Kiss, producing 5 of their albums as well as their solo work. When I met Eddie Kramer he had just resigned from Electric Ladyland Studios and opened his own independent facility. Kramer has gone on to win Grammy's, work for the Jimi Hendrix estate with posthumous albums, worked in all musical genres from Heavy Metal to Jazz. Why this guy is not in the Rock N Roll museum yet is a headscratcher. But he is indisputably an icon behind the scenes. And what a missed opportunity with my not knowing who he was when I met him. Here is the mixing board I saw
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Mar 10, 2017 21:55:50 GMT -5
50 Years Ago-Noteworthy Album Debuts Of March 1967 Aretha Franklin: I Never Loved a Man the Way I Love You (Atlantic) Aretha Franklin didn't emerge fully formed from the head of Jerry Wexler -- she had many minor hits on Columbia before Atlantic made her a goddess. But with its mix of superb new soul songs (Franklin helped write four) and perfect old R&B standards (from Ray Charles, King Curtis, Sam Cooke, Otis Redding), this is a living monument to a singer and the style she first epitomized and then transcended. Wexler wanted the Stax band to ground his great hope but was refused, so he turned to the white guys down the road in Muscle Shoals -- who cut most of the album in New York. Grateful Dead: Grateful Dead (Warner Bros.)One of the year's few supposedly psychedelic LPs that wasn't actually a pop LP (cf Sgt. Pepper, Forever Changes, Mellow Yellow), the already legendary San Francisco band-collective's debut stood out and stands tall because its boogieing folk rock epitomizes the San Francisco ballroom ethos -- blues-based tunes played by musicians who came to rhythm late, expanded so they were equally suitable for dancing and for tripping out. It's also the only studio album that respects the impact of Ron "Pigpen" McKernan, who died in 1973 of cirrhosis of the liver. McKernan's organ is almost as pervasive as Jerry Garcia's guitar. And although Garcia and Bob Weir both take vocal leads, their singing styles are still in Pigpen's white-blues thrall. The Velvet Underground: The Velvet Underground & Nico (Verve)The hippies and the marketplace both passed on this NYC classic, which proved as prophetic stylistically as Sgt. Pepper was conceptually. Its flat beats, atonal noise, bluesless singing, "urban decadent" subject matter and bummer vibe proved the wellspring of punk -- which, culturally if not stylistically, leads directly to the entire alt-rock subculture. Great songs here include the disillusioned "Sunday Morning" and "There She Goes Again" and the jonesing "Heroin" and "I'm Waiting for the Man." "Venus in Furs" and "The Black Angel's Death Song" remain subcultural in a rather specialized way.
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Post by berkley on Mar 10, 2017 22:55:48 GMT -5
Eddie Kramer, recognised the name but couldn't remember who he was until I read the story. yes, fully deserving of a place in the Hall of Fame.
Have never listened much to the Dead. That Morning Dew track doesn't sound bad, a bit different from the other things I've heard from them. I usually find them pleasant enough, though a little dull and repetitive, but haven't really listened to them enough to give them a chance.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Mar 11, 2017 2:49:02 GMT -5
At some point in your life there must have been a song that deeply affected your soul, when heard on the radio you demanded silence so to contemplate its message. Something like this guy who used to date Elaine on Seinfeld
This song I took very seriously in 1969
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Post by Confessor on Mar 11, 2017 10:26:11 GMT -5
^^ There are literally hundreds of songs that have profoundly effected me in my life and, as a result, have become deeply personal to me. Far too many to list here. In fact, there are whole albums that have, without exaggeration, changed the way I see the world.
This is partly the reason why I wrote "music" in the section marked Religion in the last UK census; it wasn't a silly or flippant answer -- I meant it. For me, music provides all the spiritual and intellectual fulfillment, as well as the comfort and emotional succor, that religion should, but unfortunately doesn't.
Edit: BTW, I love the first Grateful Dead and Velvet Underground albums. Both absolute stone classic records.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Mar 11, 2017 15:12:53 GMT -5
50 Years Ago-Music News March 1967
As usual back in the day, The Beatles made the best news.
On this day, March 11, The Beatles premiered their new music video on Dick Clarke's American Bandstand show with their 2 latest songs, Penny Lane and Strawberry Fields Forever (and yes, The Beatles were also pioneers in creating music videos long before MTV). On March 30th, The Beatles went to the Chelsea Manor Studios to pose with a photographic collage and figures from Madame Tussaud's Wax Museum . The resulting photos were used for the album cover of Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
On March 3, Eric Burdon and the Animals refuse to get on stage without payment in advance for a show in Ottowa, Canada. The audience of 3,000 people start a riot causing $5,000 worth of damages
The Buffalo Springfield re-release their 1st album from late 1966 so as to include their hit single For What It's Worth. The song Baby Don't Scold Me was dropped and the original version of the album is now a collector's item
March 25-The Who perform their first U.S. concert in New York
March 31-The Walker Brothers kick off their new concert tour in London. Also on the bill was Cat Stevens and Englebert Humperdinck. The opening act was little-known session guitar player Jimi Hendrix. To draw attention Jimi, for the first time, lights his guitar on fire. He is hospitalized that night with burns on his hands
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Post by Phil Maurice on Mar 11, 2017 17:30:19 GMT -5
The opening act was little-known session guitar player Jimi Hendrix. To draw attention Jimi, for the first time, lights his guitar on fire. He is hospitalized that night with burns on his hands Hah! What an idiot! It's not enough that his misspellings of "Jimmy" and "Hendricks" make Dan Quayle look like an Oxford scholar, he has to go and do a Richard Pryor on his first major gig! Let me guess, this clown was never heard from again, right? Hey "Jimi," leave the pyrotechnics to Arthur Brown, okay?
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